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Post by hoppy on Jun 19, 2015 17:14:55 GMT
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Post by MartyB on Jun 20, 2015 5:27:03 GMT
While deaf, somewhat hard to see on phone, but me eyes say I see two motor styles boats. One me wife drives, the other I drives me dinghy with!
Marty
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Post by hoppy on Jun 20, 2015 9:21:22 GMT
Was just looking at what's needed to be done for me to have a 2nd headsail halyard. I realise that I need to reposition the lazy jack line (small yellow line) as it is directly inline with the free hole for another halyard. Anyone got any thoughts on whether it is a good or bad thing to replace a jammer with a clutch on the mast?
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Post by hoppy on Jun 20, 2015 9:26:26 GMT
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Post by erkan on Jun 20, 2015 16:56:48 GMT
English is not mother language, sorry for the "female" expression. Then how do you call this "non male" part in English I have tried with different things like wd40 and many others. Only hammering works. But I see now I can just cut the middle part and problem will be solved for ever.
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Post by MartyB on Jun 22, 2015 14:11:01 GMT
Erkan,
I would refer to it as female part also. "Pig on a stick" would be a bit more on the slang term of things.
The part you have, could be cut, with out harming the male threaded portion, locally here in states, most chandlers with sailboat rigging have spares on the shelves, or at least access from major rigging suppliers or if a large chain retailer like West Marine, at the warehouse with a three to five day no cost get it to me. or extra shipping fees for overnight. parts cost in the scheme of things are reasonably cheap. Probably in general terms, cheaper to cut than the time spent to loosen up. Especially if you are paying someone for a couple of hours labor to unstick, vs buying a new part for 15-30 min of wage cost equal depending upon boat size, female coupler size and style etc.
Do not worry about english being a second language. Most on here will ask a verify question if the wording does not seem correct. I have seen on another forum I am on, one or two complain about language skills, but those folks usually get chastised for going after the english 2nd language person and in turn back off. Malcom had to choose something for here, he knows english....right or wrong, here we are conversing as best we can to solve our common sailboat brand issues.
Marty
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Post by erkan on Jun 23, 2015 9:49:58 GMT
Thanks a lot MartyB, I fully agree with you. Cutting turnbuckles will be much easier and less costly. Also thanks for your comments on English Brgds, Erkan
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Post by hoppy on Jul 8, 2015 17:24:37 GMT
Everything is finally here (except the Harken roller which is stuck in Greek customs). So the mast goes up tomorrow and I'll sail the next day.
If the Harken does not land in Corfu by Monday or Tuesday (unless I fined another excuse to remain in Corfu) I've told them I will cancel and perhaps replace the roller over winter unless I lose interest. Luckily I had a problem with the forestay 2 winters ago and replaced it, so I can put the old roller/forestay back on. It seemed like a good idea at the time to order the Harken.
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Post by hoppy on Jul 8, 2015 17:29:42 GMT
(little anekdote: some months ago, we had a boat that came from Turkey, with 2 broken stays. They were replaced in Turkey. But as these turkish "riggers" didnĀ“t have a hydraulic terminal press, they just welded the wire to the terminals!!! ) I think my guys are ok other than they are disorganised and forgetful Greeks. They do have a press, I've seen it. They forgot to order the spreader endcaps from the store and the store guy forgot to place the order in Athens which has been my latest delay Last time I'd checked, they still hadn't replaced the rivets which I keep reminding them to do. I'll be checking them as soon as I tie up where they will fit the mast back on.
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Post by vasko on Jul 8, 2015 21:16:32 GMT
Did you got everything done finally - time for some sailing for you !
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Post by hoppy on Jul 9, 2015 7:33:31 GMT
today is mast day...
I found out that the people who were making the inner forestay tang could not bend the SS in a tight enough radius which would mean the hole in the mast would have to be rater wide. So I have given up on that now and will buy and fit the wichard tang over winter. Someone can have fun up the mast then
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Post by jez on Jul 9, 2015 13:57:47 GMT
So if understand correctly, only the middle female part will be cut. I will be able to use the wire and the terminal? Pls say yes In this instance, using "female" sounds a bit strange. My friends and I call it "pig on a spit" But yes, you only cut the part you turn which luckily is the easy to replace part. But first try what Don suggested. If you have to cut, you probably need to be careful to not go to deep. I'm under the impression that you probably don't need to go as deep as the thread. Centre female part of a turnbuckle is called the 'barrel'. Oil them, then hit the barrel above the seized thread area with 2 hammers at 180 degrees either side (So one takes the shock of the other) This freed mine up. See you saturday hoppy.
