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Post by Aroha on Sept 5, 2015 12:17:24 GMT
I have been considering adding a bowsprit to fly an asymmetric on my 379
The Seldon looks good but gets in the way of the anchor locker which would seem to be a nuisance if one wanted to leave the sail furled while temporarily anchored
it would seem that the 379 + 10 is because jeanneau recognises the advantage of the bowsprit and the need to make it so that the anchor is always accesible
is anyone aware of if it is possible to buy the bowsprit from jeanneau that is used on the 389 and retrofit it - or is there a better option
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Post by hoppy on Sept 5, 2015 14:08:42 GMT
I would be surprised if the 389 is not a "simple" retrofit for a 379. Given that it's so new, chances are that you could be one of the first to consider the option, so I guess the best bet is to contact your local dealer. Partly for the reason you described, I sold my Selden and fitted a permanent bowsprit. I won't say it's better, just different to what they have on the 389. I would post a link to my photos or the thread about my bowsprit but my internet is rubbish. But I bought it from this company in Sweden www.batsystem.se/en If it was something you are interested in you might be able to get one custom made locally. If you go bow first into your marina pen, it could be a good setup for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 17:26:21 GMT
Do you have the stem fitting with an eye between the bow rollers?
In which case you don't need a bowsprit; my 900 sq ft assymetric spinnaker (including a Karver Top Down furler) sets well with the tack/furler attached to the stem eye.
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Post by MalcolmP on Sept 18, 2015 12:54:06 GMT
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Post by iancymru on Sept 18, 2015 23:18:38 GMT
Should be an optional extra more than a new model, it just looks what it is a bit stuck on the front and distracts from the good boat astern of it. Imagine the comments if any other manufacturer did the same. Id rather a 379 with a bowsprit or some teak and stainless for an extra foot its not even moulded in its just stuck on.
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Post by zeiler21 on Jan 30, 2017 10:38:43 GMT
I have been considering adding a bowsprit to fly an asymmetric on my 379 The Seldon looks good but gets in the way of the anchor locker which would seem to be a nuisance if one wanted to leave the sail furled while temporarily anchored it would seem that the 379 + 10 is because jeanneau recognises the advantage of the bowsprit and the need to make it so that the anchor is always accesible is anyone aware of if it is possible to buy the bowsprit from jeanneau that is used on the 389 and retrofit it - or is there a better option |
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Post by zeiler21 on Jan 30, 2017 10:44:28 GMT
Did you buy the original bowsprit from Jeanneau or have you placed the Sélden bowsprit ? |
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Post by Aroha on Jan 30, 2017 11:33:53 GMT
I've decided against retrofitting the original Jeanneau part and am still trying to decide between the Seldon and the trogear that hoppy pointed to ~ I think that the seldon seems 'better' in terms of removability when not wanted but the trogear obviates mucking up the anchor locker and pulls up out of the way reasonably well. I like the lack of intrusion of the trogear into the foredeck space in general. However the trogear is not cheap at $AUD2900 plus fitting and with the cost I'm struggling to justify it for the extra utiiity that it will give compared to spending the same on either some other item of gear ( or perhaps an additional week of sailing rather than working!)
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Post by so36idavid on Jan 30, 2017 16:42:04 GMT
FWIW I have the Selden. You're right, it does interfere with the anchor, not terribly but it is an irritation. So I keep the pole below and only rig it on days when I think we might use the spinnaker. It takes all of 30 seconds to rig it. Let me know if you want pics.
David
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Post by vsergio on Jan 30, 2017 18:05:25 GMT
I have the Selden installed and got used to retrieve it aft to open the anchor locker so it is not an issue for me. If you are single handling the boat, prior to dropping the anchor you can reduce the speed and engage the autopilot which will allow you to walk to the bow, pull back the selden and open the anchor locker. In addition to the windlass remote that sits in the locker I also have a wireless one so when I go back to the helm I am ready to drop the anchor.
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Post by hoppy on Jan 30, 2017 20:20:51 GMT
I've decided against retrofitting the original Jeanneau part and am still trying to decide between the Seldon and the trogear that hoppy pointed to ~ I think that the seldon seems 'better' in terms of removability when not wanted but the trogear obviates mucking up the anchor locker and pulls up out of the way reasonably well. I like the lack of intrusion of the trogear into the foredeck space in general. However the trogear is not cheap at $AUD2900 plus fitting and with the cost I'm struggling to justify it for the extra utiiity that it will give compared to spending the same on either some other item of gear ( or perhaps an additional week of sailing rather than working!) I found another bowsprit that is similar to Trogear www.csprit.com/ Probably just as expensive. I like having a permanently fitted bowsprit especially as I have two sails I use with the same roller which stays mounted semi-permanently when cruising. You could get something like this.  Unfortunately for me, mine makes my LOA about 20cm two long for my clubs marina berth and the next berth size up is nearly $2k more. I will see if I can shorten it and if not, probably go back to Selden or similar for the same reason you are struggling with Trogear. Once in Melbourne, I won't be anchoring much, so the Selden can live in the retracted position in the marina. When I previously had the Selden, when not in use it was mounted on the stanchions at the bow. One stanchion had a spinnaker pole ring and the other had a u-bolt which the pole clipped onto. I was happy with that setup.  |
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