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Post by schocktherapy on Sept 21, 2011 6:36:00 GMT
So the local Jeanneau broker has a 379 coming to a floating boat show this weekend. I haven't seen one up close yet so I am going down to have a look. In the meantime I have taken a look at a few promo videos. A couple of things caught my eye, for starters the chined stern; it will be interesting to see how it affects performance and handling. The rudder looks pretty deep, which I suspect is a good thing if you carry too much heel with the chines. I'll be she surfs better than the last generation!
I'm not sold on the bent windows and foredeck hatch. Yeah they look nice but how are they going to age? I know Beneteaus and hunters that have had leak problems with fancy curved windows. I can't say I have had any experience with them personally.
I notice even the "performance" model has a cabin top traveller, that is unfortunate.
Has anyone got one or have sailed on one in decent breeze?
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Post by maby on Sept 21, 2011 17:44:32 GMT
looks nice and decent accomodation. We came close to buying one till we saw the cockpit close up - putting twin wheels on a boat that small makes for a cramped cockpit, so we backed off.
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Post by schocktherapy on Sept 21, 2011 18:31:31 GMT
Good point, it looks ok in photos but i will have to see in person. I do like the clear path through to the transom that twin wheels gives, but not if the cockpit is roo cluttered as a result.
It seems that details are hard to come by even on the Jeanneau site. I can't seem to find any info on keel and rig options or anything.
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Post by MalcolmP on Sept 21, 2011 19:01:26 GMT
looks nice and decent accomodation. We came close to buying one till we saw the cockpit close up - putting twin wheels on a boat that small makes for a cramped cockpit, so we backed off. Twin wheels are making a lot of sense - providing it is a very wide stern yacht - Dufour even now fit them on a 34' see: www.dufour-yachts.com/boat-dufour-335-gl-19.htmldownside is some more friction in the steering cable but the upside is brilliant visibility forward both when sailing heeled over or when motoring as well as the great access from the stern Some info on the SO379 at: www.sea-ventures.co.uk/downloads/brochures/BrochureSunOdyssey2012.pdf |
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Post by maby on Sept 21, 2011 19:27:56 GMT
It's a question of length as well as width - at least for us. The cockpit is an important living area - if the weather is ok, we eat in it and often lay full length reading, or even sleeping on a warm summer night. This generation of sub-forty-foot boats with twin wheels just don't have enough length in the cockpit - the bench seats on the 379 are about 1.5m long - not even enough for three people to sit comfortably side by side, let alone for an adult to lay down.
I guess that, for a dedicated racer, this is unimportant in comparison with the flexibility of the twin wheels, but for leisure cruisers I think it may be unacceptable for many. My boat is an extention of my home and I need to be comfortable in it.
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Post by davideso37 on Sept 23, 2011 9:15:03 GMT
Maby,
I agree with your point about the length if the cockpit seats, For cruising we have an enclosure over the cockpit so it is possible to sleep on the seats of our SO37. With twin wheels it has to be quite a large yacht before there is 1.85 metres of cockpit seat. When it comes to racing I can sit to leeward and see the tell tales on the genoa and the crew can keep a lookout however that might not be possible with the wide stern of the 379. My wife would however like the twin wheels so she can see around the cabin top without having to stand up. Perhaps I should get her a remote for the autopilot.
David
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Post by Anwen (Deep Joy) on Sept 24, 2011 12:57:10 GMT
I spent a fair amount of time on the SO379 at the Southampton Boat Show yesterday. The curved windows at the front of the cockpit are fixed, with an flat opening hatch next to them - they give a good amount of extra light to the aft cabins, and I wouldn't envisage that they would be problematic.
Some of the downsides that I considered were that the cockpit table is an expensive extra, but without it, the cockpit will be way too wide for adequate bracing of the crew when the boat is heeled. The standard spec instrumentation is pretty basic, and again you have to buy the instrument pack to get a plotter, which works out expensive. I'm still not convinced by the fine teak either, but I noticed on the Beneteau boats that they are now using this as well, although it is stained a darker colour.
Overall, I think the 379 is a very nice boat, with lots of good options such as the lift keel, self tacker etc, but for me, is just too big as I sail single handed, and I'm not getting any younger. For a couple though, with the single aft cabin, I think it would be great boat to do some serious cruising with.
