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Post by zaphod on Oct 23, 2023 2:44:56 GMT
I would be inclined to stick with what Philippe Briand designed, which I believe is the 105%?
If you really want self tacking, then go with that, but I would be really hesitant to go with a 140. Big overlapping headsails are old-school thinking, and have no place on a modern design IMHO. You would likely have to install new genoa tracks to get the correct lead position.
If you want large sail area for light wind conditions, you should consider adding a Code Zero to your inventory.
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Post by barryl on Oct 23, 2023 20:04:35 GMT
Hello,
What do you use the boat for? How important is sailing to you?
If you race then I would suggest the 140. If you just cruise and motor when the wind is light, but still like to sail often then I would suggest the 106 (or larger, maybe a 120?). I wouldn't recommend the self tacker unless you already had the traveler and other bits.
I have a SO 409 and a 140 headsail. I'm very happy with sailing performance but I do a lot of racing, including distance races. With a full crew we can choose a 110 or 140 headsail, code 0 on furler, small spinnaker or large spinnaker on bowsprit.
Barry
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Post by MartyB on Nov 2, 2023 19:36:58 GMT
I'll assume you don't need deck hardware for a 140. At least where I am at, granted my rig is mast head...... in our typical up to 15 knots of wind, a lighter weight cloth 140 will help ALOT. Yes you can do a Code 0.....but now you are using the equal IMHP of the 155/158 LP I use. This size is a PITA with a mini forestay as I have too. A zero you will be furling doing tacks. Both bad and good points to this can be brought up. I would get a 105'ish in a size heavier than recommended. This if you have furling, can get you into the 15 to 40 knot relm. Then as full roached main as you can get. Not familiar with in mast furling, you can get some flexible vertical battens that will increase sail area, for lighter days too. Std hoist main, I like the top 2 full, 2-3 partial bottom for best sail shape ability. I'm needing to replace my 15-year-old main. Being as I only have 2 reef lines to work with. From my experience in 30-50 knot winds, I'll be going with reefs in the 1.5 and 3 realm. Seems like if I do the normal 10% drop first reef, I'm tucking that 2nd in soon after, wishing I had a third available. I do have when I bought the boat, an asymmetric that is around 600 sq ft. I'd never flown a spin before, so went a bit, small. Recently bought one around 700. Slightly lighter better cloth. Helps a lot in lighter winds. Gets overpowered in 17-19 not winds, vs the smaller in 20-22. The big headsails do better imho above 15-20 wing on wing for me. Could be because I have a mid 80s end of IOR hull type. I do get some wicked broaches as winds hit the 15-20 knot with spinnaker up. I do have a 140 available, I usually race with above sails on board, this is my cruise delivery jib. While I like it, the clew is at the widest point of my boat. Pointing compared to the 155/105 sails sucks. 140 is general speaking, the designed sail for my boat. Depending upon how your boat is set up, the 140 may get you some speed, but point a few degrees lower. Good and Bad! At the end of the day, there is no right or wrong way to go. It's the how you use your boat, in what wind and sea conditions that should rule over how and what sails we use on our boats.
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Post by moonshadow on Nov 4, 2023 18:48:42 GMT
I’m a cruiser. My jib is the original 105%. But I found that adding a code zero allows me to enjoy more sailing days. But I think the best advice is to talk to your sailmaker and have an overall plan designed for your type of sailing.
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