Model Specific subsections

[captaintheo]

To make things easy create a subsection by model ie...NC895
Or NC11 etc

[shantiskipper]

I concur, seems like it would be a time saver and make things more user friendly.

I would be interested to know why it hasn't been designed into the forum previously? 

[MalcolmP]

Always welcome feedback and ideas but this has been considered, but not implemented as there are some downsides...

Many boat issues are not model specific, indeed most boats power and sail tend to come from parts bins of suppliers, therefore an issue affecting one boat may well have been solved in a totally different boat

There is also a very good search facility jeanneau.proboards.com/search

Examples:

NC895 tinyurl.com/NC895search
NC 11 tinyurl.com/NC11search
SO469  tinyurl.com/SO469

On our home page we link to other resources including model specific groups
www.jeanneau-owners.com/othergroups.html#model

but it does seem that it ends up with fragmentation and often not that much traffic when you become too model specific.

Happy for thoughts on this by others too

[lynnardm]

Malcolm

Subsections make sense. But I suggest including more boats in each as they have so much in common. For example, Perhaps a subsection for MF/NC 695 795 855 895 and 1095.

Thanks for everything you do running the forum.

Capt’n Lynn

[MalcolmP]

Jul 31, 2020 17:31:42 GMT lynnardm said:

Malcolm

Subsections make sense. But I suggest including more boats in each as they have so much in common. For example, Perhaps a subsection for MF/NC 695 795 855 895 and 1095.

Thanks for everything you do running the forum.

Capt’n Lynn

Hi Capt'n Lynn

Very happy for this to be trialed

So I have set up a sub-board at:  jeanneau.proboards.com/board/17/merry-fisher-695-795-1095

I can easily make other sub-boards, but perhaps we should see how much use this gets first

kind regards  Malcolm

[fakinx]

I always use “recent threads” option. No need for model-specific sub-sections. At least for me.

[MalcolmP]

Jul 31, 2020 19:38:36 GMT fakinx said:

I always use “recent threads” option. No need for model-specific sub-sections. At least for me.

Yes that is always my first stop too jeanneau.proboards.com/threads/recent

Guess everyone has different approaches, so what works for individuals is also of course fine. As admin I am happy to trial different options if there is demand

[captaintheo]

Jul 31, 2020 17:31:42 GMT lynnardm said:

Malcolm

Subsections make sense. But I suggest including more boats in each as they have so much in common. For example, Perhaps a subsection for MF/NC 695 795 855 895 and 1095.

Thanks for everything you do running the forum.

Capt’n Lynn

👍💙👍💙👍💙👍

[Capt’n Ron]

I’d suggest we align with the categories on the Jeanneau site like:

Leader Outboard
Leader Inboard
NC Outboard - Weekender and Sport
NC Inboard


Thanks,
Ron

[MalcolmP]

Aug 1, 2020 1:44:55 GMT Capt’n Ron said:

I’d suggest we align with the categories on the Jeanneau site like:

Leader Outboard
Leader Inboard
NC Outboard - Weekender and Sport
NC Inboard


Thanks,
Ron

Ron

If only it was so simple.... trouble is this site is viewed worldwide and as Jeanneau America have re-branded many of the models, it to me at least is now ultra confusing, with many identical models having different names to the ROW

The Jeanneau America models www.jeanneauamerica.com/en/boats/powerboat/
Jeanneau ROW models www.jeanneau.com/en/boats/powerboat/

Also not all powerboats available in Europe are brought into North America either such as the smaller Cap Camarat's

If you or someone with some time and patience would care to produce a cross reference that would help, but my initial point that "most boats power and sail tend to come from parts bins of suppliers, therefore an issue affecting one boat may well have been solved in a totally different boat"
I believe remains valid and that is the main disadvantage with trying to separate all threads into models

I think we need to see how much the pilot subsection is used  jeanneau.proboards.com/board/17/merry-fisher-695-795-1095 before creating multiple sub-sections.

Thanks Malcolm

[shantiskipper]

Malcom,

Yes, Thank You for your time & energy administering this forum.

