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Post by so40gtb on Mar 19, 2012 2:02:37 GMT
We have a sale contract on our shoal-draft SO34.2, so our replacement boat search starts soon.
I'm strongly biased toward full-fin-keel boats, but, I'm wondering if the shoal-draft SO37 has the same leeway issues upwind as the shoal-draft SO34.2 and SO35. At best, we could tack through 110° with our SO34.2. My "holy grail" is 90° - and I'm assuming that the shoal-draft SO37 won't get there, even if it does better than the shorter SOs.
Comments? (Yes, Marty, I know about the SF37 in Texas!)
--Karl
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Post by MartyB on Mar 20, 2012 21:32:28 GMT
Hey Karl,
Rumor has it there is an sf37 in Texas!......oh wait a minute, you know about it..........dang.......
I would swag that you will have similar issues with ANY Shoal draft boat as you do your 34.2 frankly. The 37 may do better as it is a newer hull design etc. The SF would be stiffer as it has the same draft or a shade deeper as an std draft SO37, but the keel is made of lead vs iron along with being heavier.
You will have to get some wait for folks with SD SO 37's to comment. I've gotten to with in 60-70* with my 5.5' draft 30' boat. I'd go a std if it were me. The water is not THAT skinny in the GL's is it?
Marty
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Post by Don Reaves on Mar 20, 2012 22:53:19 GMT
I'd trade my shoal draft keel for a fin any time. Of course, it's on a SO 35, which you know all about...
Don
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Post by so40gtb on Mar 22, 2012 11:55:22 GMT
Marty, I didn't think that any Euro boats could use lead in their keels. Anyway, the Admiral is reluctant to even look at a 37, having it in her mind that a 3' increase in length is not nearly enough and her entertaining objectives can't be met below 38 feet, despite having been entertained on a 37 more than once. We're touring an SO40 this weekend and looking at another early next week - both with full-depth keels.
--Karl
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Post by MartyB on Mar 22, 2012 15:52:10 GMT
Karl,
There are quite a few with lead bulbs, and keels. BUT< being as the lead supply in Europe has pretty well been mined out from what I have heard, the cost of lead is dang near prohibitive. So most are built with iron as I understand it. BUT, I could be wrong!
Having been aboard a 35 and a 37, there is not a lot of difference imho as far as room goes. So you might as well move up to a 40. Or if you can find one you can afford, an SO39iP is probably the most powered up Jeanneau in a number of years. They rate local PHRF on par to a bit slower, with C&C 115's, J109's etc. upper 70's into the mid 80 range. Where as the SO37 is upper 120's, not much faster than your 34.2. SF35 is 105 or there abouts here in the sound, sf37 115-120 IIRC
Marty
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Post by MartyB on Mar 22, 2012 15:56:48 GMT
now that I am looking up ratings....
JEANNEAU 34 MELODY 126 126 126
JEANNEAU 34 SUNRISE 132 144 135
JEANNEAU 34 SUNRISE CB 138 141 138
JEANNEAU 35 SUN ODYSS 108 153 129
JEANNEAU 35 SUN ODYSS SD 123 132 126
JEANNEAU 35 SUNFAST 78 114 96
JEANNEAU 37 SUN FAST 102 120 108
JEANNEAU 37 SUN ODYSS SD 114 174 135
JEANNEAU 40 66 96 84
JEANNEAU 40 SUN ODYS SD 90 114 102
1st number is highest/fastest rating, middle the lowest/slowest, and last ave from US sailing.
Marty
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