795 extras opinion

[luujo]


I am looking at buying new Merry Fisher 795.
Original plan was to buy MF695 but after been on 795 I found that extra space is more suited to me (197cm tall), especially more space for legs behind the steering wheel and extra width. But this brings extra costs…..

So I am thinking what extras to order and what can be easily added later(over next two years).

Also considering that maybe some extras are too expensive if getting it from factory, so I can buy them separately and install by myself/service guys.



Simrad Cruise 9 – 1000 Eur. Ok price, take from factory

Audio pack - 700 Eur. Can be found for 450-500eur. How easy to install? Probably take from factory

Electrical windlass - 1500 Eur. Factory?

Bow ladder with wooden platform - 600 Eur. Didn’t see how this look. Seen only without ladders

Swimming platforms with oak - 1300 Eur. Factory

Bow Thruster - 2300 Eur. Factory

220V shore + battery charger - 1000 Eur. Factory?

Galley - 1200 Eur. Factory

Marine toilet + tank - 1500 Eur. Factory

Air heating system – 3600 Eur. I don’t need it for now and it is too expensive. I can install Webasto heating later

U-shape cockpit - 1300 Eur. Factory

Cockpit sun awning - 1200 Eur. Factory or can be found much cheaper aftermarket?

Interior curtains - 600 Eur. Factory

Fridge - 1200 Eur. Can it be easy installed later? Price for similiar fridge?

Water heater - 1000 Eur. Don’t think i need this but can be installed later if needed

Electrical trim tabs - 1500 Eur. Need this?
Or
Zipwake trim tabs - 2200 Eur. Need this?

Forward sun mattress - 500 Eur. Will see.

And....

Motor Suzuki 200 drive by wire (4cl) vs 225 mechanical V6? Similar price, what you suggest for fuel consumption at cruising speed and more reliable?

[nc]

You need trim tab and the technologic choice is Zipwake, I have tried it once without knowing to fine tune it and to turn it ON/OFF on a NC895WE, but the ride was quieter and smooth without doing any trim adjustments as fuel consumption. I tried a NC895 without it after, and I saw the difference on the ride and on the fuel consumption.

[odetta]

Nov 9, 2020 2:24:37 GMT luujo said:


I am looking at buying new Merry Fisher 795.
Original plan was to buy MF695 but after been on 795 I found that extra space is more suited to me (197cm tall), especially more space for legs behind the steering wheel and extra width. But this brings extra costs…..

So I am thinking what extras to order and what can be easily added later(over next two years).

Also considering that maybe some extras are too expensive if getting it from factory, so I can buy them separately and install by myself/service guys.



Simrad Cruise 9 – 1000 Eur. Ok price, take from factory

Audio pack - 700 Eur. Can be found for 450-500eur. How easy to install? Probably take from factory

Electrical windlass - 1500 Eur. Factory?

Bow ladder with wooden platform - 600 Eur. Didn’t see how this look. Seen only without ladders

Swimming platforms with oak - 1300 Eur. Factory

Bow Thruster - 2300 Eur. Factory

220V shore + battery charger - 1000 Eur. Factory?

Galley - 1200 Eur. Factory

Marine toilet + tank - 1500 Eur. Factory

Air heating system – 3600 Eur. I don’t need it for now and it is too expensive. I can install Webasto heating later

U-shape cockpit - 1300 Eur. Factory

Cockpit sun awning - 1200 Eur. Factory or can be found much cheaper aftermarket?

Interior curtains - 600 Eur. Factory

Fridge - 1200 Eur. Can it be easy installed later? Price for similiar fridge?

Water heater - 1000 Eur. Don’t think i need this but can be installed later if needed

Electrical trim tabs - 1500 Eur. Need this?
Or
Zipwake trim tabs - 2200 Eur. Need this?

Forward sun mattress - 500 Eur. Will see.

And....

Motor Suzuki 200 drive by wire (4cl) vs 225 mechanical V6? Similar price, what you suggest for fuel consumption at cruising speed and more reliable?

