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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 8, 2017 7:15:50 GMT
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Post by Don Reaves on Jul 8, 2017 11:27:49 GMT
Speaking just of the hull, it looks very much like the 449 sitting on the hard in my marina, awaiting commissioning. In fact, with the three rectangular hull ports, I didn't think at first that it was a Jeanneau.
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Post by MartyB on Jul 9, 2017 3:19:07 GMT
Interesting. At rendezvous a few weeks ago, new model was mentioned, BUT absolutely NO info was being given to dealer, nor were the ladies from Jeanneau saying squat about new model(s) either. Iirc they were saying no info until March next year........
Marty
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 11, 2017 9:52:17 GMT
Four initial videos of the 440 just made by Italian Vela magazine. Shows the cockpit innovations very clearly.
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Post by hoppy on Jul 11, 2017 10:31:18 GMT
Looks interesting. The fold down seat is quite clever and the same with the walkway.
The boat does have appealing lines but I think it would be a water if jeanneau don't produce a performance version with a taller rig and a deeper keel.
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 11, 2017 10:37:33 GMT
New photo from German "Yacht" Magazine, who will be doing a review later this year and already have nominated it for the Family Cruiser category for the Europe Yacht of the Year 2017/18 awards.  |
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 11, 2017 16:01:28 GMT
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 11, 2017 16:16:09 GMT
Provisional specs for Sun Odyssey 440:
LOA ------------------- 13,39 m / 43’ 11”
Beam: ------------------- 4,29 m /14" 7"
Draft: ------------------- 2,2 m / 7' 3"
Engine: ------------------- Yanmar 45 Hp
Cabins: ------------------- 2 or 3
Berths: -------------------4 / 6 + 2
Fuel capacity: -------------------200 l
Water capacity: ------------------- 330 l
Standard sail area: -------------------90,3 m2 / 972 sq ft
Performance rig: ------------------- 10% additional area
A larger sister, the Sun Odyssey 490 will also be launched later in the year.
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Post by hoppy on Jul 11, 2017 23:45:56 GMT
A larger sister, the Sun Odyssey 490 will also be launched later in the year. If there are no new boats in the range between those sizes then that will be a sensible length gap. Then they need a 540, 390 & 340..... A 290 entry level could be good as well. |
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Post by hoppy on Jul 11, 2017 23:59:44 GMT
It does look cosy  I think that the 440 and 490 will be huge sellers for Jeanneau stealing sales from Beneteau, Hanse, Bavaria etc... because it offers something very special and unique in cruising comfort and the walk way will be a huge selling point to older and less mobile sailors. The forward cabin looks pretty good for owners and cold kill the need for the DS range...  |
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Post by MartyB on Jul 12, 2017 3:17:29 GMT
Those side decks look horrible for rail meat! But better than current option for keeping feet within the deck area......maybe going back to larger sides along the rail?!?!?
Marty
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Post by hoppy on Jul 12, 2017 3:50:24 GMT
Those side decks look horrible for rail meat! But better than current option for keeping feet within the deck area......maybe going back to larger sides along the rail?!?!? Marty Why worry about rail meat? We are comfortable at the helm  |
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briar
Junior Member
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Jeanneau Model: SO 42i performance
Home Port: Pittwater
Country: Australia
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Post by briar on Jul 12, 2017 6:37:42 GMT
Guess the walk way will stop people from steering from the leeward side when it's wet!
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 12, 2017 7:23:29 GMT
I was fortunate to be invited onboard #001 a few weeks ago. The helm positions are brilliant, you can sit in the corners comfortably with perfect view along the side, so sitting to leeward will be able to keep close eye on the leech etc. The new sprayhood - dodger is also a big design improvement. That big chine going right forward makes the internal volume amazing. Philippe Briand has taken a cue from the buoyant bows of the latest mini transats, so should not be at the expense of performance. There is a climb in water tight sail/storage locker accessed just from the deck right forward that compensates for the reduced cockpit locker space. Although aft there is still space for a generator. Having a large cockpit sink is also a great feature.
