monday
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Post by monday on Dec 19, 2014 22:26:18 GMT
Slow going on some of these installs. But here is the pole mounted:
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Post by weinie on Dec 20, 2014 23:04:56 GMT
Carbon Seldon pole - as for length, I'll ask the dealer for you. How come you guys are opting for a pole vs the factory bowsprit option? Anyone get a phrf rating yet?
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monday
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Post by monday on Dec 21, 2014 0:19:25 GMT
A couple of thoughts on pole vs factory. [which may or may not prove to be valid]
1] My dealer thought the factory setup looked a bit "unfinished" Can't truly comment as I did not see it.
2] My hope was to get more length. Not sure I succeeded and since I do not know the factory option length. If someone can get that number [stem fitting to tack line exit] - we can compare.
3] Cheaper.
4] I think it will be easier to attach the top down furler drum to to a retractable pole. My understanding is that it needs to be securely shackled to the pole - so with this setup that can be accomplished without walking the plank.
5] Not an issue for me and my moorage but you save a foot or two - meh.
Thinking of getting a rating - but I would also love to know if someone else has.
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Post by hoppy on Dec 21, 2014 13:57:02 GMT
A couple of thoughts on pole vs factory. [which may or may not prove to be valid] 1] My dealer thought the factory setup looked a bit "unfinished" Can't truly comment as I did not see it. 2] My hope was to get more length. Not sure I succeeded and since I do not know the factory option length. If someone can get that number [stem fitting to tack line exit] - we can compare. 3] Cheaper. 4] I think it will be easier to attach the top down furler drum to to a retractable pole. My understanding is that it needs to be securely shackled to the pole - so with this setup that can be accomplished without walking the plank. 5] Not an issue for me and my moorage but you save a foot or two - meh. Thinking of getting a rating - but I would also love to know if someone else has. I have the selden on my SO40 and use it with a "code 1" on a furler. I have a line running through pole that I attach the roller through. It makes life easier when raising and dropping the sail than if it was fixed on the end of the pole. If you do try to used the fixed point on the pole, don't make the same stupid mistake I made first time. I put the pin on a U shackle through the pole fitting and sure enough the side forces broke the shackle.
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Post by hoppy on Dec 21, 2014 14:06:44 GMT
Slow going on some of these installs. But here is the pole mounted: BTW did you read the Selden instructions for how much pole beyond the mount you should have for you boats size and the poles diameter? I have about only 1/3 of the length beyond the the mount. I know I was very conservative with my mounting well within the limits set by selden.
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monday
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Post by monday on Dec 22, 2014 17:54:03 GMT
All of my asymmetric experience is on dinghies so I am new to this top down furler thing. Does the tack have to be securely fastened? If not, it would make things easier. As far as "unsupported length" goes I might be pushing things - I guess we'll see. FWIW the pole I have on there is the 75 mm 7 foot 3 inch model. It has 35" unsupported which is within spec for a 11464 lbs displacement boat. . The Selden rep apparently said fudging a couple of inches is acceptable. This is also the size they spec'ed for the boat. The dealer had several folks from Selden check out the boat at the Annapolis show.
The next size up is definitely a beefier piece to move around. I had originally thought that the dealer would mount it at an angle like Hoppy's. If that is done the clearance between the stem fitting and the stanchion would go way down [if one used the bigger pole]. Mounting it like they did the bigger size would fit quite readily.
Going to the next size up won't gain much length [2 inch] but it would put one more inside of the unsupported length rec.
I do hope that I will be okay as I am going with a 180.
For reference here is the Selden spec page: content.westmarine.com/documents/pdfs/GBS%202012.pdf
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Post by J349er on Dec 22, 2014 20:56:55 GMT
A couple of thoughts on pole vs factory. [which may or may not prove to be valid] snip... Thinking of getting a rating - but I would also love to know if someone else has.... snip. We got a rating for our 349, you can download it from the DOCS page on my 349 Owners Web Site. This is with the factory bowsprit, performance sails and 75m2 asymmetrical spinnaker on a Selden top down furler. Cheers, T.
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Post by J349er on Dec 22, 2014 21:08:16 GMT
And below is a top view of Jeanneau's factory bowsprit. Looks pretty well finished to me and doesn't interfere with the anchor locker. but you definitely have more reach with your setup. I have my asymmetrical on a Selden GX topdown furler and aside from a dealer lousy installation which was later fixed, it's working great. For those interested, I have drawing for a custom cut 75m2 asymmetrical sail made for that setup.
