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Post by moonshadow on Sept 9, 2021 22:06:26 GMT
Hi again. I’ve been trying to lower the headliner in my galley area to fix the sagging parts. I can see how they are interlinked at seams but I can’t figure out how to start the removal. Unlike the cabins none of the headliner in my galley/salon area is screwed in. Anybody know where to start? Paul. 2014 SO469
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Post by Evening Star on Sept 11, 2021 18:06:16 GMT
I have the same headliner beginning to sag and took a quick look. No apparent answer on this. I tried by working out from the mast post insert but the panels there seem to be interlocked. Also tried by working from outboard to inboard. It have not tried hard enough to break the seal on the interlocking Velcro to know if that is the way or not. Would love to learn the trick.
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Post by moonshadow on Sept 11, 2021 20:28:37 GMT
My outboard edges abut the window shades. I think removing that will be my next place to try.
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Post by virtualburton on Sept 12, 2021 3:22:49 GMT
please keep us posted as you figure this out - I'm curious too!
Thanks guys, David
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Post by virtualburton on Dec 3, 2021 18:34:30 GMT
Hi guys - has anyone figured this out? I'm looking to add some insulation above the headliner and need to drop it also.
Thanks! David
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kelowa
Junior Member
Posts: 11
Jeanneau Model: SunFast 37
Yacht Name: KELOWA
Home Port: Barcelona (RCMB)
Country: Spain
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Post by kelowa on Dec 3, 2021 19:03:29 GMT
On my SunFast 37 the outer pannels (closer to the hull) are fixed with velcro. Can be removed just pulling out the outer side. Then, you will have access to the next one, fixed with screws to the deck.
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Post by virtualburton on Dec 4, 2021 1:49:26 GMT
SOLVED! Thanks to kelowa I decided to try to see if my SO469 was velcro also. I scared the nuts out of myself when I pulled and pulled and it seemed really form then all of a sudden went "POP!". I thought I had ripped a screw out, it was that form. I was able to get my camera in there to peek around and I found it is indeed some kind of super industrial velcro recessed into pockets. If you pull evenly it will eventually pop then the others are easier. I did not however to get it to re-attach you have to press the decliner up and fund it with your fist. Pushing alone will not do it. please understand - I am NOT telling you to do this nor am I responsible if your boat is different. All I can say is on my 2013 Sun Odyssey 469 this is how MY headliner is held on. Here's a couple of screenshots from the little video I took: Sorry the bottom one is no good, but I included it because it shows the top velcro also. Hope this helps someone along the way. Cheers, David
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Post by virtualburton on Dec 4, 2021 18:31:15 GMT
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Post by sailingabe41ds on Dec 4, 2021 22:23:23 GMT
Not all headiners alike. My 2015 jeannea41ds headliners are plywood covered with material and some are fixed molding. You take screws off on one side but the other ends are interwooven with the next piece of plywood in a wave like p wood pattern lock and key. Do not pull and assume there is velcro...no velcro. Have fun.. abe
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Post by virtualburton on Dec 4, 2021 23:56:14 GMT
Exactly! And that's why I said please understand - I am NOT telling you to do this nor am I responsible if your boat is different. All I can say is on my 2013 Sun Odyssey 469 this is how MY headliner is held on. David
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Post by moonshadow on Dec 9, 2021 11:31:40 GMT
Thanks for all these tips and results. I wish they used a standard method. I’m beginning to wonder if they started with the 3M stuff and when they had difficulty securing things they just added screws. I think I will take a look with my little flexible camera and see how mine was attached.
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Post by virtualburton on Jan 18, 2022 2:55:19 GMT
Hi guys - quick update - the AFT ceiling panel on the starboard side, the one behind the one I took photos of above does NOT come out this way... If you are say, adding 2 more LED lights in your galley so you're not cooking in your shadow, it may pull a screw through the panel if you just yank it down. Ask me how I know... As I said before, be careful, your boat may be different. David
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bccoast
Full Member
Posts: 35
Jeanneau Model: 2013 SO409
Country: Canada
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Post by bccoast on Jan 18, 2022 16:05:09 GMT
on my 409, the headliner was sagging in spots. I was able to see that the velcro was unglued. I pulled a couple of the panels down and on the shortsides, had a wave wood tab that held it in and velcro on the long edges. Mine was the dual lock style as well. I bought a 10' roll and works great.
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Serenade (Sean R)
Junior Member
Posts: 13
Jeanneau Model: Sun Odyssey 469
Yacht Name: Serenade
Home Port: Bristol, RI
Country: USA
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Post by Serenade (Sean R) on Apr 21, 2024 12:29:47 GMT
So I just pulled all the headliner down in my 469. Here is what I found:
1. Start along the wall/ceiling joint, just above fixed ports. 2. Remove the curtains (3 small screws). Under the curtains, you will see a wood strip with screws protruding from the headliner. Remove the screws. 3. Gently lower the outer edge of the headliner...The outer most panel will then drop down. 4. You will then see the wave pattern wood tabs exposed for the next headliner panel. Some have screws holding them up. Unscrew them...but be careful of the lights and switches. You can detach the wires from the lights on the backside (spade connectors), but the power wire for the on/off switch must be unscrewed. This is easier with 2 people...one to hold up the panel, one to remove the wires. Don't worry...once you have the panel down, you can remove the lights and switches, and you can re-attach the lights and switches from the cabin side once the headliner is put back up. 5. Continue from the edge of the cabin top towards the center until you have reached the area of interest.
I was pulling them down to replace the Dometic screens/light shades. I found that some of the wood tabs had come unglued from the headliner, causing sagging. A bit of G-Flex epoxy and it was good as new...
Sorry I don't have any pics...I was on a tight time schedule.
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Post by moonshadow on Nov 3, 2024 12:45:55 GMT
Mine was basically secured as described above. It does seem that each boat is different and it takes time to work through all the screws etc that were placed. In my boat even port and starboard sides are different. I was able to do it alone but it took creativity to get it done.
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