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Post by MalcolmP on Nov 17, 2019 16:44:49 GMT
Just wondering aloud if this remote for toggle switches might be a useful solution for people who want to switch things like the fridge on and off remotely and maybe monitor using Vasko's clever Boat Vitals? Might look a bit messy if fixed directly on the main panel, but guess for specific functions would be relatively simple to wire an override switch in a less conspicuous place www.switch-bot.com/bot
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Post by MickeyB on Nov 18, 2019 9:04:30 GMT
Will let Vasko answer this, but I think he said his tool is bi-directional. So in theory you can talk back to his device, which means that you could wire it up to turn something on.
I was wondering about wiring it up to my water maker so that I can turn it on and off happily...but then i need to know how much water I have left in my tap tank etc, so never got round to it.
The big problem in making your boat do something is security. If there is an open 'protocol' of some description to my boat, then it must be very secure or anyone can tell my boat to do something!
But a system to turn things on and off remotely would be cool. I always envisaged wiring up the water tanks, fuel etc to something like BoatVitals so I can monitor it even whilst aboard. Turning things on and off via an app would be great. I would also like a camera which I can just have a quick look at as well - or it alerts me if it senses anything moving.
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Post by johannes on Nov 18, 2019 10:12:11 GMT
I don't see much point in having a mechanical actuator switching an existing breaker on a boat, where it is easy to add a hidden breaker behind a panel. There is a jungle out there with different home-automation solutions that would also work on a boat. 433.92 MHz systems if you want cheap, Z Wave or similar if you want more advanced. At home I've been using this system for many years: live.telldus.com/It consists of a central unit that is connected to the internet. It wirelessly controls whatever units you install (can be a mix of 433.92 MHz and Z Wave). Then there's an app that lets you control everything, read sensors etc.
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Post by vasko on Nov 18, 2019 17:31:37 GMT
Boat-Vitals is based on one of our internal systems (open source version of it is : www.i4things.com ) which supports two directional communication - e.g. YES from boat-vitals you can control remotely things on the boat , but boat vitals security is on the level of Amazon, Apple and Google - e.g not perfect from my point of view - but we do have a 100% open source secure solution( that I use in all my homes ) example for secure remote control switch : github.com/i4things/NodeAPI/tree/master/examples/ESP8266-01/1CH_RELAY/thingIn case someone is interested let me know and I can help either with boat-vitals or the 100% strong solution ..
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Post by zaphod on Nov 18, 2019 17:41:18 GMT
It seems silly to put a big plastic box on your panel to physically switch a breaker on and off. It would make more sense to wire a remotely operated relay or triac in series with the circuit breaker you want to control. Then you can leave the breaker on and open and close the circuit using the relay.
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Post by vasko on Nov 18, 2019 18:40:42 GMT
Will let Vasko answer this, but I think he said his tool is bi-directional. So in theory you can talk back to his device, which means that you could wire it up to turn something on. I was wondering about wiring it up to my water maker so that I can turn it on and off happily...but then i need to know how much water I have left in my tap tank etc, so never got round to it. The big problem in making your boat do something is security. If there is an open 'protocol' of some description to my boat, then it must be very secure or anyone can tell my boat to do something! But a system to turn things on and off remotely would be cool. I always envisaged wiring up the water tanks, fuel etc to something like BoatVitals so I can monitor it even whilst aboard. Turning things on and off via an app would be great. I would also like a camera which I can just have a quick look at as well - or it alerts me if it senses anything moving. Check the i4things.com example it has secure private key - e.g no one can actually switch anything on your boat...
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Post by vasko on Nov 18, 2019 18:42:33 GMT
Will let Vasko answer this, but I think he said his tool is bi-directional. So in theory you can talk back to his device, which means that you could wire it up to turn something on. I was wondering about wiring it up to my water maker so that I can turn it on and off happily...but then i need to know how much water I have left in my tap tank etc, so never got round to it. The big problem in making your boat do something is security. If there is an open 'protocol' of some description to my boat, then it must be very secure or anyone can tell my boat to do something! But a system to turn things on and off remotely would be cool. I always envisaged wiring up the water tanks, fuel etc to something like BoatVitals so I can monitor it even whilst aboard. Turning things on and off via an app would be great. I would also like a camera which I can just have a quick look at as well - or it alerts me if it senses anything moving. Also you can run your own i4things server - it is open source and have every step of the way full control.
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