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Post by hoppy on Jul 9, 2015 16:11:32 GMT
In this instance, using "female" sounds a bit strange. My friends and I call it "pig on a spit" But yes, you only cut the part you turn which luckily is the easy to replace part. But first try what Don suggested. If you have to cut, you probably need to be careful to not go to deep. I'm under the impression that you probably don't need to go as deep as the thread. Centre female part of a turnbuckle is called the 'barrel'. Oil them, then hit the barrel above the seized thread area with 2 hammers at 180 degrees either side (So one takes the shock of the other) This freed mine up. See you saturday hoppy. Ohh see you then, I'll be the Jeanneau with a mast So it is up now, finally I have realised that there are a couple of little jobs that need to be finished before I can have a sail, so I might not get out sailing tomorrow.
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Post by erkan on Jul 13, 2015 12:38:06 GMT
Thanks Jez, I oiled the barrels 3 days. And finally they turn now after hammering. I also tried to cut one barrel, it was not easy but possible. But the new one costed 50+ euros and changing all would be expensive in this case. I am happy that oiling and hammering worked.
By the way, the barrel and the "male" parts are made of different materials, what can be the resson? If the reason is to unscrew them easily, it does not work!
Hoppy, I hope you completed all work and enjoying your boat now.
Brgds, Erkan
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Post by hoppy on Jul 13, 2015 15:32:27 GMT
Hoppy, I hope you completed all work and enjoying your boat now. Still in the marina and yet to sail. I should have sailed Sunday but went out Saturday night and drunk too many G&T and poor judgement lead me to throwing down a Tequila shot. First time I've done a night like that in Greece Today the sparky finally showed up to wire up my new started battery. Tomorrow morning I'll get some wood work done to cover the battery in the cupboard and then I might have the first sail for 2015 My harken roller is out of customs and might show up here later this week. I think I'll disappear and come back to fit it when it's in Corfu and in the hands of the riggers when they have time to fit it.
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Post by hoppy on Jul 23, 2015 19:51:17 GMT
Sailed for 5 days then returned for the harken ? It was fitted and I left at lunch thine to cruise Greece and probably not return until November, or so I thought. 5nm from the marina the wind picked you to high 20s and I had the full sails up. Rounded up a couple of times and then depowered the main whilst I reefed the headsail. Then released the main halyard to put in the first reef. The main was flapping and then there was a crashing metal sound with the flapping. I looked at the boom and it was much lower than normal. The pin holding the boom had fallen out. I managed to tie up the boom so I could drop the main. It seems that when the riggers put the boom back on they forgot to put in a split pin. I guess the friction of the boom pressing into the pin held the pin in place. A first I could not see the pin and thought it went swimming but found it as I approached the marina. Given the struggle the riggers encountered fitting the pin, I was lucky it happened so close to the marina as fitting it myself would have been a struggle.
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Post by vasko on Jul 23, 2015 20:37:42 GMT
Sailed for 5 days then returned for the harken ? It was fitted and I left at lunch thine to cruise Greece and probably not return until November, or so I thought. 5nm from the marina the wind picked you to high 20s and I had the full sails up. Rounded up a couple of times and then depowered the main whilst I reefed the headsail. Then released the main halyard to put in the first reef. The main was flapping and then there was a crashing metal sound with the flapping. I looked at the boom and it was much lower than normal. The pin holding the boom had fallen out. I managed to tie up the boom so I could drop the main. It seems that when the riggers put the boom back on they forgot to put in a split pin. I guess the friction of the boom pressing into the pin held the pin in place. A first I could not see the pin and thought it went swimming but found it as I approached the marina. Given the struggle the riggers encountered fitting the pin, I was lucky it happened so close to the marina as fitting it myself would have been a struggle. Next time read carefully what I'm writing ) "check every single peace of work in the rigging yourself after the pros has finished .... last time my rigging was changed I found one locking pin not properly fitted .... and next day I was in a really heavy weather in the channel ... if I haven't found the small issue I may have been dismasted... and this is job done from professionals in UK/Port Solent , I can only imagine what can be done in Greece having already long experience there... " btw: I had similar experience with falling\loosing not properly fitted prop too ! now I'm either doing it myself or checking and moaning for every single small details... and always ask to keep last 30% of the payment after a week of using - this makes the pro fitters to think more...
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