schoolboyheart
New Member
Posts: 6
Jeanneau Model: SO 410
Yacht Name: Retriever
Home Port: Eagle Harbor
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Post by schoolboyheart on Jan 29, 2022 3:04:12 GMT
We just finalized the paper work on our 410 here in Seattle. Hard to believe after so many years of oldies but goodies I’m finally buying a new boat! I look forward to learning from you all and helping once I get to know my new girl. I come to you all with a history owing Ericson’s (both a 27 and a 32) which have an incredible owners group and are wonderful boats. My new Jeanneau will be a different animal altogether but I can’t wait and more importantly my whole family is excited for once!
if you have any advice for the commissioning or areas to pay attention to through the process I’m open to all lessons learned by others!
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Post by Zanshin on Jan 29, 2022 8:53:06 GMT
Welcome to the forum and to your new 410! Getting a new boat is great - every ding, dent, and scratch is your own and cannot be blamed on a previous owner. But breaking in your own 410 so that it fits your needs perfectly is a fun experience. And your neck of the woods is, from what I've heard, a wonderful area to sail in.
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 29, 2022 9:46:48 GMT
Congratulations too, hope you find this forum at least as good as your previous ones.
In regard commissioning, worth taking multiple photos of any item you have questions or concerns about. Dealers will often say that is normal, don't worry etc, but if you have a photo taken as delivered it helps if problems emerge. If you can hold back even a minor amount before your trial sail and engine test that would be good.
Finally make sure they antifoul under the keel base. On ours they forgot that and after one year we had over a foot of octopuses garden to drag around.
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schoolboyheart
New Member
Posts: 6
Jeanneau Model: SO 410
Yacht Name: Retriever
Home Port: Eagle Harbor
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Post by schoolboyheart on Jan 29, 2022 10:31:30 GMT
Thanks for the welcome and appreciate the tips! Funny you mention that Zanshin, the one thing I’m looking forward to is only having myself to blame for anything not done to snuff, I guess I still get to blame Jeanneau for 3 years though right?!
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Post by Charlie-Bravo on Jan 29, 2022 16:12:13 GMT
Congratulations, Different animal to the Ericsons indeed and lots to experience, I ended up with a Jeanneau after some history with Moodies , not a new Jeanneau ( still a pipe dream) , but a huge leap forward in ease of use. completely different to sail, so much easier to maintain ( although you will still hear grumbles on the forum), and marinas with tight berths no longer induce anxiety .. well not as much as they used to .... although I guess with a new huge scratch free yacht you will be excused the occasional panic attack. Invest in a few extra fenders perhaps.
Enjoy her CB
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Post by bereboot on Jan 29, 2022 19:01:32 GMT
Welcome, have fun and just enjoy your new boat.
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schoolboyheart
New Member
Posts: 6
Jeanneau Model: SO 410
Yacht Name: Retriever
Home Port: Eagle Harbor
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Post by schoolboyheart on Jan 29, 2022 20:34:22 GMT
Thanks guys, I’m sure the first docking exercise will be a bit of an exercise for the old sphincter but hopefully it’s just like all the other boats I bought…seems big until you’ve had her for a few weeks!
more fenders seems like a good idea!
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Post by zaphod on Jan 30, 2022 2:36:21 GMT
Congratulations on the new boat! You are in for a real treat going from those old boats into a modern one. We went from a '79 30 footer to our 39i, and 3 years later we are still in the honeymoon phase with our Jeanneau!
You will find when it comes to docking it is not just the extra length that takes getting used to but the enormous beam of these modern boats, but don't worry, you will adapt quickly!
I can't offer any experience on commissioning since I have never purchased brand new, but from everything I have heard, you can expect issues, so take the time to explore every nook and cranny of your boat and document everything you find.
You are in some prime cruising waters over here on the Wet Coast! Perhaps our paths will cross at some point!
