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Post by Claude Auclair on Oct 23, 2009 13:24:36 GMT
Hello,
Just want to know if someone here have photos or experience with standard keel vs performance keel on a Jeanneau 39 DS or on other model?
Just order a 39ds performance with the standard keel and see after the performance keel as only 8" more in length and 400lbs less so why not the performance keel?
Is it similar with same design and same strength?
Is it a lot faster?
Is it a big problem at 7'3" instead of 6'7" for the standard keel?
Photos?
Anybody, I need information asap if I want to make change on my order!
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Post by krawall on Oct 24, 2009 3:00:23 GMT
Hi,
can't really comment on a 39DS and obviously you will know where you cruise so you know if the draft of 6'7" already presents a problem - if not, then increase to 7'3" will not make it any worse.
Sailing performance will be much better. (She's lighter, has more stability goes better to windward, ie point higher, broach less)
We chose the performance keel on ours and honestly if I have 8 inches of water left, I'm not going there, no matter what keel i have. (for us the difference was 15cm which is even less, of course)
But I'm happy with the sailing performance and we're basically competing with boats one size up (we have 36 feet and usually have no problem keeping up with 40 footers - Beneteaus, Hanses)
Tom
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Post by Black Diamond on Oct 25, 2009 20:37:38 GMT
I have a 39i Performance boat kept in Lake Ontario Canada, except we went with the standard keel, 6' 6" keel with large bulb. We choose the slightly shallower draft to get into various harbours, and cruising in the Bahamas. There are harbours you won't be getting into that foot will make a difference, and anchouring will mean at times you will have to anchor 30 to 50 feet or more from shore in the Bahamas. The other consideration, I might be wrong here, but With the fin keel, less the large bulb, you will need more people on the rail to keep her flat. Check our our blog for more details, we race, and cruise www.radonic.wordpress.com |
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Post by Claude Auclair on Oct 25, 2009 22:04:10 GMT
I have a 39i Performance boat kept in Lake Ontario Canada, except we went with the standard keel, 6' 6" keel with large bulb. We choose the slightly shallower draft to get into various harbours, and cruising in the Bahamas. There are harbours you won't be getting into that foot will make a difference, and anchouring will mean at times you will have to anchor 30 to 50 feet or more from shore in the Bahamas. Great! At last, someone with a Jeanneau performance sailboat... Do you like all options within the Performance package? - Feathering blade? - Main sail? - Genoa Sail? - Performance mast? - Other stuff? For the keel, you are right on for the standard keel. LOTS of experience people said it will not make a big difference with the performance keel and add lower resale value and problem in the south sea. The performance keel is thinner, longer and smaller bulb but still made of iron and only 8" deeper so that will not make my boat much more efficient I believe. Shoal reef keel is the one not to choose because of the low performance... If I have problem with lower water, I will put a lead bulb on a shorter fin, that’s all! |
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Post by Black Diamond on Oct 30, 2009 5:12:31 GMT
Love everything about the boat, great for cruising, great for racing. The boat is perfectly set up for ocean racing, big water, winds 15+ knots. In the light stuff on Lake Ontario, I wish I had a larger jib, like Genoa. Having difficulty installing one, due to the lead sheets going between the inner and outter shroud. There fore can't put a large sail on due to the spreaders. I could run them out side the spreaders, will have to install another track. I'll need to contact the designer and find out where is best to install it for strength. Won't have as good pointing because it will run on the out side. If you are looking for a cruiser/racer, its an amazing boat. My blog, www.radonic.wordpress.com |
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Post by Claude Auclair on Jan 26, 2010 5:00:24 GMT
Just can't wait anymore to see my new boat, two more months of waiting!
I check your boat photos on your web site and I'm interested in your anti-fouling paint, look very clean and performance oriented? Can you tell me what paint you use and also if you use a water barrier underneath the anti-fouling, like an Interprotec?
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Post by renegade27 on Jan 26, 2010 10:46:38 GMT
Simple answer - buy the deepest keel your intended waters will accommodate! Our harbor can do 6' max so I'm with a shoal draft - 4'9". Size DOES matter!
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Post by Don Reaves on Jan 26, 2010 10:59:57 GMT
A barrier coat is highly recommended. It will pay off in the long run in terms of less maintenance and greater resistance to blistering. A good choice of bottom paint is entirely dependent on where you intend to keep your boat. I keep my boat on the Great Lakes and use VC17m. It's smooth, easy to apply, and does a good job. But it is not recommended for salt water. Take a look at www.practical-sailor.com to see what might be a good choice for your area. They periodically review bottom paints, and have lots of information on them. Good Luck! Don |
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Post by rene on Jan 26, 2010 18:02:49 GMT
Hi,
A deeper keel usually sails better: the performance diagrams for the different keels will show that. Racing sailboats have deep keels. The question is, how often do you sail regatta's?
On a barrier coat: in the beginning the hull is still releasing solvents from the manufacturing process. It is better to wait 2 or 3 years before applying a barrier coat. A friend with a SO37 did it right away and now the barrier coat has to be removed as it developed bumps (blister look alikes) from the released gasses trapped within the barrier coat (at the dealers expense).
Hope this helps,
Rene
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