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Post by caiovito on Jan 25, 2022 10:37:32 GMT
Hello everyone I am Claudio from Italy, now a sailor on a 470 dinghy and a lover of the sea, even if I live in the middle of the Alps. I am not yet the owner of a So 43 DS, but it is a dream for when I will retire. In the meantime, I've been using some free time to design some rear equipments for that sailboat. Here is the link to see a rendering of my work: photos.app.goo.gl/zHstLG3iyWQRPzt17will be appreciate comments and suggestion If someone will be interested, the project is for free, and i will send it with pleasure, but first i need some one that give me where to find the real measurement of the rear of the boat, because until now , i have derive them from little pictures finded on the web, and i know that i need more precision to validate this idea. sorry for my terrible english and have a nice time |
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Post by Chris Meyer on Jan 25, 2022 12:18:31 GMT
Your english is perfect and far better than my Italian!
Great ideas. I especially like the boarding ladder concept.
I hope that Jeanneau designs can work with you!
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Post by caiovito on Jan 26, 2022 10:13:42 GMT
Your english is perfect and far better than my Italian! Great ideas. I especially like the boarding ladder concept. I hope that Jeanneau designs can work with you! Hi Chris, many thanks for Your support !! |
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Post by alenka on Jan 30, 2022 15:38:58 GMT
Hi Caiovito,
I think your concepts are very good.
The ladder / passarele could work well on the 43DS, the only comment I would make is to allow it to swing left/right. We always manage to park with an electricity box in the way and if the boat swings we give it a whack!
The hydro gen is a good idea. I will post the link to your video on another site that is discussing electric propulsion and how to recharge the batteries when under sail.
If no one else has supplied you with the measurements by May I will send them to you when I next step aboard.
Good Luck with your design and your future boat purchase.
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Post by rxc on Jan 31, 2022 16:30:16 GMT
Claudio,
Hi there. Nice concepts and great rendering. Which dimensions do you want? I am about to go down to my boat in a few minutes (it is behind the house), and can measure stuff for you.
I would really like to have a better boarding ladder than the one that came with the boat. First of all, it is a bit short, and could use a few more rungs in the water. Second, I have tied a slip knot with a dangling line so that I think I could pull it down, if I happen to fall into the water. Something better than a slip knot would be nice. Your idea looks like it would be deeper, which is a good thing.
Hoever, I see two important disadvantages to your proposal. First, many of us have dinghies, and an arch or dinghy davits on the stern to hold the dinghy. Your platform would have to be able to deal with a 3 meter dinghy hanging on it or above it.
Second, your platform makes it impossible for someone who falls into the water to get back into the boat. The current ladder is far from perfect, but it does not act as a barrier.
Third comment about the water generator. They are great while the boat is moving, but do not generate any power if you are at anchor or in a marina. These boats spend a LOT of time not moving thru the water, so it is not clear whether a hydrogenerator would be better than a windmill + solar. Especially if you have someplace like an arch to mount them, and hold the dinghy.
If you want dimensions, let me know and I will measure them for you.
Ralph Caruso
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Post by alenka on Jan 31, 2022 17:22:05 GMT
Ralph,
For boats anchored/moored in places with large tidal changes or in estuaries a hydrogen might be more reliable that a windmill!
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Post by caiovito on Jan 31, 2022 23:14:47 GMT
Hi Alenka , Hi Ralph( rxc)
i am so excited for Your answers , comments and important suggestions, and not second for your disponibility to give me the right measures to convalidate the idea.
About this i have to say you that last saturday i have visited one SO 43 Ds on sell market near my home on Garda lake, and here the owner permetted me to get a set of misure that i will verify on the design.
But if i forgot some dimensions, for me will a pleasure use Your disponibility in the next future.
Now i will try to answer to your comments and suggestions:
Alenka: to make a swing passerele do not permit to use the item like a ladder for the water, but your suggestion gave me an idea to mont the passerele left or right on the tilting plane with a double fast fixing
I know how the murphy law works on the powersupply box in marina, it is always like the jam on the bread when it fall down.
