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Post by zaphod on Jan 30, 2021 18:18:59 GMT
Zaphod's stern tie mention (it sounds as though we sail in the same waters) reminded me of a tweak that's been very handy on our boat, is possible if you don't care to carry a life raft in the official life raft locker. Axle on two open stainless pole hangers supports 600' (183m) of line, hanger apertures angled aft so that too much tension (incorrectly) applied to the reel and axle will result in the assembly jumping out rather than tearing off (on balance seems preferable even though it may leave the reel swimming). The axle is a wood dowel appropriately treated with a piece of pvc electrical conduit slipped over it for low reel friction, the conduit being quite slippery in combination with the plastic reel. The conduit is segmented with butt splices confining the reel, so that it doesn't wander and jam against sides of locker when spooling out. Easily removed and stowed, if the entire locker is needed for something bulky. This tows out nicely, eliminates shenanigans with supporting the reel on a mop handle etc. (our previous method, via u-brackets on transom gate stanchions). Winding back is a matter of sitting on the transom step and some patience, of course. I've a crank and spooling guide affair in mind but as usual it's a matter of finding time to noodle, cut and try a bit. Yes, our home waters are very close to yours. The stern tie pic is in Prideaux Haven, Desolation Sound. We don't carry a life raft, so that locker is handy for a lot of different things. When we go on long trips I carry extra diesel, outboard fuel and various other things in there. It is also a handy place for snorkeling gear etc. We have a stainless steel stern line reel with 450ft of floatline that hangs on the pushpit. When we don't need it we stow it in the liferaft locker. We also discovered that it is a handy place for a keg of beer and a lot of ice when we do our annual outstation race!
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Post by dbostrom on Jan 30, 2021 23:21:33 GMT
Ooh, nice!
I could picture a permanently mounted tap alongside the shower outlet. Or maybe a Y-valve, so that the shower hose will dispense beer?
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Post by element on Feb 2, 2021 19:44:45 GMT
Fun to read that a post about anchor equipment and mounting ladder migrated to beer taps. Back to improvements for our 39iP. This time it is about solar panels. When we will be sailing or anchoring for a longer period, solar will be the main source to keep our batteries charged. The previous owner already installed a 50-watt panel on the sprayhood. In addition, I have installed 4x110 watt solar panels at the guard rail. If we were live aboards, we would probably install an arch to mount solar, but although practically, we find an arch a bit ugly and does not fit well with the character of a 39i Performance. This project started by installing mounting tubes between the stanchions. These are the same 25mm (1 inch) tubes which are used for sprayhoods and biminis. The panels are mounted on these tubes with perfect but not cheap NOA fittings. This enables us to swivel the panels so they can catch the most of the sun. Next task was to drill holes though the deck (which I hate to do) and guide the electrical cables inside towards the compartment with the battery switches under the starboard aft cockpit bed. Finally, I installed two Victron MPPT’s. One MPPT for the panels front and one for the panels aft. The idea is to have some redundancy in case one set will not work anymore. It is almost mesmerizing to watch on the Victron app on our phone or iPad how the watts flow into the batteries.
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Post by zaphod on Feb 2, 2021 20:39:21 GMT
I am in the process of installing solar as well. I bought 1 160w flexible panel last summer, and the Victron charge controller. I love the Victron stuff! Being able to see energy production in real time as well as historic graphs is an excellent tool. My wife was giving me grief about how much time I was spending checking solar controller and battery monitor data! I temporarily installed the panel on the dodger, (aka spray hood), and it worked pretty well as long as we were at the dock and I could keep the shadow of the boom off it, but power production suffered if we were on the hook and the boat was kiting around as it seems to like to do. Aside from that, I was pretty happy with the performance of the panel, so I decided to buy a second one. Since we have come to the realization that we like having the bimini deployed to give us shelter from sun and rain I decided that I would take advantage of that large surface area and mount both panels up there where they will be out from under the boom. I haven't decided how to mount them yet, but I am leaning towards velcro. I have yet to wire in both panels and test them. That will be happening this spring. Element, one big concern I would have with your rigid panel arrangement is the huge potential to foul spinnaker sheets. Do you fly a spinnaker? What have you done to mitigate that problem?
