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Post by MalcolmP on Dec 1, 2014 8:34:00 GMT
Good video (Italian commentary) by the Boat Show - shows the bridle arrangement for the main and jib very well
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Post by iancymru on Dec 1, 2014 12:12:21 GMT
A great looking boat, I do wonder though about the bridle arrangement, and why jeanneau do not put it on other models with the main sheet arrangement on the coachroof as it does appear to get the boom onto the centre line more effectively. My concern would be (as shown in the video) at some boom angles the weight is only being taken by the windward part of the strop and hence all the load is on the windward deck fitting, I wonder if these deck fittings have been beefed up. I have a 33i on order and asked the dealer if I could have this bridle arrangement fitted and was told they would not consider it until they have seen how the arrangement fairs on the 349.
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Post by singoviv on Dec 1, 2014 18:55:26 GMT
The Y bridle works! I was lucky enough to do the 7islands race on Sydney Harbour on Saturday with Team Jeanneau:)
Here are some shots from my GOPro.
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Post by monday on Dec 3, 2014 17:36:01 GMT
Awesome shots. Still makin' me long for warm weather! Also, rethinking having put the dodger on, but seems everyone in the PNW insists that a dodger is a good idea. I did try and keep it super low profile. [also the sail cover will be swapped to match the dodger]. and, for those who care, the Harken wheel covers fit perfect.
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Post by monday on Dec 3, 2014 17:50:01 GMT
Singoviv- What main was on the boat? thoughts? What were the conditions? How'd you do? Any more thoughts on the prebend. Attached is a shot FWIW with no backstay tension. Allegedly the boat is set up to factory specs. And although it might not show it - there is a fair amount of prebend. But if the sails are cut for it - should be no worries. Also, I am trying to get ahold of the polar charts for the big main vs the standard main.
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Post by singoviv on Dec 4, 2014 19:16:32 GMT
Could you advise the harken part number and cost for the wheel covers ?
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Post by monday on Dec 4, 2014 19:25:12 GMT
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Post by singoviv on Dec 5, 2014 10:57:39 GMT
Thanks
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Post by J349er on Dec 6, 2014 20:53:23 GMT
A great looking boat, I do wonder though about the bridle arrangement, and why jeanneau do not put it on other models with the main sheet arrangement on the coachroof as it does appear to get the boom onto the centre line more effectively. My concern would be (as shown in the video) at some boom angles the weight is only being taken by the windward part of the strop and hence all the load is on the windward deck fitting, I wonder if these deck fittings have been beefed up. I have a 33i on order and asked the dealer if I could have this bridle arrangement fitted and was told they would not consider it until they have seen how the arrangement fairs on the 349. The bridles seem to hold well on my 349 but last week-end, the shackle that attaches them to the main sheet block broke. Although I tend to check my rigging on a regular basis, there is a slight possibility that the shackle pin may have got loose without me noticing it but nevertheless, it was a bit of a surprise to loose control of the main underway. Fortunately, we were sailing in light winds. I was able to repair on the spot by replacing the shackle with a small loop of Dynema line. Any suggestion on the best way to secure a shackle pin? I have seen plastic ties used for this purpose but not sure this is very secure. We'll see how well the Dynema bridles last (my 349 has only been on the water for 2 months) but it may be a good idea to carry a spare on board. Back in late summer, we sailed through a couple of strong storms with winds varying from 30 to 50kt and that put the rigging through a good stress test. See video below (I stopped filming once winds passed the 40kt mark, too busy...)
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Post by singoviv on Dec 6, 2014 22:28:37 GMT
Great video.. Love a bloke who says, 30 knots no need to reef !
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Post by Don Reaves on Dec 7, 2014 12:52:40 GMT
This is clearly a case where the 349's double rudder pays off. There's no way I could have been sailing in 30 knots of wind with a full main in my SO35.
Don
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Post by monday on Dec 8, 2014 19:09:41 GMT
J349r nice vid. how fast were you going? What was she like off the wind? Separately. Despite my desire for a square headed main... I am having difficulty seeing differences in these charts. Thoughts anybody?