Ralph:
second suggestion ( fall down in the water). I will apply some handles outside of the tilting plane and also a little box with inside a emergency rope long enough to put in a foot and by the handles to comeback on board. ( Safety is never enough)
Third suggestion: For sure, i will have a solar panels power supply on the rear support, and it strong enough to make a crane for the dinghy for the medium passages , ( on long passage i prefer to have the dinghy near the mast). The rear solar support / dinghy davits is a work in progress, and when it will be ready for a next rendering , will be a plasure to get again your comments and suggestions.
Hydrogenerator will be only for long or medium passages, i hope able to give enough power for autopilot use. ( this is the challenge)
i had sailing for over 30 years by friends boats or rent boats, but never i used the " windmill" . The only thing that i know is they are quite noisy, and when you stay in relax on a sunshine afternoon , the last thing you want is noise.
About that, i will wait suggestions if new models are able to avoid this effect.
Many many thanks for Your time spent to answer me. i am so glad about it.
i will hope to meet you in real on the sea in the next future!
have a nice time
Claudio
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Post by caiovito on Feb 11, 2022 16:36:10 GMT
Claudio, Hi there. Nice concepts and great rendering. Which dimensions do you want? I am about to go down to my boat in a few minutes (it is behind the house), and can measure stuff for you. I would really like to have a better boarding ladder than the one that came with the boat. First of all, it is a bit short, and could use a few more rungs in the water. Second, I have tied a slip knot with a dangling line so that I think I could pull it down, if I happen to fall into the water. Something better than a slip knot would be nice. Your idea looks like it would be deeper, which is a good thing. Hoever, I see two important disadvantages to your proposal. First, many of us have dinghies, and an arch or dinghy davits on the stern to hold the dinghy. Your platform would have to be able to deal with a 3 meter dinghy hanging on it or above it. Second, your platform makes it impossible for someone who falls into the water to get back into the boat. The current ladder is far from perfect, but it does not act as a barrier. Third comment about the water generator. They are great while the boat is moving, but do not generate any power if you are at anchor or in a marina. These boats spend a LOT of time not moving thru the water, so it is not clear whether a hydrogenerator would be better than a windmill + solar. Especially if you have someplace like an arch to mount them, and hold the dinghy. If you want dimensions, let me know and I will measure them for you. Ralph Caruso Hi Ralph One week ago i have sent to you on Jeanneau owners, a private message. You are totally free do not answer me, but i hope You have not read it yet. i will wait your answer. Have a nice time Claudio |
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Post by andreshs1 on Feb 12, 2022 10:37:53 GMT
Hi Claudio
love the idea!
question, have you considered also adding fittings for a windvane?
Cheers
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Post by caiovito on Feb 18, 2022 10:19:58 GMT
Hi Claudio love the idea! question, have you considered also adding fittings for a windvane? Cheers Hi andreshs1 Sorry for my delay time to answer you. Your question is interesting, and i know that my design do not permit the use of windvane. My goal will be that the hydrogenerator make enough power for use of autopilot in continous mode without drain battery power, so windvane will be not necessary. About this my theory i will wait comments and suggestion from everyone has experience. Have fair wind Claudio |
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Post by saltymetals on Apr 10, 2022 10:47:38 GMT
Bravo Claudio !
An excellent description of a folding platform. I already have a transom arch which includes 150W Solbian solar and a Rutland 1200 windgen (v quiet) from Marlec UK on my 2004 43DS. This also takes my 2.70m Zodiac tender which would be above yr panel idea since once raised the lower edge of the Zodiac is about level with the lower stainless bar of the pushpit. I have lots of photos but it is complicated to add so many in this thread. Send me yr email addr and i will send you a PM.
Where are you based (Lago do Garda?). My boat is based in Bari if you ever happen to be nearby but usually June-Sept in Croatia.
Andrew
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Post by Trevor on Apr 10, 2022 10:58:48 GMT
Hi Claudio,
I really loved watching your video of your proposals. You are very skilled at the 3D representation of your ideas. Good luck with the dream of owning a 43DS, they are a great boat.
