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Post by medsailor on Sept 10, 2007 6:21:07 GMT
Hello,
I am considering to buy a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 34.2, 1998 model. I am concerned about the fact that this model has only two winches and would like to know how easy and functional is to use just those two. All those of you that have used this model have you ever consider this to be a big disadvantage comparing to other yachts or you don’t really consider it as a particular problem?
Is it possible to install any more winches but definitely a change ‘approved’ by the Jeanneau factory that will not change the safety or sailing features of the yacht?
In the model that does not have hatches on the roof next to the winches, will it be possible to install additional winches right next to them (typical on Hunter yachts!)?
Looking forward to receive your comments.
Thank you.
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Post by michel on Sept 10, 2007 13:31:00 GMT
Hi,
I had a SO 34.2. If you use this boat in cruising, 2 winches are not a problem. You must use correctly the cleat. She's not a race boat, so you have time to go about.
But attention, my boat had a short draft, and more 15knots of wind, she's rounding up.
Michel
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Post by MalcolmP on Sept 10, 2007 19:48:29 GMT
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Post by so40gtb on Sept 12, 2007 4:08:06 GMT
We acquired our '01 SO34.2 in April and have logged approx. 30 sailings so far this season. We were very skeptical of sailing with only two winches, at first, as every boat larger than a daysailer that we've handled has had 4 or more. My wife remains somewhat skeptical, but without a reasoned explanation.  Two Beneteau Oceanis 351s at our marina have the dual mainsheets fitted to facilitate handling with only two cabintop winches. Their owners are very pleased with this configuration. I will do this over the winter on our boat, as it is likely to make things more convenient. The only handling issue that we have experienced with two winches is reefing the jib under load on a starboard tack. To do this, I must use the cam on the port turning block to hold the port jib sheet while I release it from the winch, cross it over to the starboard winch and release the cam, wind the reefing line about the port winch, and then winch in the reefing line while maintaining some sheet tension via friction on the starboard winch. Moving the reefing line to the starboard side of the boat would merely transfer this issue to port tacks. It's not a problem once you have your technique established. Last weekend marked my first experience single-handing the SO34.2, in 10-17 kt wind and waves to 1.3 m or so. I had opined more than once that the boat would be difficult to solo because of the winch locations. With Autohelm installed and used strategically, the winch count and location didn't seem to be any more of a problem than they are double-handed. Even when tacking! I looked into adding a winch or two on the cabintop, outward of the current winches. This would require custom-machined plastic cants to raise the inner edges of the jib sheet turning blocks so that the sheet would remain parallel to the sheave on its way to the close-by added winch, which, ideally, should also rest on canted base. I decided to revisit the mattter after another season of sailing with two winches, especially since canvas projects alone will use up the entire 2008 capital projects budget. Replacing that awful Amiot traveler during winter lay-up is a much higher priority than winch expansion for me. Like Michel, we have the shoal draft configuration, but would say that the tendency to round up is above 18 to 20 kt of wind. Dropping the traveler and/or reefing lessen the problem, as one would expect. Thank you, Malcom, for posting the links! -- Karl |
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Post by MalcolmP on Sept 12, 2007 18:14:01 GMT
Replacing that awful Amiot traveler during winter lay-up is a much higher priority than winch expansion for me. Hi Karl I have the traveller on my to-do list as well. Probably will go with Harken, I would like to make it wider as well so thinking about some custom stainless to support the outboard ends, not sure about how to bring the pennants back into the cockpit though, would need to either modify the sprayhood/dodger, or perhaps take them forward to turning blocks then back along the coachroof Have you any ideas how you would implement? Malcolm |
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Post by MartyB on Sept 13, 2007 0:57:46 GMT
I installed this Harken upwind traveller three weeks ago....last weekend in August. So far in three sails out, a lot nicer than the original Goiot from 1985! lets see if this works for a link or pic......  link works, unfortunetly, when I uploaded pic to imageshack, the port became the starboard, and starboard - port!GRRRR...... now to see if I can do an actual pic here........... marty |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2007 9:54:39 GMT
We got our 02 34.2 last November having sailed race boats all of my life I was not sure about the winch system only having 2 of them.
I have now covered almost 400 miles this season cruising and a large amount of that has been short/ single handed, we have also been out when we had 35 knots over the deck with full main & head sail no problem at all with the boat ( Deep Finn )
Having said that we use reaching lines when reaching on the boat instead if the jib sheet this puts an extra knot on the speed as the sail can exhaust even better.
We have also got a spinnie on her that came off a Hustler 33 but its very big and light so we only use it under 12 knots.
I will look to change the main sheet system so it has a clutch on both sides but do not see any reason to add any extra winch to her.
We have done a couple of Fun races at our club always in the bottom 3/4 boats but that does matter.
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Post by MartyB on Sept 18, 2007 0:22:33 GMT
Malcolm,
A Cal boat I race against, had a cabin top mounted traveller as you have, then mounted a traveller where mine is in the cockpit. He did not have the flat area I did, but put some wood wedges on the cocpit seat to level the track, and put a 1"W by 2" deep wood cross piece then the track on top. The taller Harken track I used, supposidly is strong enough to go across a seat area with out support vs the lower hight track as most will use. I used the tall track, only because it does not have bolts that go thru the track at Xinch or cm intervals. It uses a track on the bottom with flat plates with bolts thru it, such that I could line the bolts up with original holes that are now non standerd spacings vs todays tracks.
I am sure something equal could be done if you want to leave the track cabin top mounted, or move it to the cockpit.
Marty
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