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monday
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Post by monday on Dec 22, 2014 21:42:41 GMT
To be honest the factory sprit has grown on me - still yet to see it in person. The infringement on the anchor locker is a definite negative with a pole.
Also is the link for the phrf cert working on the new site?
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Post by weinie on Dec 22, 2014 22:03:13 GMT
Think you have the wrong file linked on your web site.
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Post by J349er on Dec 22, 2014 23:49:38 GMT
Ooops... I just fixed it. You may have to refresh the page on your browser but now the links to the PHRF certification works. Don't forget to join in the Jeanneau349.com forum Cheers. Thierry
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Post by singoviv on Jan 28, 2015 0:27:23 GMT
amj - congratulations, my lift keel SO349 arrives in Australia today - hull 108. Love to see your pics and compare notes - singoviv@gmail.com
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 28, 2015 17:23:16 GMT
Well hull #90 finally arrived to her new home on lake windermere, UK. Currently being commissioned, lift keel version with performance pack, and what a keel that is, nice keel mech inspection window under table shows a substantially engineered hydraulic ram and linkage system !. Should be fun !. For some reason I cant add any photos, progress bar just hangs there appearing to upload ?. Congratulations on the new boat - she looks fantastic Is Windermere just shallow at the edges ? that is an impressive keel when in the down position. I see you have managed to upload some photos OK now - but if you want to add more than one image to a post you can follow the instructions at: jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/8029/revised-guidance-photo-uploads-forumYou can also easily upload images on our gallery at: jeanneau-owners.com/photogallery.htmlEnjoy the new boat
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amj
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Post by amj on Jan 28, 2015 18:00:29 GMT
Thanks Malcolm,
Yes quite a substantial keel, lake itself is not to bad, one or two of the parts of the shore can be shallow, but in general they are well known. There are a few other deep keel boats which race there currently, a First 30, A SunFast 32, and a 35s5, we are just a bit deeper than those. main problem is berthing in the marinas which are shallow, ours is just on the limit for our marina drawing 4'6" with keel up.
Most designers have been going for a lift keel/keel box arrangement on their new designs, which does impact on performance, our previous boat a lift keel firs beneteau 25.7 was perfect for the lake, but just not quite big enough for staying on board every weekend, hence when the lift keel J349 came along it fits the bill perfectly.
Thanks,
amj
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Post by J349er on Feb 7, 2015 16:22:53 GMT
And push button actuated, she is a real luxury yacht!
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Post by singoviv on Feb 9, 2015 6:49:39 GMT
Hull 108 - lift keel in the water in Australia. Hope to get handover this weekend. PBS have been a pleasure to deal with and have done a fantastic job with the commissioning.
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Post by singoviv on Feb 9, 2015 6:52:05 GMT
And a shot of 108 with the keel down just before launch last week.
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rksailsolo
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It is ours! What a great day.
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Jeanneau Model: 2015 349 Hull #53
Yacht Name: TBD
Home Port: Hudson, WI
Country: US
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Post by rksailsolo on Nov 3, 2015 12:42:11 GMT
New forum member here... AND new 349 owner!!!! Looking forward to hearing what others are up to with this model. Mine is in the water. Hull #34 I believe. We fitted the dodger today. We'll be adding some rigging next week. She'll have a 180 asymetrical on her with a top-down furler. I fell in love early with this boat since she reminds me too much of an I14 [which is how I misspent many younger years]. I'm excited but still reeling from having spent more on a boat than I did on my house [in downtown Seattle]. Any PNW members out there feel free to ping me if you want to go sailing. Cheers- David Seattle, WA
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Post by j24sailor on Nov 20, 2015 6:14:39 GMT
Nice little beast indeed... I like the shaft drive simplicity, I don't think there are any performance or mechanical drawbacks. The large hatches for the aft cabins under the cockpit benches are great for ventilation but they seem to take valuable space that could have been use for cockpit storage bins. Engine is 21HP, may be a bit under powered when comparing to Beneteau's Oceanis 34 which has a 29HP Yanmar. Aside from the cool factor, I am questioning the real necessity to have a dual helm on this boat size. It definitely adds complication to the steering system and nav instruments need to be mirrored to both sides. The freeboard seems to sit very high above the water line which may increase windage and make maneuvering in tight marinas under strong winds a bit harder. Interior design looks stunning, nice head and interesting version with a single berth/storage room aft cabin. The base 349 seems to be priced competitively but must have options can inflate the price pretty quickly. My first thought is how high this boat is riding in the water compared to our boat, once we put all the booze on board. If the owners are anything like us your concern about the freeboard will be much less after the loading of the wine.
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