johnnyboy
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"Fortune Teller" SO 42 DS 2010
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Post by johnnyboy on Apr 11, 2011 17:01:05 GMT
My 42ds is being commissioned now. I ordered a cqr anchor, but the plow hits the bow.
I know a Delta will fit, as that is what Jeanneau normally supplies in the U.S.
How is the holding power of the Delta? I sail in the Chesapeake bay which has a lot of mud.
Any feedback, bad or good on the delta would be appreciated.
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Post by MalcolmP on Apr 11, 2011 17:42:26 GMT
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Post by dublin on Apr 11, 2011 18:26:40 GMT
I have a spade on a 39ds. It sits fine on the bow roller with about 1inch of space between the tip and the bow The roc a etc with the roll bar don't fi with a bowspit
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Post by flightdeck on Apr 11, 2011 21:28:23 GMT
Brave man to bring up an anchor topic ;D Our Delta is a garden ornament these days, let go 1 time too many. The Manson supreme we have is great, fits on bow roller ...just, care has to be taken when lifting it out, as the point is.....pointy and can swing into the bow with a result of little white bits (gelcoat) floating away. I also think anchors are a personal trust thing, same time $1000's are spend on electronics / TV / stereo etc and yet an extra $300 for what I call a good anchor appears to be difficult money spend.
Cheers
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Post by rhb on Apr 12, 2011 2:50:44 GMT
We've got a 25kg Rocna on a modified mount on our 42I. The bow mods included lengthening the fitting by 150mm and adding a 6mm SS round bar around the outside to stiffen it up. The original thin sheet metal is a bit flimsy for where we go (42 deg south).
Works great, I'll try to remember to post some pictures.
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Post by krawall on Apr 12, 2011 5:42:57 GMT
We have a 20kg Delta on our 36i and I'm quite happy with it. The Delta normally sets better than a CQR, in my opinion there is no need to even consider the CQR since the swivel makes it more difficult to dig in and is unlikely to help when the boat swings as the pulling angle will change.
Spade anchors are presumably the best (Rocna, Mansion Supreme et al) but won't fit properly unless you modify the anchor arrangement (our problem was the spinnaker bowsprit)
Our Delta never let got but also I make sure to dig in with full reverse always. The size up from 16kg makes it a bit more delicate to handle but it sits around an inch away from the bow and we though banged it a bit on the bow we not have yet had any chipping, just marks that polished out.
Finally, in soft mud a plow anchor will do better than a spade anchor.
But yes, anchors are a religious thing, opinions vary.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by dublin on Apr 12, 2011 7:55:10 GMT
The spade fits without any modification. Because of theplumb stem there is a likelihood of the point hitting when lifting. I have fitted a long skinny wrap around bow fender to protect the gelcoat
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Post by Don Reaves on Apr 12, 2011 9:25:40 GMT
Can you describe your bow fender, and perhaps provide a photograph or two? I've been thinking of doing this, but haven't come up with anything that I thought would work.
Don
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Post by rxc on Apr 12, 2011 11:47:24 GMT
I have a delta 20kg on my 43DS, and had no problems in the chesapeake, where I sailed it for 2 years. We anchor out a LOT, and it seems to be quite a good anchor for those conditions. Previously, with a smaller boat, I used a real Bruce, which also worked quite well, and I carry that same Bruce on the 43DS as a backup.
Most people in the Chesapeake use Danforth-style anchors, which work well in the softer areas, but I have seen some spots where the ooze was thin, and a Danforth did not hold well.
My only experience with a CQR was in the Carribbean (Guadeloupe) on a charter, where it worked well in sand, but not at all in an oozy river. It literally plowed the bottom.
Bottom line - you need to know what kind of bottom you are going to anchor in. I think the Delta would work well in the Bay, but if you go outside, a different style would be prudent to carry as a backup.
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Post by dublin on Apr 12, 2011 18:45:11 GMT
Don, I will be on the boat at th weekend and will take some pictures.
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Post by MartyB on Apr 13, 2011 13:33:47 GMT
Don,
Not sure if Jeanneau has these or if they are aftermarket, but I have seen some of the more plumb bow boats with a stainless steel plate on the bow to protect it from the anchor. This could be worth looking into also depending upon how dublin has done his bow area.
Marty
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Post by Tafika II on Apr 14, 2011 1:24:30 GMT
The Delta will also hit the hull. I had one on my 42DS. I had a custom plate welded to the existing roller using the same mounting holes with longer bolts. I traded in the Delta for a Rocna 25 & been extremely satisfied. I kept the Delta as a second forward anchor and us a Fortress as an aft anchor when needed. I'm on the west coast so it sand, mud and rocks. Great holding in all, but be careful as the Rocna's set fast with very little after movement. Good luck with you new 42!
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Post by reverie on Apr 15, 2011 13:57:36 GMT
Hello all,
I also want to put a 15kg Rocna on my 2004 SO35. (The 10kg Delta that I inherited with the boat is too small for some of the bottoms we encounter in Georgian Bay - we've dragged a couple of times.)
However, I need to extend the anchor roller on the starboard side of the forestay. The shank on the Rocna 15kg is 24". Where in North America can I get replacement parts for the Jeanneau anchor roller? Does anyone know who the manufacturer is?
Many thanks,
John
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Post by dublin on Apr 28, 2011 15:56:23 GMT
Hi,
I promised photos of the bow fender - can't seem to work out how to attach photos - Help ?
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Post by dublin on Apr 28, 2011 15:58:37 GMT
Bow Fender
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Post by dublin on Apr 28, 2011 15:59:33 GMT
Spade anchor in situ on standard bow fitting 39DS
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Post by dublin on Apr 28, 2011 16:00:16 GMT
Gap bewteen spade and bow
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Post by Don Reaves on Apr 28, 2011 20:32:50 GMT
Dublin,
I love your bow fender. So simple and apparently easy to store.
What material is it made of?
Don
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Post by dublin on Apr 28, 2011 20:45:10 GMT
Not sure of the technical material. It is verylike the flat fenders racing boats use. I found it at Southampton boat show last year. Most of the competition are very bulky. This one is flat - only about 1 inch thick
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Post by flightdeck on Apr 28, 2011 22:12:58 GMT
Know this is an anchor forum, but why don't you reverse into the berth, with the open transom it's just a step on / off Cheers
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Post by dublin on Apr 29, 2011 9:04:52 GMT
The bow fender is to protect the bow from knocks when raising the anchor. It is not left on permanently -just fitted when anchoring. The rest of the time it is stored in the anchor well. It is not as protection for berthing.
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Post by touchngo on May 3, 2011 9:07:59 GMT
We have a Delta on our SO 40. Also have a plate on the stem to protect it when raising/lowering. The plate was on the boat when we bought her, so not sure if it is a Jeanneau part, or something the previous owner fitted. Cheers, PT
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hardy
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Post by hardy on Aug 13, 2012 22:27:47 GMT
Where do you get this bow fender from ??
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Post by dublin on Aug 14, 2012 8:48:13 GMT
Compass marine.co.uk The bow on the 39 is near vertical. The spade anchor spins a lot when it comes out of the water being raised The febder works great for protecting the bow from the point.
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Post by johnwilliams on Aug 27, 2012 10:58:31 GMT
Hi, the Delta anchor on my 36i has been brilliant, I have lots of experience living on anchor, having spent two and half years in the Caribbean and I just cannot fault the Delta. It was new to me, when I bought the boat in 2009, so I was sceptical at first, but that anchor has held us through several gales and I have so much respect for it that I sleep very easily now at night.
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