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Post by zaphod on Jan 30, 2022 2:38:56 GMT
Thanks guys, I’m sure the first docking exercise will be a bit of an exercise for the old sphincter but hopefully it’s just like all the other boats I bought…seems big until you’ve had her for a few weeks! more fenders seems like a good idea! Some say you can't have enough fenders...
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Post by rene460 on Feb 1, 2022 6:37:32 GMT
Congratulations on the new boat.
We also bought ours new and it is an exciting time. I found it worthwhile to make a list of every system on the boat, then, one by one, as they become available, test that each system operates as expected, and tick it off.
Obvious things, like every light switch, so including nav lights, motoring light, anchor lights, etc.
Pump the holding tank full with water and make sure there are no leaks/loose hose connections. Much better to find them before you use it in earnest.
Go for a sail and not only haul up main and jib, but try out the reefing system for each reef, also the outhaul if provided. (Ours was run incorrectly, and we could not pull in the second reef.)
Take the time to anchor, so you check the windlass operation.
Motor has a whole new raft of things to check and learn.
And so on, over the whole boat. Radio, fridge, stove, battery chargers, just everything.
You can expect the new boat to be basically sound and will last a long time if you look after it. But assembly mistakes happen, it’s just better to find them before you sign off on delivery. Check off your list of options and that everything ordered was supplied.
Remember that some things will need a recheck after a settling in period, particularly the rig which will become loose as the strands settle in under load. Also the engine may need an early service after a run in period. Make sure that you understand with the dealer where these will be done and whether or not the cost is included. Don’t be afraid to ask about anything you are not sure about. I had never owned or operated a Diesel engine before this boat, and the mechanic who did the initial commissioning was very helpful in making sure I knew how to do all the basic owner responsibilities. Ask him about alignment checks and if a recheck is needed after the boat settles in and rig is tensioned.
It might be all seem a bit pedantic, but the basic principle works for large machines in industry as well. You can always learn so much while the agent shows you the boat during the handover process.
Make a plan for the ongoing regular maintenance of the boat and engine. It will last so much longer, be more reliable and give lasting pleasure if you look after it.
Mostly, do enjoy the whole process as an exciting and vital part of getting to know your new boat.
rene460
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Post by shenandoah on Feb 1, 2022 16:20:02 GMT
Congratulations! We just went through this process a year and a half ago. Hopefully you have a much better dealer than we did, but there were several things wrong with our boat most importantly they put the wrong keel on it. Little detail. I tell you this to let you know that Jeanneau itself was wonderful (as was this forum) and got everything fixed. So don't panic, there isn't much that can't be fixed if they mess it up the first time.
Having said that, communication is key and was frankly my mistake. Make sure you and your dealer are on the same page with every detail of the specification. This is a huge life event for you, it is business as usual for them and it is easy for them to make mistakes, especially if you specified anything that is out of the norm for them.
In terms of docking, yes the extra length and beam will take some getting used to, but the biggest adjustment is no more prop wash. If you didn't already I would highly recommend specifying the bow thruster. The twin rudders are fantastic everywhere except in a marina.
The best advice I received was to live with the boat for a bit before adding extras. I knew I wanted solar panels but I waited and I'm very glad I did. I plan on adding them this Fall and it will be a much different instillation than I would have told you before using the boat for almost two years. We use more electricity on this boat, because it is bigger and has more luxuries than our previous experience.
Good luck with the commissioning and congratulations again!
Warm regards, Chuck
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schoolboyheart
New Member
Posts: 6
Jeanneau Model: SO 410
Yacht Name: Retriever
Home Port: Eagle Harbor
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Post by schoolboyheart on Feb 3, 2022 4:41:28 GMT
Thanks everyone for the feedback and that may well be me with all the fenders come May! Hope no one gets a picture!
luckily most systems on the boat I’ve either had before and installed myself or spent time maintaining but it’s a big boat so a lot to go through all at once. Luckily the dealer is a good guy and reputable as well as a member of our yacht club which helps. Even if he wasn’t I trust him.
waiting is now the hardest part of the deal!
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