safetypeter
Junior Member
Posts: 11 
Jeanneau Model: SO 36I Performance, 2010
Yacht Name: Scubadoo
Home Port: Abu Dhabi
Country: UAE
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Post by safetypeter on Apr 17, 2014 4:52:15 GMT
Being a complete novice and having recently purchased a 2010 Jeanneau 36i i am bound to encounter problems, one that concerns me at the moment is that the mainsail return ratchet fitted to the base of the mast will not ratchet, meaning i have to remove the winch handle on each rotation as it clashes with the boom, does anyone have a simple fix for this problem? Thanks in advance.
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Post by Quiddle on Apr 17, 2014 8:42:49 GMT
Hi, and welcome to the forum.
Not sure what you mean by this, I don't use a winch handle anywhere near the mast on my 36i. Do you have a mast mounted winch for reefing? If so, it is not standard on the boat, which is supplied with single line reefing in the cockpit, so may have been incorrectly positioned. If it's single speed you should be able to reverse direction without removing the handle. A photo would be useful.
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safetypeter
Junior Member
Posts: 11
Jeanneau Model: SO 36I Performance, 2010
Yacht Name: Scubadoo
Home Port: Abu Dhabi
Country: UAE
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Post by safetypeter on Apr 17, 2014 9:33:11 GMT
Hi, The ratchet is for rolling the mainsail into the mast, i believe it is standard factory fit having known the previous owners who basically bought the boat new from France and used it for a total of 10 hrs in the 3 years+ that they owned her. It is situated at the aft of the mast just below the boom, it has settings on the top saying free and rotate if i remember correctly (i am in the office at the moment), it will ratchet in one direction till you reach the boom, at this point it should freely return in order for you to continue the drawing in of the sail but it wont. You have to take the winch handle out and re-position it again for another 330 degree rotation. I have found an photo in my files and cropped to show the ratchet, it is shown in the cropped photo, i hope it helps. Thanks for your help. Peter  Attachment Deleted |
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Post by Quiddle on Apr 17, 2014 16:34:30 GMT
My mistake - hadn't considered in mast furling gear. You can get different length winch handles - 8" and 10" are common sizes so maybe you're using a 10"?
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Post by sitara on Apr 17, 2014 22:02:50 GMT
Hi SafetyPeter,
I don't have in mast furling on my SO36i but it would seem to me that there should be lines that lead from the furling drum (the mast fitting) back to the cockpit so that it can all be controlled from there. The whole idea of in mast furling is to keep the crew in the cockpit. I have the stack pack boom bag and putting the main away in a swell standing on the coach house roof is not the most pleasant occupation!
The SO 36I is a great boat to sail - hope you get many many hours of fun sailing.
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Post by sitara on Apr 18, 2014 0:03:55 GMT
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safetypeter
Junior Member
Posts: 11
Jeanneau Model: SO 36I Performance, 2010
Yacht Name: Scubadoo
Home Port: Abu Dhabi
Country: UAE
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Post by safetypeter on Apr 19, 2014 4:10:37 GMT
Thanks for all the advise, I will check for lines to the cockpit and visit the selden website. Failing that I will get an 8 inch ratchet handle. Thanks again
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 19, 2014 4:42:45 GMT
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 19, 2014 5:02:54 GMT
Hi SafetyPeter, I don't have in mast furling on my SO36i but it would seem to me that there should be lines that lead from the furling drum (the mast fitting) back to the cockpit so that it can all be controlled from there. The whole idea of in mast furling is to keep the crew in the cockpit. I have the stack pack boom bag and putting the main away in a swell standing on the coach house roof is not the most pleasant occupation! The SO 36I is a great boat to sail - hope you get many many hours of fun sailing. Indeed Sitara , having the lines run all the way to the cockpit is a priceless luxury Couldn't be that hard to rerun a line. Have done that some years ago with the jib furling line . I had to combine the port winch for furling the jib and port tacking. Could not stand the idea/thought that one day my wife would lose a finger while switching port lines so I decided to run the jib furling line over the deck straight to my cockpit. Turned out to be one of my better modifications Apparently Jeanneau did not come up with the innovation of providing this way of furling on a 40DS , the 43DS has had that feature from the start though Make sure to use serious backplates and Tec7/Sikaflex when installing the line guides on deck . Strain and leaks remember. Regards |
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Post by Trevor on Apr 19, 2014 11:48:24 GMT
Hello Safetypeter,
The in mast furling on the 42DS (and presumably the same on the 36i) has a 10mm "endless line" that is run back to the coachroof, through 2 clutches and the loop can be wrapped around a winch to furl the main if required. On our boat the outhaul is on the Starboard side and the furling lines are on the Port side. To reef or furl, the furling line is put around the port coach roof winch and the outhaul is wrapped around the starboard coachroof winch and released as the mainsail is taken in. All activities are from the cockpit and can be handled by one person easily.
The lever you mentioned to release or lock the furler in my case is always in the "free" position as the furling lines are locked on the clutches on the coachroof which stops the mainsail unfurling even in a severe breeze.
I would definitely run the lines. The tricky bit is doing the splice to join both ends together so it will run through the clutches smoothly.
I hope this helps,
Regards,
Trevor
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Post by alenka on Apr 19, 2014 14:43:35 GMT
The cost of buying a Winchrite is probably going to be more than getting a rigger or boatyard to re-run your furling/outhaul lines to the cockpit.
This is a far better option in my opinion. I have owned and used a winchrite for some years. They are big, heavy and not always that easy to use.
Paying to have your lines run aft will be the best money you will ever spend on your boat!
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safetypeter
Junior Member
Posts: 11
Jeanneau Model: SO 36I Performance, 2010
Yacht Name: Scubadoo
Home Port: Abu Dhabi
Country: UAE
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Post by safetypeter on Apr 19, 2014 15:22:06 GMT
Being very new to yachting and these forums, I am overwhelmed by the help and advise I am receiving, it truly is comforting knowing I only have to ask and the answers flood in, thank you all very much.
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 19, 2014 15:44:15 GMT
The cost of buying a Winchrite is probably going to be more than getting a rigger or boatyard to re-run your furling/outhaul lines to the cockpit. This is a far better option in my opinion. I have owned and used a winchrite for some years. They are big, heavy and not always that easy to use. Paying to have your lines run aft will be the best money you will ever spend on your boat! alenka , as I mentioned (in the winchrite topic) there are much cheaper and also efficient options. Just trying to help. Regards |
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Post by Trevor on Apr 19, 2014 23:23:28 GMT
Hello all, I can eye splice double braid line but the one splice that has worried me is the "endless loop" splice that is used on my in mast furling system. This thread encouraged me to research how to do that splice for when I have to replace that line. This youtube video shows just how easy it is to do that splice. It is really easy so I am no longer concerned.  Regards, Trevor |
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Post by alenka on Apr 20, 2014 22:36:50 GMT
Sailbleau,
My comments about 'winchrite' were not meant to undermine your thoughts and advice on this subject. I posted them merely to point out that this piece of kit, as good as it is, is (in my opinion) not the simple solution that some belive it to be. I don't doubt that there are cheaper, perhaps better, alternatives. But I still believe if lines can be led aft to the cockpit this is the best/safest solution.
Please don't take offence - None was meant.
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