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Post by element on Feb 4, 2021 18:54:29 GMT
I temporarily installed the panel on the dodger, (aka spray hood), and it worked pretty well as long as we were at the dock and I could keep the shadow of the boom off it, but power production suffered if we were on the hook and the boat was kiting around as it seems to like to do. Aside from that, I was pretty happy with the performance of the panel, so I decided to buy a second one. Since we have come to the realization that we like having the bimini deployed to give us shelter from sun and rain I decided that I would take advantage of that large surface area and mount both panels up there where they will be out from under the boom. I haven't decided how to mount them yet, but I am leaning towards velcro. I have yet to wire in both panels and test them. That will be happening this spring. Element, one big concern I would have with your rigid panel arrangement is the huge potential to foul spinnaker sheets. Do you fly a spinnaker? What have you done to mitigate that problem? We will get a bimini deployed as well when our big trip starts over a couple of years. So if 460 watt capacity will not be sufficient during the big trip, we can always add more panels on the bimini. Regarding panel arrangement and fouling spinnaker sheets, we do fly a 120 m2 assymetric on Element. We only used the genny a handful times during the first season we have her. Due to Covid we did less miles then we normally do in a season. So far it has not given any problems. Mostly we only attach only one sheet, and the leeward sheet does not give any problems. We had a symmetric spinnaker on our previous boat were we also had panels at the sides. He we used barberhaules to guide the windward sheet before the panels (and of course to get a better sheeting angle for the spinnaker boom). It helped as well to tilt the windward panel horizontally to prevent any issues. So no problems whilst cruising. If I would race her around the buoys however, I would temporally remove the panels, which costs only a few seconds to do so.
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Post by element on Feb 7, 2021 13:33:04 GMT
It is snowing outside and will be below zero of at least 10 days in the Netherlands, which is very unusual last 20 years in the Netherlands. Gives me time for an update, this time mainly about smaller improvements inside. Removable Inner forestayThis feature to easily set a heavy-weather jib or even stom jib is already described in this post. USB sockets
In modern times, you can never have too many USB charging points to charge power-hungry devices like I-Phones, I-Pads, Apple Watches, camera’s, flashlights and power banks. So, I installed five double USB sockets. One at the card table, two in the aft cabin and two in the forward cabin. I specially ordered sockets 2.1 amps output which is required for I-phones and I-pads nowadays. We had already 2 cigarette 12 volts sockets in the cockpit. I bought also a removable double car socket charger so we can even in the cockpit power our devices. LED lighting
The 39i boat has lights everywhere. Three in the front cabin, Ten (!) in the saloon/galley, three in the heads/shower and three in the aft cabin. The original lights were around 10 watts each. Some lights in the saloon were already replaced by LED by the previous owner, but there were plenty left to be replaced by LED. These lights only consume 0.6 - 1 watt each which will make it easier to be autonomous at anchor or during multi-night passages. Another advantage is that led lights hardly get warm because they are so efficient. Handholds
Bigger and more modern boats are quite beamy which gives plenty of stability and living space inside. The downside is that wide interiors can be dangerous in bumpy seas if you can’t brace yourselves. For now we mounted a handhold near the head and one on the galley so we can safely walk from the entrance to the seating area in the cabin. Time will tell if we need to add more on other places. Lee clothes/cabin bunk beds
To convert the saloon banks to safe sea berths, I installed removable lee clothes. And although the port settee is long enough to have a nap, I made an extension to sleep more comfortably even if you are very tall.
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Post by zaphod on Feb 7, 2021 19:11:57 GMT
Definitely the led bulb upgrade is the "low hanging fruit" of energy management. As soon as I felt how hot the original halogen bulbs got I knew they were energy hogs. I believe it was the very first upgrade I did. Even so, I find the light fixture locations, and the quality of lighting they provide is not the greatest. One upgrade I am considering is the addition of led strip light running the length of the grab rails on each side of the cabin. That way they will cast light up onto the cabin ceiling and create a soft ambient lighting. Ideally the LED lighting would be RGB so you could change the ambient lighting to red while under way at night. I am just in the process of researching my options and determining power consumption. We also found the reading lights in the v-berth to be pretty much useless because the light is coming from the side. That makes it hard to light up a book without shining light on a sleeping partner. We got some nice goose neck led lights from Amazon that are great, albeit a bit pricey. They are dimable and have built in night lights.
