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Post by MalcolmP on Apr 25, 2019 13:35:51 GMT
Jeanneau launches the Sun Loft 47
Paul Gury - 25/04/19 - Voile et Moteur   www.23hq.com/Jeanneau/photo/54129541/original  www.23hq.com/Jeanneau/photo/54129530/originalThe Vendée shipyard is refocusing on the world of charter with the launch of the Sun Loft 47. A sailboat dedicated above all to the rental market and companies such as Dream Yacht Charter or MedSailors. Everything to enjoy the outdoors
On the deck, the Sun Loft 47 will have a modular cockpit with a large swim platform. The two large independent cockpit tables can each turn into a sunbed. A Sunbed will also be found in front of the mast. Movement on board, facilitated to the maximum will be optimized by the presence of wide gangways and a large front sunbed. In addition the sailboat will offer a huge open kitchen directly ahead of the cockpit. Finally the protection of the cockpit will be something to envy! Each zone can be protected independently, whether on the sides and / or on the top. Six cabins double, but no saloon
This Briand plan composed of six cabins - for a maximum capacity of 12 people with skipper - will combine several comfortable living spaces. Below decks there are no less than 4 bathrooms with WC, 2 of which are ensuite to their respective cabins. The below deck space is dedicated to the sleeping cabins - there is no saloon - but will allow each person on board to have full privacy. The interior space will be divided into two large double ensuite cabins at the rear, another double on starboard with a two berth pullman on the port side. Forward are two more double cabins while the skipper's bunk is placed in the bow, with access from the deck.   www.23hq.com/Jeanneau/photo/54129538/original
The Sun Loft 47 preliminary specs: Overall length: 14 m. Width: 4.49 m. Draft: 1.85 m. Displacement: 12,000 - 15,000 kg. Standard SV: 105 m2. Sleeps: 12 + 1. Architect: P. Briand. Builder: Jeanneau. Original article in French at: www.voileetmoteur.com/voiliers/actualite-voile/les-chantiers/jeanneau-lance-son-premier-monocat-le-sun-loft-47
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Post by MalcolmP on Apr 25, 2019 13:49:43 GMT
Specifications show it is based on the Sun Odyssey 490 hull  |
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Post by jcnyb on Apr 25, 2019 14:29:26 GMT
You beat me too it Malcom!  It's a boat designed for the charter market - no doubt it will sell in good numbers to charter firms who it targets - it's the right size for them and is well conceived given that most of their business is based in the summer months. Those companies that operate in colder parts of the world will still be able to buy and utilise the existing range but it will allow Jeanneau also to refine their offer to dedicated owners rather than trying to design one boat that can cover all bases - its a really sharp commercial move I think. I know it's going to be divisive amongst some crowds, I'm sure some will hate it, but I for one like it, radical thinking is why Jeanneau are one of the most popular and progressive brands out there today. |
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Post by MalcolmP on Apr 25, 2019 17:22:33 GMT
You beat me too it Malcom! It's a boat designed for the charter market - no doubt it will sell in good numbers to charter firms who it targets - it's the right size for them and is well conceived given that most of their business is based in the summer months. Those companies that operate in colder parts of the world will still be able to buy and utilise the existing range but it will allow Jeanneau also to refine their offer to dedicated owners rather than trying to design one boat that can cover all bases - its a really sharp commercial move I think. I know it's going to be divisive amongst some crowds, I'm sure some will hate it, but I for one like it, radical thinking is why Jeanneau are one of the most popular and progressive brands out there today. Hi Jon - ha ha  It is not for me, but then it is aimed squarely at the charter market, certainly has innovation and shows that Jeanneau are prepared to take some risks in launching a new concept. The bimini/roof with the integrated solar looks good and the forward steering controls are interesting, I guess to keep the stern free for the holiday groups. 12+ on a 14m boat certainly is to the max, but can see this will be a competitive option to the rival catamaran charter fleets. I don't think I would fancy anchoring near one though as everyone has to be on deck/in cockpit all the time ...party boat indeed  But overall like you say, I think it is good they are pushing at traditional boundaries. Malcolm |
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Post by puravida35 on Apr 25, 2019 19:59:47 GMT
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Post by Don Reaves on Apr 25, 2019 20:17:31 GMT
They are certainly thinking outside the box! But I would have thought that even the charter world would have some need for food storage and preparation. Is it hidden in there somewhere?
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Post by jcnyb on Apr 25, 2019 21:13:08 GMT
They are certainly thinking outside the box! But I would have thought that even the charter world would have some need for food storage and preparation. Is it hidden in there somewhere? Indeed, it's hidden behind that large sprayhood - in effect its in the cockpit! See better angle below for this. As Malcom noted the hull appears to be based on the 490 but I think the topsides are very different and it looks like they've put the companionway much further forward to make extra cockpit length to accomodate the galley. Access to the stern cabins is direct from the cockpit, massive bow cushion area which I guess figures for a charter boat in particular... Some other interesting features I noted which I figure might well be translated over to the owners range, a fixed glass sprayhood (a la the Sweedish style) and a fixed bimini (like the sister company offers) - what do people think of these as options for the owners range?  www.23hq.com/16171062/54141178_e0401b0f3b248a3f7142cefd1bc94f36_large.jpg www.23hq.com/16171062/54141177_a40e0369ccad93b1da4367821d5afe5d_large.jpg www.23hq.com/16171062/54141176_a6e9c3b0c1ab1a0b04429986c7b66dd6_large.jpg |
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Post by hoppy on Apr 25, 2019 22:18:49 GMT
nice idea, BUT, if I was a charter company owner I would be worried about resale. Who would want to buy a 5-10 year old Sun Loft 47 besides the occasional charter company that runs only used boats?
