orion
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Post by orion on Aug 12, 2013 12:55:29 GMT
I plan putting an extra winch on my SO 32i coach roof, starboard side, and move the first reef line to the same side. I have three enquirys:-
(1) Can someone tell me the thickness of the roof so that I can calculate the length of SS bolts required? (2) The SO32 manual show 'Reef eyes' on the mast which at present are not being used. I assume this is an error and the reef lines should run through these eyes before heading to the cockpit via the block at the base of the mast. Any thoughts? (3) There's a small square of timber glued to the under side of the roof where one expects the bolts to come through, obviously there since first day, anybody know what I will find when this timber is removed?
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Post by orion on Sept 16, 2013 16:18:15 GMT
I got no reply to this tread I put up in August so in case anybody was waiting on answers to my enquiries I can now let you know what I found
(1) With regard the thickness of the coachroof it turned out to be approx 20mm. (2) I rerouted the 'Reef Line 1' to the starboard and through the reef eye on the mast however when I had to reef up subsequently I found that the lower reefing block on the sail was being dragged towards the mast at about 6 inches above the boom goose-neck and did not appear correct. I found the sail reefed better without using the reef eye on the mast. (3) There was absolutely nothing behind the square of timber. I did find a loose strip of Velcro (approx 4 inches) with its adhesive tape still in place which I suspect should have been taped to the timber to hold up the 'headliner'
I found that putting the new winch on the starboard side and transferring the 'Reef 1' line allows me to reef up much easier, so the project was a success.
ORION
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Post by tedp on Sept 16, 2013 17:09:42 GMT
I must have missed this post due to my holiday period. I own a 2004 SO32 which I think has a different deck mould. On my boat, an extra winch has been fitted and various lines have been moved to the starboard side by the previous owner: the mainsheet, 1st reef, topping lift, the tack line for the asymmetric spi, the mainsail outhaul etc., all with their own stoppers.
The ease of handling must have improved considerably.
I think the 20mm roof is very similar to the roof of my boat, although probably the core material is different. I fitted a mainsheet traveller rail and extra blocks and stoppers to the roof and the material was about that thickness.
I have experienced trouble with headliner adhesion. The block of wood you refer to may well be a filler piece intended to fit the headliner to.
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Post by orion on Sept 16, 2013 21:35:24 GMT
Hi tedp
I too routed the outhaul back to the cockpit on the starboard side. I would be interested to hear about the mainsheet traveller rail you fitted. Was it a success?
I think your right about the block of wood.
ORION
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Post by tedp on Sept 17, 2013 21:35:23 GMT
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Post by MartyB on Sept 18, 2013 5:09:36 GMT
How about two winches, one triple, two double and a single clutch. so 8 clutches in all! ALL on the starboard side no less. Triple is reef one left, middle outhaul, right is reef 2. Then continuing left to right, spin boom lift, spin halyard, jib halyard and main boom lift, extra is for 110 and smaller sheets. I am hoping to replace the outer winch with a larger one, in the 24-32 range, outer to inner on this side. Outer is a 2 sp 16, inner a single 14. Left current has a 2 sp 15. That would go to inside, then larger outside. Outside would handle spin lines, or small jib lines, inners the rest of the network of lines to handle things. My roof from 85 is about an inch or 2-3 cm thick last I drilled thru it etc. There is also thru out the cabin top, plywood or equal, many times where screws that hold the inside liner on hold here. I do have what I think is balsa for a core, so some screws go into this to hold also. Marty
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Post by orion on Sept 19, 2013 15:36:25 GMT
Hi MartyB
I am totally impressed. You are certainly living up to your title of Jeanneau Guru. The reason I asked about the traveller is that I am having too many round ups also.
I will certain look at this as a project for the winter. I am right in thinking that I will still have the old mainsheet along with extra controls for the track?
The other project would be a folding prop, I will start a new tread on that, no doubt there's a wealth of information out there on that.
Any idea of the total cost of items from Harken?
On a side note regarding the original tread, I noticed on the Harken Web site that the reef eye on the mast is used when you have dual line reefing. I have single line so it looks like I may have been correct not to use it.
Again well done on the traveller job.
Regards
ORION
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Post by orion on Sept 19, 2013 23:11:48 GMT
Hi tepo
Gave MartyB the praise for the mainsheet traveller project instead of yourself. Apologies. Again well done on a expert job.
Regards
ORION
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Post by MartyB on Sept 20, 2013 0:47:02 GMT
Orion,
My traveler is still where it was from the get go in the cockpit, just behind the cabin. I did put new harken hardware vs the std Amiot/Goiot stuff. ALong with a 4-1 micro, giving me 16-1. The traveler is a harken with a 4-1 line also to move it around.
Not sure if you could do a 4-1 micro on the bridge deck or not.......but it does help in windy conditions to have the extra ratio going.
I'll take credit for ted, not that I should!LOLOLOL
Marty
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Post by Anwen (Deep Joy) on Sept 24, 2013 17:29:07 GMT
Hi Orion, I'm sorry that I missed your original post. As TedP says, the coachroof moulding is different between the SO 32 and the 32i. I have added the starboard winch to the coachroof on my old SO32, and found it a straightforward job. I found that the coachroof had been moulded with a plywood pad in the coachroof sandwich, so there was no need to reinforce the holes for the winch bolt to stop the coachroof compressing, and fitting the winch itself was easy. I marked out and drilled the holes, and then went to the chandler for the correct length bolts, but if this isn't convenient, you should work on the coachroof being around 20mm thick so the length you need is the thickness of the winch base, plus the depth of the bolts plus 20mm. If you buy the stainless bolts a little too long, you can always cut them back with a hacksaw, but if they are too short, you have no options... One thing to watch is the lead of the lines onto the winch. If you position the clutches to the left of the winch, then the lead from the clutch to the winch will be much sharper than if you position them to the right. Below is a picture which shows the winches on each side and the clutches. I should have installed the new clutches further away from the hatch to get a better lead onto the winch, that is, more to the left as you look at the picture below. Don't forget that you will also need to buy some turning sheaves to go on the coachroof by the mast. I couldn't get the same style as were originally fitted by Jeanneau, but the current Spinlock ones are close.
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