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Post by dbostrom on Feb 7, 2021 19:32:38 GMT
I like the non-trousers-snagging handles on Element's doors. Ours are of a different style, snaggy. Element, it would be fun to see a full shot of your saloon. What year was your boat built? To me it looks as though further "cost containment" happened over the run. And USB outlets everywhere, yes! Along with ripping up and sorting out some of the scantier parts the electrical system before we ever sailed our boat, this was a priority. Inspired by a trip on a charter boat with 4 teenagers and their plethora of "devices," the silent but intense competition to recharge, the hideous tangle of Y-adapters connecting to more Y-adapters. Never again.
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Post by zaphod on Feb 7, 2021 19:35:28 GMT
I also installed USB outlets in the cockpit table. We spend so much time in the cockpit it is nice to have somewhere to plug in our devices, particularly since we use a tablet and navionics while under way. I didn't want to eliminate the lighter plug, so I got a combination lighter socket/USB outlet fixture. (Iknow, I know....mismatched screws!)
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Post by zaphod on Feb 8, 2021 2:04:33 GMT
I like the non-trousers-snagging handles on Element's doors. Ours are of a different style, snaggy. Element, it would be fun to see a full shot of your saloon. What year was your boat built? To me it looks as though further "cost containment" happened over the run. And USB outlets everywhere, yes! Along with ripping up and sorting out some of the scantier parts the electrical system before we ever sailed our boat, this was a priority. Inspired by a trip on a charter boat with 4 teenagers and their plethora of "devices," the silent but intense competition to recharge, the hideous tangle of Y-adapters connecting to more Y-adapters. Never again. What "cost containment" items do you think happened? I doubt the different door handles were an effort to cut costs, it is more likely they were just a supply chain issue. It could be just be a matter or where each boat was built. I am also interested in comparing the differences in interiors across the production years. Our boat must be one of the last ones built, because it is officially a 2011 model, (according to the hull number and the boatyard documentation). Here are some pics of our interior. We have the optional drop leaf salon table with wine bottle storage in the centre, and another compartment at the bottom of the pedestal. It is definitely nice for dinner parties. If you drop the starboard leaf down there are support brackets and a board that flip up, and a filler cushion to make it a wider bed. The table will then act like a lee cloth, making it useful while sailing. (Not that we ever do overnight sailing). The table was not all that well built and the weight of the leaves was pulling the sides of the central pedestal apart because the screws didn't quite grab the edge of the wood properly. That was simple enough to reinforce using ss reddi rod and vinyl lifeline cover to bolt the 2 sides together. Now it is nice and solid! Also notice, our boat has a large leather wrapped stainless grab rail beside the nav station where Element added one. I don't know if that was standard equipment or was added by the previous owner.
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Post by dbostrom on Feb 8, 2021 2:40:17 GMT
Certain features of the cabinetry and other woodwork on Element's build make me wonder about $CC, Zaphod. The little bit of locker in saloon starboard that is visible, the arched doorway of the aft head, the wood overhead beneath the outboard starboard deck. It's all reflective of a bit more tooling usage, a few more minutes of time per copy made, etc.
Bits and pieces.
Bear in mind, to me it's admirable that Jeanneau weathered the financial collapse just before our two boats were built, wasn't ditched in duress as a name akin to what GM did with Pontiac etc., by Beneteau Group. I can picture some people being asked "think very hard: how can we shave just a bit of cost out of this?" Nothing wrong with that!
Your boat's grab rail forward of the aft head door is identical to ours. I'm very fond of it. With the exception of the aft head (three cabin here) your copy is identical to ours, as far as I can tell.