[odetta]

Simrad Cruise 9 – 1000 Eur. Ok price, take from factory - Agree

Audio pack - 700 Eur. Can be found for 450-500eur. How easy to install? Probably take from factory - Consider its value to you; we are perfectly happy with streaming to good portable speakers from our phone

Electrical windlass - 1500 Eur. Factory? Probably of little value in boat of this size; little effort needed to raise 13# Danforth with 15 ft of chain (and no windlass jams)

Bow ladder with wooden platform - 600 Eur. Didn’t see how this look. Seen only without ladders - I doubt you would use it much; better to get off from stern (and probably not available with windlass)

Swimming platforms with oak - 1300 Eur. Factory - Agree

Bow Thruster - 2300 Eur. Factory Agree, very helpful especially maneuvering into slip with wind.

220V shore + battery charger - 1000 Eur. Factory? Get factory installed, lots of wiring to route

Galley - 1200 Eur. Factory - Think about how much you would use this versus portable butane burner; I didn't get it and value the extra sink and counter space

Marine toilet + tank - 1500 Eur. Factory - Agree

Air heating system – 3600 Eur. I don’t need it for now and it is too expensive. I can install Webasto heating later - Agree 

U-shape cockpit - 1300 Eur. Factory - Agree

Cockpit sun awning - 1200 Eur. Factory or can be found much cheaper aftermarket? - I would go with Factory as I am very satisfied with fit and finish, both open and closed.

Interior curtains - 600 Eur. Factory - Agree (definitely needed for sun and summer heat control)

Fridge - 1200 Eur. Can it be easy installed later? Price for similiar fridge? - We hardly used a fridge for weekends on prior boat; just kept things in the cooler (one of the "ultra" type) that we transported from home

Water heater - 1000 Eur. Don’t think i need this but can be installed later if needed - Agree

Electrical trim tabs - 1500 Eur. Need this? 
Or
Zipwake trim tabs - 2200 Eur. Need this? We are pleased with the ride and efficiency without these, but could be added later

Forward sun mattress - 500 Eur. Will see. I doubt you would be pleased with the angle that you would lay on; you'll be happier to lay in the cockpit if you get the U-shape option and cushions

I have a 200 hp Yamaha with electronics and am happy with that vs mechanical; I am not familiar with the Suzukis.

[timbray]

Just want to say that I agree with basically every word of Odetta's answers. I've had a 795 for about 18 months now. Except maybe the anchor. If you're going to be doing serious cruising you're going to want more than 15ft of chain, and it gets heavy.  Having said that, the d**n windlass does jam very easily.

I wonder what the factory audio pack is. I bought my 2017 boat in 2019 and the audio system was miserable - two small Fusion speakers with lousy bass, sounded like a telephone. I spent a lot of money upgrading to a Fusion/JL-Audio 4+1 setup, but then I'm an audio fanatic. 

[luujo]

Thanks for the answers.

Electrical windlass - will have to see about that. Read about jamming problems. Maybe on Series2 is different design?

Bow ladder with wooden platform - ladder I don’t need but i would like to have bow platform. Maybe there is option without ladders. I saw few MF’s with bow platform and i like it.

Luxury galley - what exactly do you get with this option? Or better, what do you get without this option?

[odetta]

I should have mentioned that my location is on the Chesapeake, which is quite shallow and with lots of protected anchorages as well as overnight slips available. I most often anchor in 10-15 ft of water on a mud bottom, so not much chain is needed and lightweight Danforth is actually better than plow type anchors. I would certainly go with local advice and conditions, as well as intended use of boat (e.g., many here will anchor in the day and take a slip at night to take advantage of shore power and convenience.

I didn't get the factory propane burner, but got an extra sink with cover (all white countertop). No propane locker or slick-looking black counter top with built in single burner.

[luujo]

odetta - thanx. Will se for portable butane burner solution and then decide.

Anyone has some recommendations to go for 200hp 4 cylinder, drive-by-wire or 225 6 cylinder, mechanical command?

[ihsan]

     Since I have 200 Evinrude G2, 2,7 liter salt water edition with MF795,  I cant help you but I would like to point out to the importance of  propellor choice which effects the performance of any engine and boat. If you are going to have a heavier boat with gear you should take a serious look at this matter too. Of course this can be done any time but earlier better. 

[luujo]

At the end I decided to go for max power, 250hp.
Choice is Suzuki 250APX V6 or Mercury Verado V8 AMS DTS.
Suzuki is little bit cheaper.
Performance, cruising speed and cruising speed consumption would be similar with both engines?

[nc]

Zuke will compare to Yammy, if Zuke offers twin props on the 250hp like a DF250A instead of DF250AP could have change something

[luujo]

I can only find Suzuki DF350A with dual props. DF250 is only available in single propeller.
You think it can’t match Mercury V8?