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Post by MartyB on Apr 26, 2019 1:10:23 GMT
I agree with.Hippy, who wants to buy one? Current normal charter boats go for 2/3 of non charter owned. 1/2?!??
Still waiting for a SF349! May have to buy and one!
Marty
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Post by hoppy on Apr 26, 2019 1:46:27 GMT
Still waiting for a SF349! May have to buy and one! Marty Probably never going to happen, Just get a SO349 with a fat head main and put on a long bowsprit and get some massive Assys |
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Post by MartyB on Apr 27, 2019 4:36:17 GMT
Still waiting for a SF349! May have to buy and one! Marty Probably never going to happen, Just get a SO349 with a fat head main and put on a long bowsprit and get some massive Assys More like extendable sprit, ala J-Boat! CF mast 3-5' taller than stock! fat head main, for positive. Then another 6-12" of draft in keel, along with possibly some deeped rudders. Better main sheet system.......... Can not see buying a boat for 200K US$, and only be 35 secs a mile faster than I am, when I can spend half, not as good a floor plan for an SF35, than is another 60 secs faster yet! The 3200/3300/3600 floor plans suck for general useage, but wanting a hot rod setup! Marty |
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Post by so40gtb on May 12, 2019 0:00:37 GMT
It's an interesting concept and one that I might consider chartering. An optimal boat for charter service is likely not an optimal owner's boat. As others note, what's the "other side" of this when the boat's to old/worn for charter? That's a big question for charter operators who are agents for independent owners' boats, as the owner will be looking at the post-charter scenario, whether keeping the boat as a fulltime personal yacht or selling it. But a charter firm that owns its boats is in a different situation and might find boats like this to bring in enough new biz to justify losses at the end of charter feasibility. The open attitude is certainly commendable.
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Post by cpetku on Jun 4, 2019 1:39:31 GMT
FUGLY...
I charter in the caribbean through SunSail and will never rent one of these. Usually I get another three couples to go in on a catamaran, but when only two additional couples we do a monohull for cost. Having a common area inside for something as simple as coffee in the morning is a necessity. Can you imagine going into someone's stateroom (or the head) to make a sandwich or mix an adult beverage? I can't see how this works for anyone.
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Post by fakinx on Jun 4, 2019 6:11:58 GMT
Can you imagine some nasty weather going on for few days and yacht is caught in some bay and all moorings in vicinity are full? People on board would kill each other. The only option would be going into the (cold) cockpit and interact with others (sick and tired of bad weather) or stay in bed. No resale value in my opinion.
Auch...
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Post by MalcolmP on Feb 1, 2020 12:14:10 GMT
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Post by jy51 on Feb 1, 2020 12:55:43 GMT
As already mentioned it looks to be an interesting marketing ploy considering the Bavaria Cruiser 46 is the current king of the mono hull charter fleets. However, didn't Beneteau come up with a stripped down oceanic some years ago to tempt the charter companies, or am I mistaken? I know Bavaria had a range called "holiday" and I assume that was also built predominantly for the charter market.
Anyway, whoever it was, the idea didn't work too well, it seems people who charter expect a high standard of finish in their boats, maybe Jeanneau have got the correct balance with this one.
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 3, 2020 23:00:40 GMT
I have wondered if the galley setup might actually be better for nasty weather sailing. Usually sailing in a bad blow it’s hard to spend any time demos decks. Perhaps being able to prepare food without going below is a good idea? Depends I guess on how protected it’s is. If there were a three cabin version of this it would mean some huge cabins. That might be a draw. Personally I can’t imagine more than six on a boat for any length of time, but I do know this is popular for charters and it makes sense for those out for a week.
I’m glad to see new ideas though. Some will win and some won’t but something new is fun to see.
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Post by NZL50505 on Feb 4, 2020 4:52:51 GMT
To qualify as a smart move I’d need to believe Jeanneau got huge design input from their major target charter clients who told them “this is what we want”. Otherwise too big a gamble methinks.
It basically looks like a floating hospitality platform for sun-worshippers. I couldn’t imagine the sails getting much use. And so I’d expect a big engine to be the smart move.
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Post by johannes on Feb 4, 2020 9:04:01 GMT
I think it's a smart move that addresses a fairly large chunk of the charter market in the Med. Last time we sailed in the Med, in Croatia two years ago, the archipelago was swamped with party boats filled with college students and backpackers on an industrial scale.
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Post by NZL50505 on Feb 4, 2020 10:08:17 GMT
In which case I’d question why even make it a sailing boat? Sounds like the majority of partying clientele would be more at home on a motor boat?
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 4, 2020 14:27:39 GMT
I suspect that one reason we see charters on sailboats that don’t sail has to do with who organizes the trip. Sometimes one person that likes to sail convinces his/her friends to join. And then the organizer turns out to be the only one that enjoys sailing. The rest are just coming along for a vacation!
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Post by johannes on Feb 4, 2020 14:43:07 GMT
It has to be sailing boats so the clients can say that they have been "sailing".
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