new (2 me) sunlight 30

[gaho10]

8-)I just got a 1987 sunlight 30 I could not fine very much on the Internet about it, like the phrf rating for it.How it sails or what to look for and upgrades to make it better Any help would be great Thanks Gregg

[tean]

Hello Gregg

Our Sun Light 30 is about the same age and is the shallow keel version. She sails very well, being light and easily handled but makes rather more leeway than our old Quarter tonner, due to the shallow draft fin keel. We have had a new mainsail by a local sailmaker and a new working jib, to make sail handling easier, though we do change to the no 1 Genoa in light winds. We have a cruising chute (450 sq ft) designed for broad reaching, which could be bigger, but was made for the quarter tonner.

We did a little club racing (two up) last season, but found the 300sq ft North Tri radial Genoa too much to handle on short beats. We now intend to keep her for cruising and use the Quarter tonner for club races this season.

The Yanmar 2GM20 engine and 2 bladed 14 x 10 folding prop performs very well.

Don't know phrf rating, we sailed off a PY number of 1052 based on Sun Light 31 of 1022 (with inboard, 2 bladed fixed), -10 for folding prop, +40 for racing with no spinnaker or cruising chute)

Best wishes

John

ps. Please add your name to the Sun Light 30 owners list

[MartyB]

Gregg,

Assuming you are in the US or Canada, asking about PHRF ratings, I can not find a rating for your boat, or its later model, the Sunfast/odysess 31. But I do have basic measurements, and they are similar to my 84 arcadia, but with more SA to work with, and +700 lbs of disp. Doing this, with my boat being a 159-191 depending upon the are it is in, you are probably 10-15 sec at best faster, so 150-180 or there abouts.

Upper east coast seem to be the fast rated ones, ie 150 is PHRF-NE, here in the NW ie puget sound, we are ave +10%, not sure why they did that, other than to make things a bit more competitive for the slower boats to a degree. for me, 171 + 17 = 188 base. BC is 191, they are usually about 2-3 xec per mile slower no matter the boat over the US side of the border.

The other boat similar in size, I can find PHRF stats on is an Atallia, which runs from 144-174 with an ave of 156. I do not have specs on that boat off the top of my head, but I recall it being about 1.5-2' longer than my Arcadia.

Marty

[MartyB]

You can find some ISAF handicaps, there is a secs per mile ratio. Not sure how close it is to PHRF, but assuming a sec per mile is equal.........My fin keel is 763, CB model is 773 sunlights are 773 for a cb model, Tall mast models are 733 for deep keel, and 748 for shallow, std mast is 753 and 768. With this round about swag'ing, you might be in the same general PHF range as I am, but a bit faster due to 520# of sail vs 488 for me as designed. I have 539 with a 155 up, and a full roach main at 195 vs std at 161, 345 jib SA vs 327 std.

Marty

[gaho10]

Thanks for the help I'm just going to give these #'s the the race official and see what they give me. I'm going Thu the boat now getting ready to sail from Sandusky, OH to my home port on lake st.Clair MI haven't found anything bad is there anything I really need to look for?

[MartyB]

A lot of boats from that era have a foam back vinyl hull liner, the foam rots after a period of time, and falls off. Assuming you are buying "witch of Endor" the YWorld pics do not show from what I can see issues like I had in my Arcadia. Here is a link to what I had to deal with
www.jeanneau-owners.com/hintsandtips/headliningcabin.html
There is also a link at the end of that page to see what my head looked like, and what the vinyl looked like falling down.

The specs do not look quite correct, in that it shows a 4'9" draft, when the specs I show have a 5'10" deep draft as advertising shows. 4'9" is the shoal draft. The tall mast assuming you have this is good. Here is a link to tech specs, same website has a brochure.
www.jeanneauforum.nl/documentatie/sunlight%2030%20tech.pdf

If the mast is 41.2' tall, you have the tall mast, if 38.1 the std mast pkg. Measurement would be to deck not top of cabin, add about a foot to actual mast height.

For a PHRF measure, you will need to get the club rating person the base measurements of the boat, along with your actual measurements for sail area of the main, largest Jib/genoa and spin if you have one, along with spin pole etc. Here is a link to PHRF-NW for measurements we use, I would imagine you local region has similar forms you will need to fill out.
www.phrf-nw.org/forms
There are a bunch of form links on that page, click the new member app, and you will get what you probably need to get a rating from your local club. I can not find a base or hi-lo-ave rating off of a site at USSailing with over 4000 boats. There is NO sunlights listed in any flavor shape or form. You should be in the range of my boat that I mentioned earlier.


There are few photos of (now) your boat under the previous owners name too.

Enjoy the boat, welcome to the Jeanneau owners club. Not sure about where you are, but Larson Marine has a owners Roundezvous, I believe some of the other Jeanneau dealers on the GLs have the too, you can look up that info on the jeanneau builder site. Kind of fun to show up in the smallest and oldest boat, then turn around and kick some of the bigger boats hineys during the saturday afternoon race! At least that is what occurs here at the combo Wa st and BC one. That was with old original sails, need to show up with the new laminates and see what happens.....LOLOLOL

marty

[gaho10]

Thats the one, I do have the headliner drop a little in the v berth but the aft berth is bad the PO tried stapling it up I will redo this year the same way you did, your's looks great. I'm replacing the two big windows the the wood inside the windows but thats it the rest is pretty good.I haven't really seen the sails I'm afraid they may be blown out but the po said they are still good.

[MartyB]

If the sails are original, or close in age, do not be surprised if they are blown out from a race perspective. My originals were when I got the boat at 20 yrs of age. The only original left that I use, and was the first to use was a storm jib. I've used it half dozen times?!?!

if you have nay questions on what I did to the liner, pm or email me. The v-berth, to too anything that was flat, and did a panel, and where there are deck nuts/bolts, I tried to do panels too so I could get to the mounting items easier vs pulling a glued on material off, hoping to reuse etc.

Off to catch a ferry across the sound to visit MIL.

Marty