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Post by hoppy on Jul 12, 2017 13:18:32 GMT
I was fortunate to be invited onboard #001 a few weeks ago. The helm positions are brilliant, you can sit in the corners comfortably with perfect view along the side, so sitting to leeward will be able to keep close eye on the leech etc. The new sprayhood - dodger is also a big design improvement. That big chine going right forward makes the internal volume amazing. Philippe Briand has taken a cue from the buoyant bows of the latest mini transats, so should not be at the expense of performance. There is a climb in water tight sail/storage locker accessed just from the deck right forward that compensates for the reduced cockpit locker space. Although aft there is still space for a generator. Having a large cockpit sink is also a great feature. Sounds like the years of running this forum has paid off with this little treat  |
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Post by hoppy on Jul 12, 2017 13:26:12 GMT
Guess the walk way will stop people from steering from the leeward side when it's wet! That's a good point as the water will rush into the cockpit rather than over the side. There is a SS grill over some drainage system but that wont help with waves breaking over the bow. Maybe if you are lucky and have your feet near the foot support, the water will flow under you legs??? |
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Post by rc sail on Jul 12, 2017 18:00:53 GMT
certainly looks beamy and interesting design twist with the rear side decks.
Not a fan of the galley along salon as you loose settee/seating area. Also
interesting J did not comb over the sheets/halyards on the deck as they did on 409/419/44ds.
Will be of interest to see pricing on this model.
I think I will stay with my 44ds
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 12, 2017 21:53:11 GMT
Sounds like the years of running this forum has paid off with this little treat More of a fortunate concurrence of being in the right place at the right time. But yes my wife and I felt privileged to have the very first independent view of her just after first launch, on the proviso of course of remaining embargoed until this week. Jeanneau really do rate considered owner feedback and opinions on future model development. |
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 12, 2017 22:01:00 GMT
That's a good point as the water will rush into the cockpit rather than over the side. There is a SS grill over some drainage system but that wont help with waves breaking over the bow. Maybe if you are lucky and have your feet near the foot support, the water will flow under you legs??? I think the water issue on the sidedecks has been well considered, the stern has a boarding platform, but effectively is still a main drainage route for any large volume of water being shipped aboard in extreme conditions. The stainless scuppers will deal with the more typical level of whitecap spray. |
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Post by hoppy on Jul 12, 2017 22:43:18 GMT
That's a good point as the water will rush into the cockpit rather than over the side. There is a SS grill over some drainage system but that wont help with waves breaking over the bow. Maybe if you are lucky and have your feet near the foot support, the water will flow under you legs??? I think the water issue on the sidedecks has been well considered, the stern has a boarding platform, but effectively is still a main drainage route for any large volume of water being shipped aboard in extreme conditions. The stainless scuppers will deal with the more typical level of whitecap spray. I wouldn't worry about the water volume being a problem for the boat. The issue is that it would be a bit disconcerting having the water from breaking waves rushing under you feet. Admittedly the last time I sailed in such conditions, I was solo and hiding under the spray hood letting the AP do the work whilst I tried to stay dry. |
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Post by optimystic on Jul 13, 2017 14:10:56 GMT
This looks like a very exciting design. I need to see it in person to judge the workability of the cockpit and galley but it looks fantastic to me so far. I don't get the sink at the stern or the lines above deck but the hull and driving positions look spot on for a next gen vessel. I really love the access ramp concept from helm to deck. This appears to be an elegant solution to easy access and not always having to ask guests to move. I would like to see a video on systems and rigging as well as a full list of configuration options. Boat show season is only 6 months away.
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 13, 2017 14:48:40 GMT
Video tour by Erik Stromberg
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 13, 2017 15:11:02 GMT
Video tour by Erik Stromberg There is also a different video of the 440 available - this one in French with a tour by Jeanneau's Hervé Piveteau |
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Post by MalcolmP on Oct 6, 2017 9:16:16 GMT
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Post by MalcolmP on Oct 6, 2017 9:25:04 GMT
Here are also a few random external shots as well. Note the offset of the cockpit table and companionway to give clear walkway down port side. Lots of intriguing detail on the boat like the beautiful fairlead for the asymmetric. The halyard tail bags are really neat, simply a stainless tube with a mesh bag, there are two by the wheels as well, a similar idea might be copied for other models. The sun lounger conversion is an option, a more traditional moulded backrest will be standard. Also see separate thread and video of my sea trial jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/5831/sea-trial-new-sun-odyssey    |
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