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Post by jowa on Mar 8, 2023 18:50:16 GMT
Hello, we are looking for a used Jeanneau Odyssey 43 DS for sale. The location of the boat should be somewhere in Europe. North Sea and Baltic Sea preferred. Some specifications we are looking for: - 2/3 cabin version (4 berths in front)
- well maintained
- mast without roll system
If there is any offer which suites our discription, please let us know
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Post by rob57 on Mar 13, 2023 22:15:57 GMT
hi Jowa,
Ours is not for sale but I wouldn't be put off by in-mast furling: I had the same preference for slab reefing when looking for our boat in 2016 (she's a 2001 model which has crossed the Atlantic and sailed from UK to Greece where she now lives). People pointed out to me that most Oyster yachts and many others use in-mast so not to think of it as a gimmick. I have found it great to use. You can reef to any amount you want, not just pre-set 1,2, or 3 reefing points with slab reefing, and when single handed it really helps a lot. No need to go froward and fiddle with lines, cringles etc. Like all things, correct operation helps, and maintenance of course.
I hope you find a suitable boat (we'll prob sell ours in 2-3 years time but have too much fun to part with her now!)
Also, we have the owners version with the huge stern cabin. This was great when living aboard for the year in 2017. When sailing with couples we effectively have three double berths with the stern, saloon, and forward cabins (the bunks on f'wd st'bd are small and we use for storage). However, it would be useful to have the partitions for the stern cabin when 4 blokes want to sail together.
They are great boats. Enjoy. Robin
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Post by saltymetals on Mar 14, 2023 3:23:57 GMT
Jowa I agree w Rob about in-mast furling for the main. In fact I went one step further when I bought new sales for my boat and have not only a foam luff on my 150% Genoa but also vertical battens on my main. The surface area of my main is in fact 8% larger (41sq m) than the classic horizontal battened main (38sq m). Certainly shape and performance is better than in mast furling w no battens which is also smaller (34 sq m). Certainly in mast furling is much easier when short-handed or solo and my new main has never, ever, jammed. If you buy a 43ds which is prior 2004 check the support block under the mast compression post. If this has got wet it starts to collapse causing leaking saloon windows and inability to maintain correct standing rigging tension. It can be fixed but get a quote for the work. Mast has to be removed. Plenty of info in the 43ds Model Specific section which I asked the Forum to set up. Best of luck in your search. Most owners love the model so much that they are not going to sell but certainly a web search will discover a few for sale.
Rob, Pls refer to my thread on the 43ds Model Specific section. I have the 43ds (2004) which has removable panels so a design engineer (sailing friend) measured them and all details are on the specific thread. He set up a program which is machine-readable in a typical woodworking operation. Andrew "Genial Bee"
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Post by jowa on Mar 15, 2023 12:56:26 GMT
Hi Robin and Andrew, thank you very much for your answers. The issue with the base under the mast support has fortunately also become aware to me here through the forum. I will pay attention to it during my (hopefully soon) following visits. On the subject of furling mainsail ... On the one hand, for me is indeed the sail performance aspect that a classic mainsail with horizontal battens brings. On the other hand, as you also write, there are now also very good vertically battened mainsails for furling. However, these are much more expensive, which is why this is also a decisive factor in the choice. I have not yet tried reefing with a furling main myself. So far, I have always managed quite well with standard reefing mainsail and 2-3 reefing positions on my boats. With a single-line reefing system, it also works well for two people or even alone if necessary. It is safer with the furling mast. I agree with that. But only as long as the furling system works well. I'm interested to see if there will be any interesting offers on the market this year. More important for us is the technical condition and the interior layout. That with the mast system is rather a preference
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Post by rob57 on Mar 16, 2023 15:01:45 GMT
Just a quick follow up Jowa; my boat (2001) had indeed suffered from the mast compression problem, albeit with the previous owner. He sailed the Atlantic (2010) and then found that there were water drips from the window surrounds. The other sign is if the shroud turnbuckles need tightening from time to time which shows there is slackness in the wires.
Anyway, he had it fixed and 13 years later we have not had any problems at all (we've owned her for 7 years now and sailed 10,000 miles) so if a boat has/had this problem it has been dealt with then all should be good. When we sailed her from the UK to Greece we met people on the way with other makes of newer boats, or even brand new, which had had various problems from engines, leaks, and other things, so it seemed to me that all boats can have faults but they are mostly very fixable.
Andrew: thanks for that recommendation re the partitions. I will have a look. Rob 'Mariposa'
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Post by ales on Mar 26, 2023 14:44:19 GMT
I am owner of 43ds for 15years now. There is no other model I would buy. Perfect boat.
Side windows leak is usually caused by the age od the material and it is not directly related with mast base problems. My is y. 2002 I do not have such problem (with mast base) But I plan to change rigging and then I will take the mast down and check both bases.
Hope you’ll find yours
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Post by jowa on Mar 28, 2023 0:43:48 GMT
I am owner of 43ds for 15years now. There is no other model I would buy. Perfect boat. Side windows leak is usually caused by the age od the material and it is not directly related with mast base problems. My is y. 2002 I do not have such problem (with mast base) But I plan to change rigging and then I will take the mast down and check both bases. Hope you’ll find yours Dear Ales. Thank you for your review! we will see when we also come in the "group".
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