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Post by boatylicious on Oct 8, 2010 15:43:20 GMT
Hi All- I'm in the market for a boat in the 33-36 foot range. I've narrowed the manufacturer down to either Jeanneau or Hanse. To tell you the truth, I really prefer the Jeanneau, but the Hanse has a self-tacking jib which is really convenient. Has anyone refitted or used a self-tacking jib on a Jeanneau? If so, how was the performance. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
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leecondell
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Country: Australia
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Post by leecondell on Oct 9, 2010 1:59:30 GMT
Attached is a photo of a SO36i (non performance) with a self-tacker that was fitted locally here in Sydney Australia using a Harken track. Owner is delighted with it! Cheers Lee
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Post by MalcolmP on Oct 10, 2010 17:31:38 GMT
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Post by MalcolmP on Oct 10, 2010 17:36:37 GMT
Attached is a photo of a SO36i (non performance) with a self-tacker that was fitted locally here in Sydney Australia using a Harken track. Owner is delighted with it! Cheers Lee Hi Lee Looks good , I might think about that on our 39i Is that a new sail or was it cut down? any idea of how much sail area was lost? Any chance of showing a close up of the track and spacer fittings? if so that would be excellent cheers Malcolm
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Post by ianpowolny on Apr 30, 2013 14:38:15 GMT
Just looking at fitting a system to our 45DS. The sailmaker will fit it if we can get some details on the parts and where they were bought. Help please, Ian
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Post by sitara on May 1, 2013 0:10:09 GMT
While a self-tacking jib would be nice in confined waters where a lot of tacking is needed, I wonder about its value in more open waters. I have a small headsail (about 100%) on my SO36i and it is a dream to tack even single handed. Using the auto tack system on the auto-pilot I can release the headsail and have it pulled in tight on the other tack before it fills. Only needs a couple of turns on the winch for final trim. There is an obvious speed penalty with the small sail in winds under 10-15 knots.
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Post by lateron on May 1, 2013 15:50:26 GMT
Hi .....I had a self tacker on my last boat, a Hunter Ranger 265, and it was indeed brilliant for tacking quickly and most upwind work. However off the wind and downwind it was much less effective as it was too small and when running was almost impossible to goosewing for any length of time as it tended to slat around on the track.. You may need a barber hauler or a pole to keep it pulled out to catch the wind. I used a relatively medium sized chute a lot going downwind but that was quite a lot of work and I now prefer the more standard 110% jib/genoa on my SO 32. As Sitara says it is easy to tack if you go round a bit more slowly and get the tension on quickly little winching is needed, ask my wife!! Having said all that I do sometimes miss the easy tacking when in confined waters, like going up an estuary with moorings, which is when the self tacker really came into its own.
Horses for courses.
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Post by ianpowolny on May 1, 2013 19:36:45 GMT
We sail out of Oban and often north of Tobermory. The last time we came bak we had F5 gusting F6. We had to be fully reefer and 8-1/2 hours later and 39 tacks we arrived at Oban. The fully reefer 140% genoa is just too much so an inner forestay is being fitted and a self tacker would ease our journeys in F5/6/7.
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Post by MalcolmP on May 1, 2013 21:21:38 GMT
We sail out of Oban and often north of Tobermory. The last time we came bak we had F5 gusting F6. We had to be fully reefer and 8-1/2 hours later and 39 tacks we arrived at Oban. The fully reefer 140% genoa is just too much so an inner forestay is being fitted and a self tacker would ease our journeys in F5/6/7. Hi Ian If you are able to give any more info/photos on how the inner forestay is being fitted - particularly regarding the reinforcement of the foredeck on your 45DS I know that would be really appreciated. There is an active discussion on how this should be done on the older SO43DS at: jeanneau.proboards.com/thread/2551/inner-forestay-43dsRegret we will not make it back up to to the West Coast this season but maybe in 2014 if plans work out. Enjoy the rest of your season Malcolm Serica of Woodbridge
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Post by sailbleu on May 2, 2013 4:24:21 GMT
I think Sitara has perfectly narrowed it down. How often will you use it , and what are your sailing intentions ?
Regards
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Post by jdl01 on May 4, 2013 3:49:05 GMT
Our SO 379 has both a self tacker and a conventional 135% genoa. Our sailing area has many long, narrow inlets and passes, so the self tacker gets a good workout. The weakness is that when you crack off from close hauled, you need a barber hauler to close the upper leach and not spill wind.
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addi
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Post by addi on Oct 29, 2013 17:00:59 GMT
I am a clear pro of self-tacking jibs.
I learned to know and love it with my Sun Fast 20.
While my wife sure helps if necessary, she enjoys sailing in the cockpit with a book in her hands. So I don't want her to be my foresail monkey.
My home waters so far is rather confined, we are used to some 30 tacks on the way out (or the way in depending on the winds), quite comfortable with the self-tacking jib.
When we were out on the Baltic Sea or the Mediterranean, I always appreciated the self-tacking Jib, especially in stronger winds.
For lighter winds I’ve got a furling ‘booster’, not exactly a Code 0, nor a gennaker, something in between. It goes up to nearly 45° AWA and down to 125° AWA.
As the booster is furling, it is out and in in 10 to 15 seconds.
For me this set of sails is perfect, close to perfect say:
I have just ordered a Sun Odyssey 379, with hardware options for self-tacking jib and gennaker. I wasn’t so impressed of the optional mylar jib and gennaker, and unfortunately they didn’t want to give me a substantial price reduction if I’d take no sails at all.
So it will come in standard configuration with the 135% genoa, but I am already looking forward to get a good code 0 and gennaker delibered.
I am sure, the 135% Genua will rarely be used!
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