jcurry
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Post by jcurry on Nov 21, 2006 3:47:14 GMT
The boat is a Sun 2000, looking for recommendations on placing two cockpit speakers. I guess my options are below the cockpit seats and thats about it, but I thought someone may have a bright idea.
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Post by toneill on Nov 21, 2006 16:27:40 GMT
This is one of the best idea's I ever copied. If your speakers are mounted low in the cockpit(under the seat) put the speaker's behind a round screw-on deck plate. On a rough day screw the plates back in, it'll give you a better shot of staying dry below.
tom
S/V Evangeline
sl 41
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rjet
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Post by rjet on Mar 25, 2014 1:23:28 GMT
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Post by davideso37 on Mar 28, 2014 11:23:43 GMT
This is one of the best idea's I ever copied. If your speakers are mounted low in the cockpit(under the seat) put the speaker's behind a round screw-on deck plate. On a rough day screw the plates back in, it'll give you a better shot of staying dry below. tom S/V Evangeline sl 41 I have put my cockpit speakers behind screw in inspection hatches. if the speakers are below deck level this is necessary to have a water tight cockpit. One should not rely on the speaker to keep water out of the hull. Regards David |
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Post by On y va on Mar 28, 2014 14:28:08 GMT
Very sensible comment David. Speakers are "the weakest link" in that respect.
I was just about to install speaker in the rear lockers (behind the steering wheels) but I will revise my plan and look into this. Thanks! Never too old to learn something!
Marco
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 2, 2014 4:57:33 GMT
There is however a way to reinforce or upgrade the speakers to lets say IP54 by convering the very thin leads with epoxy resin.
Although this is already factory-done (not with epoxy I presume) it doesn't harm to give it an extra coat.
If the speakers go dead on you it's because of corroded wires.
The membrane is also coated with a waterresistant layer , some additional spray varnish also helps.
Regards
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 2, 2014 5:01:22 GMT
Hate putting holes in my boat. I just put in two cockpit speakers in the table base, thus requiring only 1/4 inch (6.2 mm) hole in the decking, not a 4 inch hole! I have submitted more pictures to "Hints and Tips." Here's the basic set up: View Attachment View AttachmentRjet , this location nearly requires a IP65 . Straight into the line of fire I would say. I would consider giving them an extra treatment described as above. Regards |
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rjet
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Post by rjet on Apr 2, 2014 19:29:13 GMT
Yes, I think you are right about some sort of protection. It did take me a bit to look up IP65 to know what you continental chaps were talking about, however I think we in the colonies can come up with something quite similar and I plan to do so. It strikes me that the connections and the rear speaker are where we need protection. One reason I did not splurge for the absolute sine qua non in speakers, besides my limited hearing capacity, is that I can easily replace these $29 USD speakers without much regret if need be and without any real major effort. Again, thanks for the comments and advice.
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 3, 2014 4:56:52 GMT
Yes, I think you are right about some sort of protection. It did take me a bit to look up IP65 to know what you continental chaps were talking about, however I think we in the colonies can come up with something quite similar and I plan to do so. It strikes me that the connections and the rear speaker are where we need protection. One reason I did not splurge for the absolute sine qua non in speakers, besides my limited hearing capacity, is that I can easily replace these $29 USD speakers without much regret if need be and without any real major effort. Again, thanks for the comments and advice. Yes indeed , these speakers have become very cheap , I bet China has something to do with that , I also replaced mine the previous winter and because I made an online mistake while ordering , I have a brand new spare set on the shelve  Regards |
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Post by so40gtb on Apr 26, 2014 3:59:00 GMT
I suffer the frustration of a love of boat and music and therefore having a hard time reaching a compromise, made worse by being a former member of the Audio Engineering Society. All of the low-elevation cockpit placements involve water incursion or acoustic compromises. The placement in the table support pod is very creative, from the flooding protection perspective, but awful from the acoustics/sonics perspective.
All of the ankle-level surfaces offer acoustic/sonic complications, not the least of which is the acoustic loading of the back side of the woofer cone. At the least, this ought to be symmetrical for both port and starboard speakers. This is difficult to achieve, given the space usage on most boats, especially my SO40.
On our former SO34.2, I mounted a pair of Sonance Mariner 5.1 indoor/outdoor 2-way speakers on the stern railing system. I'm contemplating the mounting of a pair of Mariner 6.2 boxes on our bimini support tubes ... or dodger aft verticals, if they won't interfere with running rigging. Hard to visualize with Voyageur on the hard and the canvas stored until launch!
--Karl
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