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Post by zaphod on Feb 8, 2021 5:47:26 GMT
Certain features of the cabinetry and other woodwork on Element's build make me wonder about $CC, Zaphod. The little bit of locker in saloon starboard that is visible, the arched doorway of the aft head, the wood overhead beneath the outboard starboard deck. It's all reflective of a bit more tooling usage, a few more minutes of time per copy made, etc. Bits and pieces. Bear in mind, to me it's admirable that Jeanneau weathered the financial collapse just before our two boats were built, wasn't ditched in duress as a name akin to what GM did with Pontiac etc., by Beneteau Group. I can picture some people being asked "think very hard: how can we shave just a bit of cost out of this?" Nothing wrong with that! Your boat's grab rail forward of the aft head door is identical to ours. I'm very fond of it. With the exception of the aft head (three cabin here) your copy is identical to ours, as far as I can tell. I just realized the cabinets along the starboard side are much taller than ours, but do not run the full length, whereas ours are lower but continue right to the bulkhead. That's a significant difference. Larger cabinets would be nice. Edit: I just scanned through all the listings on Yachtworld and it looks like the the change in cabinetry happened around 2008. Some '08s still have the older style. I don't know if the change would have been cost saving since the newer style actually creates more cabinets albeit smaller and simpler. The new cabinets seem to make the interior look brighter and more open.
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Post by dbostrom on Feb 9, 2021 2:10:17 GMT
Certain features of the cabinetry and other woodwork on Element's build make me wonder about $CC, Zaphod. The little bit of locker in saloon starboard that is visible, the arched doorway of the aft head, the wood overhead beneath the outboard starboard deck. It's all reflective of a bit more tooling usage, a few more minutes of time per copy made, etc. Bits and pieces. Bear in mind, to me it's admirable that Jeanneau weathered the financial collapse just before our two boats were built, wasn't ditched in duress as a name akin to what GM did with Pontiac etc., by Beneteau Group. I can picture some people being asked "think very hard: how can we shave just a bit of cost out of this?" Nothing wrong with that! Your boat's grab rail forward of the aft head door is identical to ours. I'm very fond of it. With the exception of the aft head (three cabin here) your copy is identical to ours, as far as I can tell. I just realized the cabinets along the starboard side are much taller than ours, but do not run the full length, whereas ours are lower but continue right to the bulkhead. That's a significant difference. Larger cabinets would be nice. Edit: I just scanned through all the listings on Yachtworld and it looks like the the change in cabinetry happened around 2008. Some '08s still have the older style. I don't know if the change would have been cost saving since the newer style actually creates more cabinets albeit smaller and simpler. The new cabinets seem to make the interior look brighter and more open. Wow, 2008; maybe it was the big crash? Tweaking some money knobs to stay going? I've not looked at sales numbers but one would think such an event could leave a crater in sales. A perspicacious management might actually try to surf that plunge, stay ahead of the decline (and here I'm diving into 100% speculation, glub-glub).
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Post by zaphod on Feb 9, 2021 2:27:44 GMT
I just realized the cabinets along the starboard side are much taller than ours, but do not run the full length, whereas ours are lower but continue right to the bulkhead. That's a significant difference. Larger cabinets would be nice. Edit: I just scanned through all the listings on Yachtworld and it looks like the the change in cabinetry happened around 2008. Some '08s still have the older style. I don't know if the change would have been cost saving since the newer style actually creates more cabinets albeit smaller and simpler. The new cabinets seem to make the interior look brighter and more open. Wow, 2008; maybe it was the big crash? Tweaking some money knobs to stay going? I've not looked at sales numbers but one would think such an event could leave a crater in sales. A perspicacious management might actually try to surf that plunge, stay ahead of the decline (and here I'm diving into 100% speculation, glub-glub). I spoke to my broker just the other day and he was telling me that there is a shortage of used boats in the 10-15 year old range. He attributed it to a big drop in boat production following the 2008 crash. He said if I decided to sell my boat it would sell very quickly, and likely for more than I paid for it. I still am not convinced the change in cabinet design was a cost cutting measure as much as an effort to freshen up the look of the interior and make it look more modern.