[nc]

Zuke are not offer in east Canadian market, never try them.
I tried on the same model 895S, twin 250 Yammy and twin Verado_250hp.
IMHO, Verado are better than Yammy for at least those reasons
1. V8 is quiter and effortless all the way to WOT, better fuel efficiency,
2. Steering and controls are better, Mobile vesselview can be added
3. Engine tilt out the water
4. Large choice of props model to optimize the engine to what you want to do.

[luujo]

Looks like new Verado has the edge over Suzuki.
In my case plus for Suzuki is good dealer, since i have Suzuki DF40 on my current boat and am happy with it.
But this Verado looks tempting. Dealer should also be ok but I don’t have any experience with them so i am not sure.
Is new Verado that much better than Suzuki to give it a try?

[sorci]

You certainly can't go wrong with Mercury engines....huge racing success, been in business over 80 years, and they even have their own lake for endurance testing of their engines. A search on YouTube will bring up all kinds of Mercury Verado and Suzuki info too. 

[nc]

The Merc's V6,_225hp is used on 895 marlin by NauticalPartners and on some Jeanneau/Beneteau boats among the 7m.
That engine could be a very good choice.

[luujo]

Suzuki 250 will be at the end.
Little bit cheaper because of the rigging is more expensive for Mercury, and Suzuki service is located more closely to my boat.

[Mikeh]

Consider adding a dedicated battery for the thruster. I have a separate 75 Ah battery in the thruster compartment and I'm very happy that I do.

[luujo]

Feb 9, 2021 13:13:50 GMT Mikeh said:

Consider adding a dedicated battery for the thruster. I have a separate 75 Ah battery in the thruster compartment and I'm very happy that I do.

Looks like dealer will provide only two batteries; one starting for motor ( thruster and windlass will be connected on this one i think) and one service for fridge, lights, music,....

I noticed that some are getting extra thruster battery in bow but not sure if this is really needed since windlass and thruster will be only used for short time and only when motor(alternator) is running.

[valentin]

Hello to everyone. I also ordered a new mf 795 s2 and i am considering to put on Mercury v6 225 hp or Mercury Verado v8 250 hp. V6 is cheaper for almost 4000€ and also lighter. Can you give any opinion which would be better to put on (efficiency, fuel consumption).

[Mikeh]

luujo said:

I noticed that some are getting extra thruster battery in bow but not sure if this is really needed since windlass and thruster will be only used for short time and only when motor(alternator) is running.

I know that not all have separate batteries for bow thruster, and they are perfectly happy with that. That said, I think all major thruster manufacturers recommend a dedicated battery, for a good reason. Thruster is a major power draw. A 2 kW thruster can easily draw 200 amps. If using batteries at the back wiring has to be huge. Even with proper wiring thrusters can cause significant voltage drop to batteries and some electronics may trip off because of it. I've seen it happen. Altenator may not be able to keep up when idling.

[ihsan]

Feb 14, 2021 12:06:24 GMT valentin said:

Hello to everyone. I also ordered a new mf 795 s2 and i am considering to put on Mercury v6 225 hp or Mercury Verado v8 250 hp. V6 is cheaper for almost 4000€ and also lighter. Can you give any opinion which would be better to put on (efficiency, fuel consumption).

                MF 795 s2 is rated as 250 maximum hp compared to previous 200 hp.  Probably 225 V6 may not be satisfying, this I say from what I heard from 225 using friends.  I would go for V8 250 if possible. Mostly when you need all the  power it will be not all the time and a person does not think of fuel consumption at such times.  This is only general opinion and Mercury users should be able to give more details. 

[burak]

Mar 8, 2021 11:29:54 GMT ihsan said:

Feb 14, 2021 12:06:24 GMT valentin said:

Hello to everyone. I also ordered a new mf 795 s2 and i am considering to put on Mercury v6 225 hp or Mercury Verado v8 250 hp. V6 is cheaper for almost 4000€ and also lighter. Can you give any opinion which would be better to put on (efficiency, fuel consumption).

                MF 795 s2 is rated as 250 maximum hp compared to previous 200 hp.  Probably 225 V6 may not be satisfying, this I say from what I heard from 225 using friends.  I would go for V8 250 if possible. Mostly when you need all the  power it will be not all the time and a person does not think of fuel consumption at such times.  This is only general opinion and Mercury users should be able to give more details.