Jeanneau Arcadia - Remove pin from top block of rudder?

[gato]

Dear fellow members,
After 2 miserable days trying to remove the rudder, I hope someone with knowledge helps me to advance with this project.


The boat is a Jeanneau Arcadia 30, equipped with a tiller. The tiller connects to a brass / bronze block (I thought it was wood). The block is also connected to the rudder stock with a pin. This is the one giving a good fight. By hammering, I managed to slide it some 5 mm, but then it gets stuck. Taking dimensions, the pin seems slightly conical, and this adds to the mystery, since after moving a bit, it should be quite easy to extract it.

I’m afraid to hit it too hard and break something.

I've got several answers on Facebook but was wondering if anyone here with a similar boat did go through the same or is familiar with this configuration. Any thing I'm doing wrong?

Here in Norway we have unusual warm January. I must take advantage of it now before the real Winter comes back. And this boat must go to the water on April  . This is the time I need to manufacture a new rudder.

Thanks in advance.


For some reason, I'm unable to attach photos here (my bad), but I did in the Jeanneau Owners Group on Facebook:
www.facebook.com/groups/jeanneauowners/permalink/2360047107429869/?notif_id=1578851392982762&notif_t=group_post_approved

[MalcolmP]

Hi Gato again

Can't answer your question on the rudder pin, but hopefully Marty will.

Regarding photos because this a free forum we can't simply load photos, but there is quite a simple workaround by using an external hosting site

This thread explains how to do it

jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/6004/easier-photo-upload-threads

[gato]

Hi Malcolm,
Thanks a lot. I've been trying again yesterday evening with heat and a puller, without success. Conditions were bad: Night, cold, nearly raining. An advice from Marty is greatly appreciated. I know he is the Arcadia specialist.

The rudder is almost out. As far I can see, it just the pin and to dislodge the shaft from block.

[MartyB]

I'd love to answer said question, but I personally have not had to pull the rudder......knock knock yet!

There have been some really good answers on the FB site from those that have pulled rudders,that I will assume are similarly installed etc.

Marty

[gato]

Thanks Marty. And in reality it is not a Arcadia specific question, it is rather "how do I remove a taper pin".

I'll try again this weekend, with new set of tools!

[gato]

Dear Marty and Malcolm,
It is done. Quite a bit of work, mostly persistence and plenty of penetrating oil allowed to finally remove the pin and lower the rudder.
Thanks a lot for the help.

If ever any of you or any member of the group crosses similar problem, I'll be able to give some advice.

Next step is to lift the boat, take the rudder out and decide the course of action... Probably new rudder.

[MalcolmP]

Jan 18, 2020 18:18:36 GMT gato said:

Dear Marty and Malcolm,
It is done. Quite a bit of work, mostly persistence and plenty of penetrating oil allowed to finally remove the pin and lower the rudder.
Thanks a lot for the help.

If ever any of you or any member of the group crosses similar problem, I'll be able to give some advice.

Next step is to lift the boat, take the rudder out and decide the course of action... Probably new rudder.

Well done, glad you have the first part of problem solved. Did you take any photos by chance?

[gato]

Yes, I have plenty of pictures.
To be sincere, it is a very simple system. The problem was my lack of skill removing a tapered pin. I still don't understand how it could be wedged so tightly.

But if you think it may be useful for others, I'm more than glad to make them available with a short explanation of the removal.

By the way, now that it is out, I can see that the rudder is in much worst condition than expected. So, new it is! And the first offer was 3 times my annual budget for repairs and upgrades. I'm seriously considering making one myself.

[MalcolmP]

Jan 22, 2020 22:33:54 GMT gato said:

Yes, I have plenty of pictures.
To be sincere, it is a very simple system. The problem was my lack of skill removing a tapered pin. I still don't understand how it could be wedged so tightly.

But if you think it may be useful for others, I'm more than glad to make them available with a short explanation of the removal.

By the way, now that it is out, I can see that the rudder is in much worst condition than expected. So, new it is! And the first offer was 3 times my annual budget for repairs and upgrades. I'm seriously considering making one myself.

Could be rewarding making your own in any case. I can add photos and create a hints and tips article for you for future reference. 

Cheers Malcolm

[gato]

Hi Malcolm,
I just sent you an e-mail with step-by-step instructions on how to change the rudder. I hope it helps others.
Thanks for all.

[MalcolmP]

Apr 7, 2020 17:32:17 GMT gato said:

Hi Malcolm,
I just sent you an e-mail with step-by-step instructions on how to change the rudder. I hope it helps others.
Thanks for all.

Now published in Hints and Tips, thanks for sharing

www.jeanneau-owners.com/hintsandtips/arcadiarudder.html