Jeanneau Mini Jod

[albert]

Greetings to all,

My name is Albert and i have recently been introduced to sailing via a local sailing school (topper´s, laser, etc) Needless to say i am hooked!
While i don´t own a Jeanneau (yet) i have been offered two Jeanneau Mini Jod´s
They seem to fit the bill, but i can´t find any information on them except for an old scanned brochure.
If any one on the board has owned one or knows anything about these mini americas cup keel boats i would greatly appreciate any information they might have.

Regards,

Albert

[MalcolmP]

Hi Albert

They look like a lot of fun. Probably the same brochure as you have 



Might be worth dropping an email of Daniel Andrieu the designer,www.andrieudesign.com/ who also designed the successful sister JOD35 and the JOD 24. Daniel is always helpful and fluent in both French (of course) , and English

Do let the forum know if you buy them and also do send in some photos

Malcolm

[albert]

Hello Malcom,

I did manage to email Mr. Andrieu and here was his response (he was very quick to reply btw)

"Dear Alberto,
Yes, we designed Mini Jod, 18 years ago !...
The boat was produced by Jeanneau for an indoor circuit...
Regards
DA "

I was hoping to get a little more than that, but i suppose he´s a very busy man.

I´m going to take a look at the Mini´s next week with someone who is more experienced with sailboats, hopefully they´re worth putting an offer on.

If i do end up with them my plan is to put together a blog and get more information out there, and with luck inspire other owners to add their experiences.

They do look like alot of fun, don´t they. With two of them maybe i can get my girlfriend into sailing ;D

Albert

Aug 27, 2012 16:18:02 GMT MalcolmP said:

Hi Albert

They look like a lot of fun. Probably the same brochure as you have

Might be worth dropping an email of Daniel Andrieu the designer,www.andrieudesign.com/ who also designed the successful sister JOD35 and the JOD 24. Daniel is always helpful and fluent in both French (of course) , and English

Do let the forum know if you buy them and also do send in some photos

Malcolm

[MartyB]

There are a couple of versions of this boat. I know locally, ie Seattle Wa, the one used I believe is the smaller version by a foot or two. The other is longer as noted. You can not race the two together one on one. BUT< both are mini 12m boats. One now that I am typing used here in Seattle is literally a 1/10 scale version. SO about 6.5' long vs full size in the mid 60 foot range.

There is a place in Florida IIRC that still makes them. About 5,000 us dollars IIRC. If you are in Europe, probably not worth exporting one over that way. but if you want a new version, they do exist. If local uses a 1/8 scale per say, best to buy that one, otherwise you can not race the 1/10 as race here against it.

marty

[MalcolmP]

Marty is right there are several mini 12s , one I have seen in the UK - but not sailed is the Illusion en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_(keelboat)#Specifications

I haven't compared the specs with the miniJOD, but Daniel does draw a good boat - the newer SunFast3200 have been an unexpected success

The brochure looks like the miniJOD has a massive wheel rather than tiller lines that I recollect are on the Illusion

[albert]

Thanks Marty, Thanks Malcom,

Marty , unfortunately i am in the south of Spain and as you say it's not worth importing, though the price is attractive. These types of boats are not popular here. In this size most people are into Lasers and the like.

I've only just learned to sail and not interested in regattas or competing. A larger sailboat is impractical for me at this point, i just want something small to putter around in and enjoy. It also has to be esthetically pleasing, and the Jeanneau is very easy on the eyes.

I mentioned the Jod to a work colleague of mine as he is into sailing and asked him if he could come with me and take a look at it. He told me to forget it and buy a Laser type boat, because it looked unstable, i wouldn't be able to participate in regattas and i wouldn't be able to resell it later on. I don't think he gets it.

Malcom, Yes is does have a massive wheel, it was the first thing i noticed and thought it odd for such a small boat. I am very curious as to how well it sails, i assume the weighted keel would aid in stability. The majority of my sailing will be in the Bay of Cadiz and some coastal sailing in the vicinity on very calm days.

[albert]

Ah! i almost forgot, i emailed Jeanneau directly and got a pleasant surprise.

While they didn't have much information on such an old boat, they did email me some of Mr. Andrieu's drawings and the brochure!
I don't know what the forum policy is in regards to posting them but if i get the ok, maybe they might be of interest to some.

[MalcolmP]

Aug 30, 2012 9:54:14 GMT albert said:

Ah! i almost forgot, i emailed Jeanneau directly and got a pleasant surprise.

While they didn't have much information on such an old boat, they did email me some of Mr. Andrieu's drawings and the brochure!
I don't know what the forum policy is in regards to posting them but if i get the ok, maybe they might be of interest to some.

Hi Albert

Yes it would be good to have copies for our archives at least. Maybe you could email them to me at: [e-mail]

Do let the forum know if you buy them (and send in some photos please)

[albert]

Malcom you have mail...addressed to someone else. Sorry about that, i´m getting names mixed up.

[MartyB]

I've seen a brochure somewhere for this boat, thought it was already on this site. maybe it was the Jeanneau/fr old boat/autres area.

I can say that from someone locally that has one of these, they are probably a bit more unstable than a laser. Lasers at least can be righted easily if you go over 90! even a 90-100 lbs teen as I was in jr high when lasers first came out, i raced at a local club hull #'s 700-900 or there abouts. A few had #s in the low 1000-1200 range. IIRC they are in the 200-300K range since the mid 70's.