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Post by schocktherapy on Sept 24, 2011 20:13:05 GMT
I don't think the shorter seats to accommodate the twin wheels is a deal breaker for me since we are not tall, and we don't plan on sleeping in the cockpit. On the plus side the wheels allow for a good windward helming position without completely cutting off the aft cockpit from the rest of the boat like a single large wheel does. When stern tied it would be nice to have a nice clear path on and off the boat without the need for removing the wheel. Of course I have never owned a wheeled boat so I can only speculate!
As far as instrumentation goes, I would have to look at what is available from the factory, but I tend to like to choose my own electronics, so I would most likely have my own choice installed after delivery.
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Post by jrosen on Jul 6, 2020 16:39:16 GMT
I own a 379. the boat is a pleasure to sail. We have the deep keel, with a single rudder. We race her in a PHRF fleet. She is not the fastest boat nor does she point particularly well but she runs very well catching many (but not all) the boats in the A fleet. She carries a PHRF rating of 117. WE have hull #24 built in South Carolina. We have had many issues with breaking gel coat and Jeanneau has not been particularly good at fixing these problems. We have also had issues with many of the small fittings on the boat breaking and finishes deteriorating which again, Jeanneau has not been good at fixing.
The boat sails well and is a pleasure to cruise. We have had her out mostly near the coast in the Northeast. She tracks very nicely and can easily be adjusted to a neutral helm using the traveler. She flies when the spinnaker is deployed. One major concern that we have is that there are only two winches for the main, jib and spinnaker sheets. The Jib cars are very difficult to adjust under any load because you need to secure the Jib first and then set up the jib car lines on the single winch. There are two smaller winches on the cabin top where most of the controls are set up. We have a number of configurations under which we can use these smaller winches for the sheets but these are not optimal.
The boat needs the twin wheels because the stern is so wide. it is the only way that you can easily see the jib on either tack.
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Post by zaphod on Jul 7, 2020 17:19:49 GMT
looks nice and decent accomodation. We came close to buying one till we saw the cockpit close up - putting twin wheels on a boat that small makes for a cramped cockpit, so we backed off. What do you mean? Twin wheels opens the cockpit up! You have to consider the beam of the boat and the size of a single wheel that is big enough to comfortably helm from the high side. THAT would cramp the cockpit! Twin wheels means you don't have to have a folding or removable wheel make more space, and it gives you a clear path to the swim platform. |
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Post by zaphod on Jul 7, 2020 17:22:39 GMT
looks nice and decent accomodation. We came close to buying one till we saw the cockpit close up - putting twin wheels on a boat that small makes for a cramped cockpit, so we backed off. What do you mean? Twin wheels opens the cockpit up! You have to consider the beam of the boat and the size of a single wheel that is big enough to comfortably helm from the high side. THAT would cramp the cockpit! Twin wheels means you don't have to have a folding or removable wheel make more space, and it gives you a clear path to the swim platform. Oops! Didn't realize this was a 9 year old zombie thread! |
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Post by andy123 on Aug 22, 2020 18:10:39 GMT
Hi
I’m new to the forum. I have a 379, 2014, bought second hand, had her for 3 years, we sail on the Chesapeake Bay normally. Agree with all Jeff’s comments. Many small issues With the gelcoat and minor issues with fixtures. Not enough winches! And need some system to keep lines tidier. But she’s a real pleasure to sail and pretty comfortable. Just spent a week on her on the northern part of the bay exploring some freshwater rivers - no jelly fish up there! Could do with some more space too, what do people do with that large locker at the stern on the port side? We have the emergency tiller in there but there’s a lot of space, would be interested in any advice...
Andy
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Post by Chris Meyer on Aug 22, 2020 21:13:55 GMT
Hi Andy 123
We took delivery this year of a new 389 which very similar to the 379.
We have so far plenty of winches. We have 4. Two on each side of the cabin top and two near the helm for the jib and code 0.
As far as the large locker in the port side of the stern, we put several milk crates in there and tied them together. we will them with life jackets which is nice having them closer to the wheels.
We find the twin wheels does give a lot of room in the cockpit.
We bought a code 0 which we have thoroughly enjoyed.
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Post by zaphod on Aug 23, 2020 0:02:36 GMT
We have a 39i, so not exactly the same, but we also have large lockers. We carry 3 inflatable kayaks with room left over snorkeling gear and anything else we want ready access to. We keep our spare lifejackets in a locker down below. (We usually wear our inflatable pfds while sailing).
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