Anchor snubber for a SO 380 with bowsprit.

[bobchinook]

Does anyone have a good solution for an anchor snubber for a boat with a bowsprit and a fiberglass coaming?
On our boat there is no cleat in line with the bow roller in the anchor locker and the starboard bow cleat is way offline from center and would have significant chafing. The chain is too far forward and below the bow roller for an easy hookup to the chain.
Any suggestions?

[moe58]

Hello Bobchinook

I had the same issue with my 389. The way I attach my snubber is by first tying a line from the starboard bow cleat to the port bow cleat. The line has to be tight. I then hook one end of the snubber to it at the middle in line with the anchor chain. I hook the other end to the anchor chain. Maybe this way might work for you.

Cheers

[moonshadow]

Another solution I have been using on the boats I captain is:
I use a long 2 leg snubber one end at each side bow cleat and a loop tied in middle. I pull the loop up through the anchor slot above the anchor and chain. This I do once and leave it in place. Store it rigged inside the chain locker. When you anchor as usual I attach the snubber loop to the chain with a soft shackle and let it all go through the slot as you put out the extra chain.
This allows all work to be done inside the pulpit. The only issue is that you are best off when retrieving the anchor to keep the snubber setup from getting caught under the chain.
And I gave up on chain hooks years ago since soft shackles work better and go through the roller.

[bobchinook]

Thank you Moonshadow, I like the pre-rigged idea. I like the idea of a soft shackle too. How long is your setup?

[bobchinook]

moe58, that would be easy but I double checked and there is no room under the chain locker cover for a line to pass to the port bow cleat. 

[Mike]

We have a 380 and have been using different ways to snub the anchor chain. The best one so far is to tie a rolling hitch to the chain
and run this back to the midships cleat,once attached lower more chain.We've found climbing rope has the best elasticity. You need to align the rope with the front roller and a friction ring before the cleat to keep it away from the coach roof.
Let me know how you get on.

[bobchinook]

Mike, that sounds like a simple, easy setup. Do you have two friction rings, one from port for alignment straight toward the roller and one from starboard guiding the rope away from the coach roof?

[moonshadow]

Reply to your question: my rig has 40ft legs but I don’t usually let all that out unless needed. I use half in. Three strand so 20ft is usually plenty. The rest is let out when warranted and easy to adjust at the cleats.

[sunrise4]

Moonshadow, I have used a similar method in the past but find that the legs attached to the cleats rub on the hull as the boat weathervanes and really scuff up the bow.  Any recommendations?

[moonshadow]

My boat has a bobstay fwd of the hull and that keeps the lines off the boat. I use about 6ft of fire hose over the lines as anti chafe and that has been working a few years.
One note: at one time I wanted more stretch but still shorter distance to chain so I went through the base of bow cleat and tied off at midship cleat. As the line did its job and stretched it made lots of noise passing through the bow cleat. Never again.

[moonshadow]

And I use thin line from fire hose to cleat to keep it from riding down the snubber lines.

[sunrise4]

Thanks!  Good idea about the fire hose.  Can you clarify how the bobstay comes into play?  We have a SO 419 with a short bobstay and is well clear off the snubbers.

[moonshadow]

In stronger winds if the boat is swinging at anchor a lot I found that my snubber would rub the bobstay. Not an issue when winds are lighter. Probably depends on your specific cleat location etc. But yours should be similar to my 469.

[Mike]

Dec 22, 2023 16:55:11 GMT bobchinook said:

Mike, that sounds like a simple, easy setup. Do you have two friction rings, one from port for alignment straight toward the roller and one from starboard guiding the rope away from the coach roof?

Yes, we use the bow starboard cleat for the alignment and one at the bottom of a stanchion on the portside that has a ring on it for some reason.

When we go back out I'll sent it up and take some pictures if that will help.
Good luck

Mike

[richarda]

Hi Mike, Richard here from New Zealand.

We took possession of our 380 1 month ago - we purchased the mooring kit from the factory and we have 12m of chain then the balance is warp.

Predominantly we are anchoring in 4 to 8m of water, so we have found if we put the entire chain out and warp to the depth of the anchorage we don't need to use a snubber. Boats sits well with this anchor set up.