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Post by ianpowolny on Feb 14, 2014 13:21:18 GMT
The old knees are hurting and putting the outboard on the dinghy is becoming 'interesting'. I have a plan to add a single davit on the stern of Affinity but seem to have either to pay an awful lot of money (between £200 and £300) for one or buy a pair. Would anyone like buy the second davit (£162.50 plus postage) www.piplers.co.uk/osculati-stainless-steel-swivelling-davitsIan
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Post by jdl01 on Feb 15, 2014 23:16:57 GMT
Garhauer in southern California makes a good single 2" dia pole hoist with a removable arm and 6x1 purchase. It's good for 110 lb 4 stroke outboards and retails in Canada for $400.
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Post by ianpowolny on Feb 16, 2014 9:26:58 GMT
Thanks for the info. This is about the same price as here in the UK. Guess I'll have to buy two and sell the second on eBay.
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Post by jdl01 on Feb 16, 2014 21:46:07 GMT
Hi Ian, There is only one unit involved - not two - from Garhauer
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Post by Amun Ra on Feb 17, 2014 17:24:59 GMT
I have an outboard hoist on my 43DS. It is mounted on the starboard quarter and allows me to lift and sit the outboard on its bracket. To use the outboard, I move the rib and tie its bow line off to the starboard midships cleat, with the rib's stern under the hoist. My wife swings the outboard out and lowers it down straight onto the rib's transom - and vice versa. Works a treat.
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Post by ianpowolny on Feb 18, 2014 9:26:17 GMT
Thanks for the information.
Presently we tie our dinghy off across the transom as you do on your starboard quarter and then walk the outboard down the sugar scoop steps. It’s not a great system and I can see I’ll end up in the sea at some point.
We plan to add Weaver Snap Davits this year as well as the outboard lift davit.
Any thoughts???
Ian
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Post by Amun Ra on Feb 18, 2014 21:20:01 GMT
Hi Ian,
I do that sometimes! (walk the outboard down, that is, not fall in the sea!)
We have thought through Snap Davits and have come close on several occasions. What has stopped me is that I do not know how to get sufficient access into the transom void in order to glue in a ply backing plate for the davits. We lift the rib (Bombard AX500) onto the swim platform, just as we would if we had davits, then secure it there with ropes. Makes a great place for all the fenders on passage!
We can do that so easily that I have kept putting off Snap Davits - even if it was easy to fit the backing plates. The other aspect I have considered is the supposed advantage of 'snapping' the rib to the boat, so that children (I have a few!) and kit can be taken out securely. I'm not convinced that the height of the 43DS's swim platform would allow that easily....at least not without the Weaver extension system.
So, we carry on with our compromise, which is to lash the rib up, and hoist the outboard up/down with the outboard hoist.
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Post by MalcolmP on Feb 20, 2014 12:04:02 GMT
I fitted Snap Davits on our previous 34.2 to carry a Yamboat 2.6 (I think) they worked OK but not perfect, quite expensive and bit of a fiddle to fit. Important to get them high enough to ensure the dinghy stern is well clear of the water when well heeled. On the 39i we have simply used lashings in a similar way to Amun Ra and it works very well and although our new dinghy a Lodestar 2.3 is quite light, but probably is a better arrangement than I had with the snap davits Just to step through the process, we have 2 extra handrails ( a bit like these at: www.jeanneau-owners.com/hintsandtips/Pushpitstrengthening.html ) which go down to the lower step on the bathing platform. I use these to tie the dinghy fore and aft then have a long midships line from the outside edge of the dinghy which I can lead back up into the cockpit. I can then simply haul on the line and the dinghy effectively hinges up onto the stern. Takes a little while to get the optimum lashings and I also now close the guardwires before I haul in case the weight decides to try to pull me back over the transom! Malcolm
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Post by ianpowolny on Feb 24, 2014 7:12:53 GMT
Malcolm, what kind of lashing do you use - rope or cargo straps? Ian
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Post by MalcolmP on Feb 24, 2014 8:17:38 GMT
Malcolm, what kind of lashing do you use - rope or cargo straps? Ian Hi Ian I am just using line of about 8mm, but I am able to secure the dinghy without any of the support lines bearing directly onto the dinghy fabric - generally they are tied off from the dinghy grablines. If on your boat the support lines bear directly onto the fabric then webbing would be a better of way of reducing risk of chaffing. Malcolm
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moodybod
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Post by moodybod on Feb 24, 2014 9:17:18 GMT
As the now owner of Wild Dream featured in this thread I have scrapped the outboard crane shown as even using this arrangement the 4 hp outboard was a pain. Have changed to a Mariner 3.3 2 stroke which I can lift and manoeuvre quite easily with one hand ( with safety line attached). We also have a Lodestar dinghy which sits on the step and is held with 8mm line through dinghy jam cleats with captive line feeders. The jam cleats mean we are able to do fine adjustments or indeed rest part way if necessary. With this arrangement I can launch and recover the dingy by myself as there are no knots to tie/adjust and is the work of minutes with little physical effort though two make the job easier.
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Post by Amun Ra on Feb 25, 2014 17:18:36 GMT
I am carrying a 3.1m rib across the step/stern on my 43, and lifting and mounting a 6Hp Tohatsu (25Kg) on the outboard bracket. We have sailed that through breaking seas (where I had to reposition the rib up from the 'bumper' to the step...learnt a lesson there..) and been heavily heeled, but the system has worked perfectly for us.
I too use 8mm, or sometimes 10mm mooring warps to secure the rib and attach through its grab handles, figure of 8 around its stern tube sections, and of course tie off the painter. I think it is much more versatile and secure than using snap davits...and I don't have any holes in my swim platform!
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Post by dnickj on Feb 25, 2014 20:51:37 GMT
Hi I could be interested in half of the pair I will take to the boat with a tape measure to see how it will fit
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