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Post by MartyB on Dec 9, 2014 4:44:33 GMT
90-180 off wind appears to be .25-.5 knots faster. Not a lot faster. Now if they would have raised the mast a foot or 2, square top main, and made the keel 7' deep.........Id bet the off wind and potentially upwind would have been a lot different. But being as those are using the lift keel, there still should be some difference if the mast was taller to boot too!
marty
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Post by J349er on Dec 9, 2014 14:44:34 GMT
J349r nice vid. how fast were you going? What was she like off the wind? Separately. Despite my desire for a square headed main... I am having difficulty seeing differences in these charts. Thoughts anybody? We were close hauled and probably doing 6 or 7kt, not the fastest point of sail with this kind of wind but fun. The twin rudders definitely help minimize weather helm when having a bit too much sails.
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Post by J349er on Dec 9, 2014 14:56:52 GMT
Awesome shots. Still makin' me long for warm weather! Also, rethinking having put the dodger on, but seems everyone in the PNW insists that a dodger is a good idea. I did try and keep it super low profile. [also the sail cover will be swapped to match the dodger]. and, for those who care, the Harken wheel covers fit perfect. Very nice dodger! especially the cutouts to make room for the sheets. I went with the factory canvas, fairly well made at a good price but with some design flaws. The dodger cutouts for the jib and main sheets are not big enough (sheets pull the base of the dodger out of its rail...) and the aft bimini supports really get in the way of the helmsman, see picture.
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Post by monday on Dec 9, 2014 23:16:39 GMT
349er-
So speaking of dodgers... how wet a ride is the 349 in a 30 knot blow??
Also, it looked like you do not have the table how do your passengers feel about moving around the wide cockpit? Any plans/thoughts to put a kickboard in the cockpit to help crew footing?
FYI - You're the heavy weather 349 source now!
Cheers-
David
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Post by singoviv on Dec 10, 2014 1:08:04 GMT
You have the carbon wheels... Drool ! Not a fan of the navy blue Bimini on a Taupe accented boat - sorry was the colour choice a factory option?
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Post by J349er on Dec 10, 2014 13:12:45 GMT
You have the carbon wheels... Drool ! Not a fan of the navy blue Bimini on a Taupe accented boat - sorry was the colour choice a factory option? The blue canvas was a result of dealer error, I have now all taupe canvas
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Post by J349er on Dec 10, 2014 13:18:46 GMT
349er- So speaking of dodgers... how wet a ride is the 349 in a 30 knot blow?? Also, it looked like you do not have the table how do your passengers feel about moving around the wide cockpit? Any plans/thoughts to put a kickboard in the cockpit to help crew footing?
FYI - You're the heavy weather 349 source now!
Cheers-
DavidCockpit stays surprisingly dry, very little water get splashed in, even in choppy seas. I do have a cockpit table and it has very good hand and foot rails. Very useful.
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Post by singoviv on Dec 10, 2014 19:38:14 GMT
Taupe is my wife's favourite colour. We went to the Sydney boat show this year and she said let's look at this boat, I like the colour.... So I had to buy one to keep the wife happy I don't think she will be happy with the the code zero, carbon pole and spinnaker... But I will
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Post by monday on Dec 10, 2014 20:21:27 GMT
Hey that should be easy = get the Code 0 in taupe!
What are you doing for a pole?
I am going with a Selden in aluminum. The weight saving in carbon was negligible and, if memory serves, the unsupported length was actually less. Any Idea how far out your pole will be [insert inappropriate comment here]? Don't know if it matters so much for your sailing but here the waterway is North/South and so is the wind. Therefore the need to drive deeper is pretty high and thus increasing the pole length is important.
If there is another better option for the pole - I'd love to know.
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Post by singoviv on Dec 10, 2014 20:39:54 GMT
Carbon Seldon pole - as for length, I'll ask the dealer for you.
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Post by monday on Dec 10, 2014 21:03:25 GMT
Cool. Thanks. Can you find out which diameter as well? We found the slot afforded by the stem fitting and the stanchion was a bit of a limiting factor.
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Post by MalcolmP on Dec 10, 2014 22:54:16 GMT
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Post by singoviv on Dec 10, 2014 22:58:33 GMT
Cool. Thanks. Can you find out which diameter as well? We found the slot afforded by the stem fitting and the stanchion was a bit of a limiting factor. The pole we used for the 7 islands race was 1 ft longer than J according to Ron from PBS. I assume they will get something similar for me. With the symmetrical kite up we ran pretty shy
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