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Post by element on Feb 9, 2021 6:30:57 GMT
Our 39i is from 2007, and has indeed the “older” style interior. Biggest differences are the rounded corners of the bunks and other cabinets. I really can’t tell if it is just for a modern look or also for cost savings. Somehow our boat is still at the website of the broker were we bought the boat (albeit with status sold). The site is in Dutch (can be translated with google) but that does not matter for the pictures, also from the cabin to get an idea of the looks of the older interior design. www.krijgsman.nl/aanbod/282/Jeanneau-Sun-Odyssey-39i-Performance
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Post by dbostrom on Feb 9, 2021 8:48:28 GMT
Thanks for the pointer to that collection of photos, Element. You've just caused a lot of trouble. For me the wood overheads in the forward berth outboard areas really help to break up the unrelieved whiteness of that area. I'm going to "make that so." So easy. Ditto outboard lower liners in aft berths. Both areas are kind of bleak in our build. Not hard to dress up at all. [he says, and there's the trouble Element has caused] And storage under the berth! Nice. I've been thinking about that. Guessing there's no water tank there, or less than the 190L-ish tank in our boat? I've been ruminating on doing a wide, flattish drawer in the void above the forward tank that is in our boat. The nav desk's huge available panel area is another plus in my book. That might not be for everyone, but for the gadget-happy: nice real estate. Our boat in that area is again unrelieved pleatherette, and crowded. I'm not sure if pleatherette on Baltic ply is actually cheaper than the wood shown, so maybe this is all about updating. For me the earlier look is better-- personal, I guess. One other observation. The reason why apertures in stressed bulkheads (and other areas, such as hulls w/"windows") have retained radius on corners is for stress relief. Ideally doorways on structural bulkheads would be treated this way. Element's doorways are an interesting half-way step between ideal and "stress riser." Of course this will only matter when tested to near destruction. An engineer choosing to go with corners is setting boundaries on performance, but as always this is a trade against other factors.
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Post by element on Feb 9, 2021 18:43:04 GMT
Definitely the led bulb upgrade is the "low hanging fruit" of energy management. As soon as I felt how hot the original halogen bulbs got I knew they were energy hogs. I believe it was the very first upgrade I did. Even so, I find the light fixture locations, and the quality of lighting they provide is not the greatest. One upgrade I am considering is the addition of led strip light running the length of the grab rails on each side of the cabin. That way they will cast light up onto the cabin ceiling and create a soft ambient lighting. Ideally the LED lighting would be RGB so you could change the ambient lighting to red while under way at night. I am just in the process of researching my options and determining power consumption. We also found the reading lights in the v-berth to be pretty much useless because the light is coming from the side. That makes it hard to light up a book without shining light on a sleeping partner. We got some nice goose neck led lights from Amazon that are great, albeit a bit pricey. They are dimable and have built in night lights. I fully agree that the quality of the light these ceiling lights give is not the great. In the cockpit the previous owner installed some lights which could be directed to above and towards the sides. I must say this gives a much more nicer ambient lighting and that's why we use these ambient lights mostly. Having said that, we don't have these kind of lights in the forward cabin. So I really love the lights you have installed. And keep us posted about your research of led strips alongside the grab rails.
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Post by zaphod on Feb 9, 2021 18:55:31 GMT
Definitely the led bulb upgrade is the "low hanging fruit" of energy management. As soon as I felt how hot the original halogen bulbs got I knew they were energy hogs. I believe it was the very first upgrade I did. Even so, I find the light fixture locations, and the quality of lighting they provide is not the greatest. One upgrade I am considering is the addition of led strip light running the length of the grab rails on each side of the cabin. That way they will cast light up onto the cabin ceiling and create a soft ambient lighting. Ideally the LED lighting would be RGB so you could change the ambient lighting to red while under way at night. I am just in the process of researching my options and determining power consumption. We also found the reading lights in the v-berth to be pretty much useless because the light is coming from the side. That makes it hard to light up a book without shining light on a sleeping partner. We got some nice goose neck led lights from Amazon that are great, albeit a bit pricey. They are dimable and have built in night lights. I fully agree that the quality of the light these ceiling lights give is not the great. In the cockpit the previous owner installed some lights which could be directed to above and towards the sides. I must say this gives a much more nicer ambient lighting and that's why we use these ambient lights mostly. Having said that, we don't have these kind of lights in the forward cabin. So I really love the lights you have installed. And keep us posted about your research of led strips alongside the grab rails. The factory cockpit light is pretty much useless too. Right now we have a simple and cheap solution for that....led candles on the table and a string of battery powered led lights overhead. In future I envision strip lighting on the underside of the table edge, and some more permanent overhead lighting.
