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Post by simonthepom on Sept 27, 2016 23:42:29 GMT
I'm in the process of ordering a new genoa for our SO 45.1. Our furler (Goiot) is located below deck in the anchor locker which means our current genoa foot sits very close to the deck (when close hauled), but for downwind sailing, not so good... lots of chafe on the pulpit (please don't judge my dodgy repair...) So, I'm thinking of ordering the sail with a shorter luff and using a tack pendant. Just interested if anyone has done this and if you recommend I go down this path. I'm crossing the pacific next year, so lots more DW sailing in the foreseeable future. Here's the current setup  |
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Post by rene460 on Sept 28, 2016 9:57:57 GMT
Hi Simon,
We specified a shorter luff for our new jib for reasons very similar to what you have described. The sail now sets well with no interference with the rail. The sail maker also raised the clew a bit so that easing the sail when we head a little lower does not require moving the job cars. Of course if you have towable cars this is less of an issue. We use a lashing for the pendant, and also bind the top of the pendant to the furler tube to ease the foot tension on the track near the tack. Main thing is to ensure that the head of the sail is the correct distance below the top swivel. The only disadvantage I see is a loss of some sail area which we notice as we mostly sail in light conditions. No issues for stronger conditions.
Our furler is above deck and so the area loss is less than for your below deck furler, but the luff of our little boat is so much shorter than yours it is probably a similar proportion. If you set a code 0 or code 1 from a furler on your bowsprit for light wind days, I suspect that you will not have a problem, but of course you would then use that sail for reaching and would not want to sacrifice the efficiency of the deck sweeping Genoa.
Rene460
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Post by jdl01 on Sept 28, 2016 16:27:36 GMT
Hi Simon,
I use a looped length of coated lifeline with swaged loops on the ends attached to the tack shackle to raise my sail approx. 8 inches. It has worked well for 5 years.
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Post by vasko on Sept 28, 2016 17:17:49 GMT
hmmm my view is little bit different - the sail need to be either out or in - if it is over the railing then it is wrongly set and need adjustment...
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Post by hoppy on Sept 29, 2016 0:50:32 GMT
So, I'm thinking of ordering the sail with a shorter luff and using a tack pendant. On it's own, that's a bad move...... When I fitted a new Harken roller, it's tack was 20cm closer to the deck. I wanted to keep the sail at the same height (luckily I did because this year I discovered that lowering it the 20cm later caused problems with the halyard catching on the roller) so I added 20cm of dynema to connect the tack to the roller. The problem with this is that the tack on the sail is not fixed to anything and therefore when sheeting in close hauled, the sails tack is pulled away from the roller unit changing the angle that the sail enters the roller track and damages the sail. I found the problem after a few days and wrapped some dynema line around the roller trough the tack point on the sail to keep it in close. If you are getting a new sail made, talk to the sail maker about the problem. They might cut the foot so that the sail raises up to create more clearance and/or add sacrificial material that will chafe protecting the sail |
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Post by simonthepom on Sept 30, 2016 23:58:59 GMT
Thanks for the replies guys.
Hoppy, you make a good point; I've discussed with sailmaker and have decided to have the luff tape go all the way down to the the tack, hopefully avoid the issue you described.
Vasko, what are you talking about?? When the sail is poled out, the foot of the sail near the tack has to go over the pulpit, or have you invented a way for that not to happen? I'm all ears...
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Post by vasko on Oct 1, 2016 2:23:57 GMT
my boat is a lot smaller then yours and things may be different but take a look at the picture - this is with whisker pole - without it actually the sail goes more forward - the basic idea is the sail to go over the anchor not over the pulpit...  |
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Post by MartyB on Oct 1, 2016 3:32:59 GMT
"IF" one has a pulpit as Vasco has, what he describes works. If not......Then even poled out the foot is rubbing hitting the pulpit.
Some of this can be avoided to a degree, but taking the forward section of lifelines, and not connecting them to the pulpit, but heading them downward to the deck, This opens up the area behind the pulpit so the foot can be smoother going outward.
Also as mentioned, making the clew higher than a groundsweeper per say, ie maybe closer to the height of the lifelines, helps alleviate some of the issue you describe too.
Marty
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