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Post by jimmyz on Jun 20, 2021 19:03:53 GMT
Hello Jeanneau Team,
My wife and I are planning to order a new 2022 NC 895 Weekender, but was hoping one of the veterans on this site could help me out about the full 'wet' weight. I plan to put her on my 2 year old Hi -Tide lift that has a 12,000lb capacity. I called the Hi-Tide lift manufacturer and they said she should come in right around 12K lbs fully loaded, but that does not account for any passengers on the boat when lifted. I feel this was an overly conservative estimate on their part as they estimate just the motors at 2K lbs with all fluids. My order will have Merc 225s (x2) at 475lbs dry weight, and Im also ordering a generator and AC.
Question - what are your thoughts on the fully loaded wet with all tanks full, + gear and equipment. Do I need to think of switching to a 16,000 lb lift before delivery?
Also curious on your thoughts on Beneteau Antares - what made you choose Jeanneau over Beneteau?
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Post by sapient on Jun 20, 2021 19:25:09 GMT
Also curious on your thoughts on Beneteau Antares - what made you choose Jeanneau over Beneteau? <<
When I sea trialed the Antares 9, its stepped hull design seems to handle the choppy water better at above average speed than Jeanneau. But it is not a deep V design like Sargo or Axopar. Antares models do have some rear visibility issues and the interior space utilization is not as efficient as Jeanneau models.
Both outboard powered Jeanneau and Beneteau are good lake and river boat, plus offshore in calm weather with twin engine configuration. If this is your use case, either can fit the bill, it is more or less a personal preference.
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Post by westboating on Jul 19, 2021 4:41:29 GMT
So, the weight issue. Our boat as dry as we could get it was about 9,800 - 10,200. We weighed her with near empty tanks and drained water. She was on the trailer, so there's the uncertainty. I have the NC 895 (not sport) with the twin 200s. We didn't take gear of the boat so that's an modestly equipped boat. With another 110 gal of gas and water, you could easily get her up to 11,000 lbs. Now swap the 200s for a pair of 225s. Looking at Yamaha's page, they could be as much as 30lbs heavier or the exact same weight. So, worst case 60lbs heavier. So you're really at 11,500 ish. I'm guessing the 12k lift isn't going to explode at 12,001lbs, so I would try it. The lift's limit is structural or power, most likely power. If so, you might burn out the motor sooner, but structural design limit load factors should allow you to go over weight by quite a bit.
As for our boat weight we towed it with the F150 with a towing capacity of 11,500 (the boat and trailer were 100lbs over weight) and it worked fine, but the total weight of the truck trailer and boat was probably a bit over the limit. Towed last year with a 3/4 ton F250 and other than a minor turbo leak it worked fine. She is heavier than the manufacturer said she would, but it worked.
Good luck
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Post by westboating on Jul 19, 2021 4:59:40 GMT
Also curious on your thoughts on Beneteau Antares - what made you choose Jeanneau over Beneteau? << When I sea trialed the Antares 9, its stepped hull design seems to handle the choppy water better at above average speed than Jeanneau. But it is not a deep V design like Sargo or Axopar. Antares models do have some rear visibility issues and the interior space utilization is not as efficient as Jeanneau models. Both outboard powered Jeanneau and Beneteau are good lake and river boat, plus offshore in calm weather with twin engine configuration. If this is your use case, either can fit the bill, it is more or less a personal preference. So your question is a bit off the original topic, but the Jeanneau has better viability all the way around both boats are designed by the same design group. I'd like to see if one weighs more than the other. I've had the 895 in some rough weather (on the river of all places, by no means a safe haven with 4-5' seas wind opposed current). She cut through it well, but we were going with the swell. It's a 30' planning hull so it's not going to cut it like a heavy trawler. I doubt the extremely similar Antares performs much different even if the Antares 9 is a hair shorter.
If you're over 5'9" the view from the helm will annoy you on the Antares as you'll have to duck down to look under the low hanging cabin top.
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