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Post by element on Feb 9, 2021 19:01:02 GMT
Thanks for the pointer to that collection of photos, Element. You've just caused a lot of trouble. And storage under the berth! Nice. I've been thinking about that. Guessing there's no water tank there, or less than the 190L-ish tank in our boat? I've been ruminating on doing a wide, flattish drawer in the void above the forward tank that is in our boat. The nav desk's huge available panel area is another plus in my book. That might not be for everyone, but for the gadget-happy: nice real estate. Our boat in that area is again unrelieved pleatherette, and crowded. I'm not sure if pleatherette on Baltic ply is actually cheaper than the wood shown, so maybe this is all about updating. For me the earlier look is better-- personal, I guess. One other observation. The reason why apertures in stressed bulkheads (and other areas, such as hulls w/"windows") have retained radius on corners is for stress relief. Ideally doorways on structural bulkheads would be treated this way. Element's doorways are an interesting half-way step between ideal and "stress riser." Of course this will only matter when tested to near destruction. An engineer choosing to go with corners is setting boundaries on performance, but as always this is a trade against other factors. Sorry to make your to-do list a bit longer But I like this thread, it is exactly developing as I hoped: to share experiences and learn from each other to improve our boats. The storage under the forward berth is indeed where originally the water tank is. The previous owner was quite performance oriented and did not want such a big weight forward in the boat. And he had may sails, both a jib and 120m2 gennaker easily fitted in this space. Downside is that we now only have the 155 liter aft water tank, but to be honest this is enough for coastal cruising we mostly do when we are regulary in a harbour where we can top up the water tank. We still have the 200 liter forward tank at home. I have to still to decide if we are going to refit it for your big tour. Especially because I am going to fit a watermaker. And being an engineer, I am aware that rounded corners are much better for stress relief. So the old interior is better from a construction design point of view. But it is also a matter of taste, I personally like the more straight and clean lines of the newer interior. Although I am indeed happy with the bigger cabinet at the chart table to fit instruments. Also by us it is already filling up nicely.
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Post by zaphod on Feb 9, 2021 19:55:25 GMT
Thanks for the pointer to that collection of photos, Element. You've just caused a lot of trouble. And storage under the berth! Nice. I've been thinking about that. Guessing there's no water tank there, or less than the 190L-ish tank in our boat? I've been ruminating on doing a wide, flattish drawer in the void above the forward tank that is in our boat. The nav desk's huge available panel area is another plus in my book. That might not be for everyone, but for the gadget-happy: nice real estate. Our boat in that area is again unrelieved pleatherette, and crowded. I'm not sure if pleatherette on Baltic ply is actually cheaper than the wood shown, so maybe this is all about updating. For me the earlier look is better-- personal, I guess. One other observation. The reason why apertures in stressed bulkheads (and other areas, such as hulls w/"windows") have retained radius on corners is for stress relief. Ideally doorways on structural bulkheads would be treated this way. Element's doorways are an interesting half-way step between ideal and "stress riser." Of course this will only matter when tested to near destruction. An engineer choosing to go with corners is setting boundaries on performance, but as always this is a trade against other factors. Sorry to make your to-do list a bit longer But I like this threat, it is exactly developing as I hoped: to share experiences and learn from each other to improve our boats. The storage under the forward berth is indeed where originally the water tank is. The previous owner was quite performance oriented and did not want such a big weight forward in the boat. And he had may sails, both a jib and 120m2 gennaker easily fitted in this space. Downside is that we now only have the 155 liter aft water tank, but to be honest this is enough for coastal cruising we mostly do when we are regulary in a harbour where we can top up the water tank. We still have the 200 liter forward tank at home. I have to still to decide if we are going to refit it for your big tour. Especially because I am going to fit a watermaker. And being an engineer, I am aware that rounded corners are much better for stress relief. So the old interior is better from a construction design point of view. But it is also a matter of taste, I personally like the more straight and clean lines of the newer interior. Although I am indeed happy with the bigger cabinet at the chart table to fit instruments. Also by us it is already filling up nicely. Yes, this thread is great for getting ideas. I had no idea there were so many differences in interiors. That locker under the v-berth looks factory. It would be nice to have a large space like that, but I'm not sure I would sacrifice having 400L water capacity. Where we cruise in the peak of summer there are often water shortages in the small island communities we visit. Even if they aren't rationing water we don't necessarily want to put that water in our tanks! I agree the wood paneling against the hull in the v-berth is much nicer than the vinyl on ours. The vinyl seems a bit fragile, and is likely going to get damaged at some point. When that happens, it will get replaced with wood. The white vinyl wrapped panel at the nav station on the newer boats is not as nice either. I understand why they did it, they didn't want to break up the lines of the low profile cabinets. That said, it is still useable space. The panel is removable, and has plenty of space for a large MFD if someone wanted one at the nav station. On our boat the VHF radio is mounted there.