Trevor
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Post by caiovito on Apr 15, 2022 12:34:30 GMT
Bravo Claudio ! An excellent description of a folding platform. I already have a transom arch which includes 150W Solbian solar and a Rutland 1200 windgen (v quiet) from Marlec UK on my 2004 43DS. This also takes my 2.70m Zodiac tender which would be above yr panel idea since once raised the lower edge of the Zodiac is about level with the lower stainless bar of the pushpit. I have lots of photos but it is complicated to add so many in this thread. Send me yr email addr and i will send you a PM. Where are you based (Lago do Garda?). My boat is based in Bari if you ever happen to be nearby but usually June-Sept in Croatia. Andrew Hello Andrew many thanks for your answers and your support. Here is my email adress cestari@fbk.eu , if you let me see how you solved on your boat, it will be great for improve my solutions i will be in croatia next 7- 14 of may , i will sail by a So43 Ds rented, starting of murter island a classic tour of Kornati islands. probably in july with a friends boat i will be in puglia, but i do not know the date yet. have fairs wind and nice time Claudio |
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Post by caiovito on Apr 15, 2022 12:39:12 GMT
Hi Claudio, I really loved watching your video of your proposals. You are very skilled at the 3D representation of your ideas. Good luck with the dream of owning a 43DS, they are a great boat. Trevor Hello Trevor many thanks for your answers and your support. It is a pleasure hear your comments and support my dreams. have fairs wind and nice time Claudio |
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Post by capng on Apr 16, 2022 21:53:32 GMT
Hi Claudio
When buying a SO 43DS be very carefull to check the operation of the heads sea cocks. The large diamater type they used with the holding tank versions can get very difficult to move over time and access to remove/change them is challenging. Ours was an excellent cruising boat with loads of storage and easy access to everything else. Hope everything goes to plan for you.
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Post by tsenator on Feb 7, 2023 17:56:06 GMT
Hi Caiovito,
Just saw this -- I think its wonderful ! I'm not sure I'd need the water generator but the extended swim platform and ladder looks awesome. I would love to have something like this. If there was a kit I could purchase I would consider it !
Fair Winds
Tom
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Post by MalcolmP on Feb 7, 2023 19:15:29 GMT
Hi Caiovito
Wonderful rendering of your ideas, the bathing platform and integrated passerelle is ace!
Good luck with your project and finding a good 43DS
Cheers Malcolm
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Post by caiovito on Sept 13, 2023 12:09:41 GMT
Hi Caiovito, Just saw this -- I think its wonderful ! I'm not sure I'd need the water generator but the extended swim platform and ladder looks awesome. I would love to have something like this. If there was a kit I could purchase I would consider it ! Fair Winds Tom Hi Tom, sorry for my huge delay time answering you. the building of the entire project in in a good position for seeing the end, but the boat ( my boat) is still away..... So your condition of possibily purchase makes me exited. actually there is only one prototype built, and i still hope that my entire project will see the end, but if will you need the files of the entire 3d project , it will be possible to share with you , and it will make me happy. fair wind and nice time claudio |
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Post by caiovito on Sept 13, 2023 12:11:34 GMT
Hi Caiovito Wonderful rendering of your ideas, the bathing platform and integrated passerelle is ace! Good luck with your project and finding a good 43DS Cheers Malcolm hi Malcolm, sorry for my huge delay time answering you. Many thanks for your support fair wind and good time claudio |
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Post by caiovito on Sept 13, 2023 12:22:23 GMT
Hello Everyone
If someone of You owner of 43DS could help me , i would like to know the diemeter measure of the pipes used to build the stern rail of the 43DS. second question : is the orrizontal midle pipe diameter the same like the upper pipe?
Thanks in advance who will help me
Claudio
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Post by saltymetals on Sept 13, 2023 15:55:06 GMT
Claudio,
Bothe the upper and lower tubes are the same diameter (25.25mm). I sent you a direct email with some pics. If you need anything else in the next couple of weeks i am on my boat.
By the way, did we not meet in Ubli/Lastovo 1-2 years ago when you were on a friend's boat and doing the check IN/OUT at the Police quay?
Hv you still not found a good 43ds to buy? Wonderful boats, as you will have understood from the enthusiastic comments in this Group.
Andrew
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Post by saltymetals on Sept 13, 2023 15:56:39 GMT
25.25mm diam, both tubes are the same.
Andrew
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