Removing windows on my 36i

[agui]

Hi to all members vast experiences from which i have learn a lot on the past 2 years. I am from Puerto Rico and currently living the same strange world shutdowns of the Covid 19... I trust this message finds everybody in good health.

Today I need your guidance on my 2008 Sun Oddysey 36i saloon/head leaking windows. It seems that all the windows started leaking at the same time. On the deck I carefully removed the wooden hand rail to expose the screws and expected the cover was easy to remove or unscrew further exposing the windows but it wasn't. So, i stopped before making a mess without knowing the proper process for the job ahead. Please refer to the picture below if i could explain myself correctly

Please advise and thanks in advance

Agui



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[agui]

No one , really?

[zaphod]

I guess it is not a common thing for the windows on that generation to leak. I am surprised yours are leaking considering they have that nice lid "eyelid" orite thing them from the elements.

[agui]

Jul 23, 2020 0:24:35 GMT zaphod said:

I guess it is not a common thing for the windows on that generation to leak. I am surprised yours are leaking considering they have that nice lid "eyelid" orite thing them from the elements.

True under normal circustances but after the 2017 hurricane seasons in Puerto Rico the windows need to be reinforced. Thanks for your reply and hope someone gives me some insight about the correct process to fix them all

[ForGrinsToo]

Two people on the Facebook Sun Odyssey 36i page report repairing leaks among the salon ports. Neither explains how the eyebrow was handled, however. The ports are glued in. So if you can get the glue to release from the inside top, maybe the eyebrow doesn't have to come off?

Geoff

[allegria]

Hello,

My 2010 36i windows also leak from the bottom... only when water comes up.. i.e. not very often.
The sealant/glue has failed at the bottom on the side which is exposed to the sun more than the other side.
The top of the windows are protected by this lip and the sealant/glue is still holding firm.

I haven't come up with a solution as yet, however, I suspect you can remove the sealant with an oscillating tool with the correct blade from the inside...

I have also considered re-bedding them with VHB double sided tape from 3m. Again, all in he planning and not done as yet.

Let us know how you go...

Cheers,
Allegria

[allegria]

Hi All,

Just off the slip this week... the boatyard manager told me to use some sealant to try gluing back the bottom part of the window. Apparently, removing the "lips" over the window is a big job (= expensive) and he said it would be ok until the window needs to come off altogether...

I might just do that for now...

But if anyone has managed to remove these windows without removing the outside "lips", let us know...

Cheers,
Allegria

[capeclear]

I'm looking at a similar issue on a 39i where the sealant on the bottom edge of the heads / galley / saloon windows is missing.

Any water sloshing around on deck will come in. The top of the windows has the eyelid / eyebrow to protect the sealant against UV breakdown. 

Of course the best way to get a new all-round seal would be to remove the windows completely but judging by the earlier posts this is a much bigger undertaking.

Allegria, did you manage to get this job done?

[allegria]

Hi Capeclear,

No, I haven't tackle that one yet... still hoping someone will come up with a better solution.
I will keep you posted when I do...

Cheers,
Allegria

[Charlie-Bravo]

If it isn't screwed, it will be glued ..... not a great pearl of wisdom but probably true.

My approach .. would first be to contact a Jeanneau main dealer and find out if the eyelid panel can be purchased as a spare part, if it can, then you at least know that if you damage it during removal all is not lost .... just lots of money.
Secondly, what is it glued to, and with what, .... probably something like Sikaflex which isn't going to let go easy, multi tools with a choice of blades can get in lots of places, and are often used for window removal,  and for the areas that it can't Cheese wire is a good friend and an arch enemy of Sikaflex, and plastic tyre levers are good for encouraging the glue to let go once you get it started.

It looks tricky to attack from the outside, is it any more accessible from the inside , bearing in mind that Jeanneau may have fitted the windows before all the internal trim.

For small leaks and a few years of leak free windows sometimes Captain Tollys sealer will run into the leaky area and seal it ..... but it isn't a full fix, better to remove the window and do a proper job, you will only do it once.

Hope it goes well and I'm sure others will eventually benefit from your discoveries.

CB

[so36idavid]

I'm resurrecting this thread because I now have the same problem. Has anyone successfully removed the eyebrow or possibly the windows without removing the eyebrow?

Thanks
David

[allegria]

Hi David et al,

I did manage to fix the starboard window by removing it from the inside.
No need to remove the lip, and actually, it wouldn't help at all as this won't give you a better access to the window as it is recessed.

I've used an oscillating tool with a non sharp blade to avoid damaging the window itself. It was very difficult as the silicon/glue was so hard to brake down at the top. the bottom part was virtually entirely free!
Make sure you protect the window with masking tape to avoid damaging it with the tool.
Once the window was out, it was a lot cleaning on both the window and the frame.

I then used 3M VHB Tape (5962F 19mm x 11m) to glue it back in place. Lots of practice to position the window as you only
have one shot at gluing it down...

Once in place, I used a couple of suction cup lifters to apply pressure and ensure a perfect bond for 24 hours.

The result is very good, it has been over a year now and no leak, no movement... very happy with the result... but hard work!

Hope it helps someone out there...

Cheers,
Allegria

[so36idavid]

That's very helpful thanks! Can you please give me a bit more info about the "non sharp blade"? I have an oscillating tool but I'm having a hard time imagining exactly what that would look like. A picture would be tremendously helpful.

Thx
David