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Post by dbostrom on Feb 9, 2021 20:41:14 GMT
I've been obsessing over exactly the "right" lighting beneath our bimini, looking for a fixture that'll partially wrap around tubing, not look awkward etc. Thanks, Zaphod-- reality check. That's a perfectly acceptable workaround and best of all it has the first and most important virtue: existence.
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Post by bereboot on Feb 11, 2021 13:52:24 GMT
Our 39i is from 2007, and has indeed the “older” style interior. Biggest differences are the rounded corners of the bunks and other cabinets. I really can’t tell if it is just for a modern look or also for cost savings. Somehow our boat is still at the website of the broker were we bought the boat (albeit with status sold). The site is in Dutch (can be translated with google) but that does not matter for the pictures, also from the cabin to get an idea of the looks of the older interior design. www.krijgsman.nl/aanbod/282/Jeanneau-Sun-Odyssey-39i-Performance
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Post by element on Feb 13, 2021 9:46:42 GMT
Ok, time for another post. This time about in improvements which costed only a few euro's and we use daily and something which costed a few hundred euro's to buy and get installed what I never hope to need to use. Chopping board
We love the double sink. We use one for the dirty dishes whilst you can normally use the other. The downside of two full sized sinks is that you have less working space. To have more working space and keep the dirty dishes out of sight, we have now two wooden chopping board which we can place over either sink. It appeared that IKEA sells a size that exactly fits in the sink. And because it is form IKEA, you pay only a few euro’s for such a chopping board so I also have one in reserve. Inspection hatch fuel tank
Although we have never a problem and do everything possible to prevent it, it is always possible that fuel gets contaminated with water. This can result in development of the “diesel bug” which causes clogged filters and hoses or even worse, potential engine failure. And I have been told that it is a nightmare to get rid of this bug, especially when you can’t clean your main fuel tank properly. Therefore, our engine maintenance specialist has installed an inspection hatch which is big enough to clean the tank as well. Let’s hope we never have to use it.
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Post by dbostrom on Feb 13, 2021 17:18:28 GMT
Not just an inspection hatch but also a beautiful bit of hardware. That's a nice feature to have already in pocket, before it's needed. The equivalent of forehanded policy in an organization.
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Post by zaphod on Feb 14, 2021 1:59:18 GMT
Ok, time for another post. This time about in improvements which costed only a few euro's and we use daily and something which costed a few hundred euro's to buy and get installed what I never hope to need to use. Chopping board
We love the double sink. We use one for the dirty dishes whilst you can normally use the other. The downside of two full sized sinks is that you have less working space. To have more working space and keep the dirty dishes out of sight, we have now two wooden chopping board which we can place over either sink. It appeared that IKEA sells a size that exactly fits in the sink. And because it is form IKEA, you pay only a few euro’s for such a chopping board so I also have one in reserve. Inspection hatch fuel tank
Although we have never a problem and do everything possible to prevent it, it is always possible that fuel gets contaminated with water. This can result in development of the “diesel bug” which causes clogged filters and hoses or even worse, potential engine failure. And I have been told that it is a nightmare to get rid of this bug, especially when you can’t clean your main fuel tank properly. Therefore, our engine maintenance specialist has installed an inspection hatch which is big enough to clean the tank as well. Let’s hope we never have to use it. You have 2 full sized sinks? We only have 1 full and one half sink. Ours came with matching corian sink covers and the large cover has a cutting board on one side of it.
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