I do admit, these boats look fun in the right environment. If you do not know what you are doing in one of these, it is not good! While one can go in waves over 1' or .3M or so, if you are not careful water can get into the cockpit hull and be a bit on the how do you drain the thing. lasers and the like are a bit better on this aspect. There is a fleet or two of over 30-50 boats in Seattle and Vancouver/Victoria BC here where I am in this part of the world.

Marty

[MalcolmP]

Aug 31, 2012 19:14:35 GMT albert said:

Malcom you have mail...addressed to someone else. Sorry about that, i´m getting names mixed up.

No problem, I get more mixed up the older I get.

I have quite a few AKA's [e-mail] is the one I use for the website as is good for contacting me or sending info

cheers

Malcolm

[albert]

Aug 31, 2012 22:21:07 GMT MartyB said:

I've seen a brochure somewhere for this boat, thought it was already on this site. maybe it was the Jeanneau/fr old boat/autres area.

I can say that from someone locally that has one of these, they are probably a bit more unstable than a laser. Lasers at least can be righted easily if you go over 90! even a 90-100 lbs teen as I was in jr high when lasers first came out, i raced at a local club hull #'s 700-900 or there abouts. A few had #s in the low 1000-1200 range. IIRC they are in the 200-300K range since the mid 70's.

I do admit, these boats look fun in the right environment. If you do not know what you are doing in one of these, it is not good! While one can go in waves over 1' or .3M or so, if you are not careful water can get into the cockpit hull and be a bit on the how do you drain the thing. lasers and the like are a bit better on this aspect. There is a fleet or two of over 30-50 boats in Seattle and Vancouver/Victoria BC here where I am in this part of the world.

Marty

Hello Marty,

I´ve tried something very similar to a Laser and i wasn´t very happy in it at all.
My 200 pound frame made it unstable. The only time i ever felt comfortable was kneeling in the centre of the cockpit.
I´d imagine with the weighted keel that the Jeanneau would be more stable than a Laser, adding to that would be that these boats aren´t that fast.
I´d also think that since all my sailing would be in a large sheltered bay, there shouldn´t be too many problems.

I´ve been trying to find anyone that might have sailed one in the past, so i can get their opinion, but so far no luck.
Does your aquaitance acutally have a Jeanneau or is a Norlin type III boat?
If so i´d really love to get their opinion on how it sails.

Regards,

Alberto

[MartyB]

Alberto,

I'm pretty sure the two he has would be Norlins. As I doubt too many of the Jeanneau version made here to the left coast/puget sound region of NA. He was the one that explained the differences.

Might try an email to Seattle yacht club. There are 30 or so of these that regularly race out of that club. That might get you a better response.

Marty

[albert]

Hello Marty,

I used to live in Vancouver before moving to Europe. I wasn´t into sailing back then...too bad, because i lived in a sheltered cove with a great little marina.

I´ve seen some videos of the Norlins sailing in some light choppy water and they seem to do fairly well considering their size, though i would never want to take one out into open ocean however close the shore might be.

I seem to recall that there were only 100 or so of these Jeanneau´s made and the only other one i´ve seen for sale is in France.

If you do manage more info, even if it is Norlin (i´m sure it is very similar to the Mini Jod) related i would greatly appreciate it.

[albert]

Update! and some not so great news.

I finally had a chance to go and take a look at the boats on offer earlier this week.

I arrived in a happy mood with visions of a done deal and ready to cart them away, and then i saw them.
Both of them were in a sad state of neglect. They were filthy from having having lain uncovered for two years. One of the hulls had pieces of fibreglass missing and the gelcoat was cracked over 60% of the hull, with some important pieces of the rudder seating assembly missing.
The other was in better shape, this one only had the original seat replaced with a wooden crate cover. The hull was intact.
The rudders and keels looked like they had been repaired by a 5 year old, with some ugly fiberglass work overall.

Nedless to say i was disappointed, as the owner had told me they were both in perfect state. I was further surprised by his attitude as to their state. He simply brushed it off, saying all i needed to do was give them a good cleaning and a coat of fiberglass and that they were worth the asking price and more.

It´s too bad, if Jeanneau still offered replacements i might have haggled with him, bought them and fixed them up. As it stands, i doesn´t make financial sense.

I am still on the lookout for one of these, so if anyone comes across one in europe i would be interested.

[laurent]

Hello,

I am a french man. And I don't speak english fluently. So, il am sorry for mistakes !

If you are still looking for a Mini JOD in Europe look at :

bateau-occasion.vivastreet.com/annonces-bateau-occasion+baden-56870/rare-minijod-monotype-monoplace/48546327.

This boat is in south "Bretagne", in Baden. It's a town in "Golfe du Morbihan". I'am not the owner, and I don't know him.

I am not myself "Jeanneau Mini JOD" ' s owner. But I have seen in Etel (Bretagne in France) , a fleet of nine boats which seem to have the same hull as Jeanneau Mini JOD excepted keel and wheel. Genoa seems to be bigger. And they dont sail with spinnaker or asymetric

Their name is "Mini Maxi". And the owners have a Face book with pictures.

If you are interested, I have pictures of several Mini Maxi races during august month of two last years. I'm the author, and I can give you them on the forum or send it to you by e-mail. I have not yet understood all forum's rules.

Best regards.