The point you make about issues, questions & discussions transcending across many models makes perfect sense. It was not something I considered. 
I still believe there are some model specific discussions such as performance, sail preferences,  modifications, removal of specific panels, exact locations of certain equipment/relays/wiring harnesses, etc.., that might make having model specific subsections worth the effort and save owners some time.
Do posts in "Boards" also show up in "Recent Threads"? If so, I could see how that would clutter up that section, but if not, it may lessen the traffic there.
And as Capt'n Lynn suggested, having subsections with closely related models such as the 469so & 479so, 379so & 389so models makes good sense.

There seems to be some interest but perhaps as you say, there may not be enough traffic on model specific threads to have it make sense.

I tried the search feature last week but failed miserably and admit to being a neophyte. I then tried your suggestion using the "tinyurl.com/SO469" with great success. Thank You for that tip.

Respectfully;
Daniel

[Gio]

Jul 31, 2020 16:30:02 GMT MalcolmP said:

Always welcome feedback and ideas but this has been considered, but not implemented as there are some downsides...

Many boat issues are not model specific, indeed most boats power and sail tend to come from parts bins of suppliers, therefore an issue affecting one boat may well have been solved in a totally different boat

There is also a very good search facility jeanneau.proboards.com/search

Examples:

NC895 tinyurl.com/NC895search
NC 11 tinyurl.com/NC11search
SO469  tinyurl.com/SO469

On our home page we link to other resources including model specific groups
www.jeanneau-owners.com/othergroups.html#model

but it does seem that it ends up with fragmentation and often not that much traffic when you become too model specific.

Happy for thoughts on this by others too

I agree with this approach, I don't think the forum has so many posts and high volume to justify sub-sections. It will create a high fragmentation with only few posts inside, hard to read.

Also, many posts are relevant to many models, think about the thread regarding the water gauge....this is valid for any boat with a water tank.

[MalcolmP]

Aug 1, 2020 14:21:01 GMT shantiskipper said:

I tried the search feature last week but failed miserably and admit to being a neophyte. I then tried your suggestion using the "tinyurl.com/SO469" with great success. Thank You for that tip.

Hi Daniel. Glad that helped, the best way of doing the search that I can find is to use "with all the words field" for that search I put in Sun Odyssey 469.  This is because 469 is too short to be used alone. Glad it works for you. Malcolm

[MalcolmP]

Aug 2, 2020 8:26:16 GMT Gio said:

Jul 31, 2020 16:30:02 GMT MalcolmP said:

Always welcome feedback and ideas but this has been considered, but not implemented as there are some downsides...

Many boat issues are not model specific, indeed most boats power and sail tend to come from parts bins of suppliers, therefore an issue affecting one boat may well have been solved in a totally different boat

There is also a very good search facility jeanneau.proboards.com/search

Examples:

NC895 tinyurl.com/NC895search
NC 11 tinyurl.com/NC11search
SO469  tinyurl.com/SO469

On our home page we link to other resources including model specific groups
www.jeanneau-owners.com/othergroups.html#model

but it does seem that it ends up with fragmentation and often not that much traffic when you become too model specific.

Happy for thoughts on this by others too

I agree with this approach, I don't think the forum has so many posts and high volume to justify sub-sections. It will create a high fragmentation with only few posts inside, hard to read.

Also, many posts are relevant to many models, think about the thread regarding the water gauge....this is valid for any boat with a water tank.

Thanks Gio. I do understand why some think model specific sections would be of benefit, but as you so well point out there is a major risk of fragmentation.  Using the "search" and "recent threads" should achieve good results for most I am sure. Malcolm 

[Charlie-Bravo]

I use the 'recent threads" , I like to read issues that others have had, even if not on an SO 35 of a certain year.
One great thing about a non model specific forum is that you tap into not only the model owners, but a whole range of people with experience of a huge variety. Whilst model specific advice can be handy, knowlage of the science of why something works, or behaves in a different way to that expected , from informed people whatever boat they have, I feel is the real value here.

Well done Mal on your efforts keeping it all running.

CB