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Post by Purple Mist on Dec 15, 2009 16:26:34 GMT
We are contemplating fitting a Solent removable inner fore stay to enable us to fly a storm jib, behind the furled Genoa. Has anyone experience of this, please?
Another option is to use a Gale Sail or something similar, but we think the additional stay can be used for other hank on sails.
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Post by MalcolmP on Dec 16, 2009 18:33:45 GMT
There is a group test of different storm jib options in the new Jan 2010 practical Boat owner. I only skimmed the article but think the conclusion was that a proper removable second stay and hanked on storm jib is the way to go. The other systems are OK but all are a compromise
I don't have personal experience, but would be interested to see what you decide as we may do something similar on our 39i
Malcolm
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Post by Purple Mist on Dec 17, 2009 16:35:28 GMT
Thanks Malcolm,
I have read the PBO article and reached the same conclusion that an inner stay and hanked on jib was probably the way to go. However, I am a little concerned at the extra trips to the pointy end in less than idea conditions.
I will let you know our decision in due course.
Cecil.
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Post by MartyB on Dec 18, 2009 1:26:15 GMT
THere could be more than one use for the additional forestay. Granted you can furl the BIG jib, but in many cases the smaller furled jib is not as efficient, so potentially having a 80-90% jib along with the more typical 30-35% for a SJib could be good in between when the furled jib is good to not good. This might allow you to put up the forestay in "better" conditions per say before going to the SJ in worst conditions. Then you might only have to make a trip in BAD conditions to take down 80% jib and put up SJ, which either might store in the anchor locker ahead of time. I am thinking more the SJ getting stored in the locker. I at least have room for my small SJ on my boat.
Some of this is thinking out loud as to how I might set myself up and prepare for certain conditions, so when "worst" does hit, I am setup with a plan of attack. I do not have furling, so everything is put up and down on a foil, no hanks any more which at times can be nice.
Marty
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Post by krawall on Dec 21, 2009 15:33:21 GMT
Let us know what route to go. I too have a 36i and a removeable inner forestay is always good to have. Just... where to attach it from (height-wise). Without runners you probably have to put it up to the fractional head / forestay position which is not very good. Then using runners its getting very complicated. I wonder, for the rare times of actually using it, if a Gale Sail or similar wouldn't be the "better" choice overall. Nothing saves you from going forward anyway unless you have an inner forestay furler, which I wouldn't fit for obvious reasons but some people (on bigger boats) do and it seems to work for them.
Actually, since you have a SO36i as I, I wonder if we cant' use the spinnaker pole downhaul eye (with additional reinforcements of course but the location would not be too bad) and the spinnaker pole topping lift replaced by a non-stretch line. Although I'm not sure if we could achieve enough luff tension. Though something like this would be obviously easier to setup with the existing scenario in mind.
Tom
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Post by pablorushy on Apr 18, 2011 15:08:59 GMT
Hello
I have contemplated the additional temp stay for my SO40 to set a storm jib. How can one be sure that the mast will take the extra load imposed at the point lower down the mast for the new head point if the mast ia not designed for such a rig. It also raises a question of what is suitable reinforcement at deck level.
Any comments on these issues are appreciated.
Regards
Paul Rush
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Post by offshore on Apr 19, 2011 4:46:12 GMT
Hi Purple Mist
If you want to add the extra forestay you should email or talk to your local seldon dealer. They will have all the specs on you rig and will be able to advise on a suitable configuration. I have had contact with them in my part of the world and they have been very helpful.
For the storm jib on our 36i we release the halyard on the jib and lower it. The storm jib then goes in the track on the roller furler. It works well and does not take long to change over. We have a spinlock feeder on the forestay which helps a lot with getting the new sail in the track.
cheers
Barry
Cheers
offshore
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Post by davideso37 on Apr 25, 2011 9:38:09 GMT
Cecil,
I would like a storm jib on our SO37. Like you I am concerned at the trip to the pointy end in conditions that require a storm jib to be fitted. As the wind builds we can furl the genoa but after a few turns the shape is not very aerodynamic and the thought of unfurling a large genoa and handling it on deck worries me. A gale sail that can be set on a pocket that goes around the furled genoa looks like a reasonable compromise but it does take a trip right to the pointy end in a pitching sea. A solent that can be set on hanks sounds ideal and it sounds like the new SO379 is coming with a solent option. There are solents that come from the normal Genoa offtake and ones that come from the second spreader position. The mast supplier should be able to tell you if you need a runner to ensure the rig integrity. It would be nice to be able to set the solent without runners but that may be asking too much.
Look forward to hearing what you choose.
David
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