Lost steering in 795 due to hydraulic hose abrasion

[timbray]

I've attached a couple of pictures that show what happened.  Obviously the abrasion must have happened due to some combination of engine lift up/down and steer right/left. When it's repaired, I'll have a close look and figure out if maybe I need a tie-back for the hydraulic lines.  I hear that the hydraulic hoses are have Euro-gauge threading so the dealer has to order from Jeanneau, so could be a while before my boat can head out to sea again.

It happened fortunately only a couple of km out of port.  We debated calling for a tow but ended up putt-putting back in with me kneeling on the swim platform hauling the engine back and forth by hand while my 21-year-old son managed the clutch/throttle and bow thruster.  Kind of hilarious actually but nothing I want to do again any time soon.

After we get it fixed I'll have to figure out how to clean the hydraulic fluid out of that aft bay where the motor lives, it's super greasy. Blecch.

[Capt’n Ron]

Timbray, sorry to hear. It’s happened to a number of us as I’m sure you have seen in the other loss of steering thread.  Yours looks close to what mine did and is a result of poor installation, which should be covered by warranty (mine was). It is a special order hose although you may find the dealer might have them on hand.  I know another owner who had new ones custom made and upgraded the lines at the same time, so that could be an option as well. 

it’s a good reminder for others to check your hoses for wear. It could happen at a very unfortunate time!

Good luck!

Cheers,
Ron

[ayang00]

Same happened to me a few months back, luckily I had just left the marina and limped back to the emergency dock.

Yours looks to have failed at around the same spot as mine, which I suspect was due to being pinched when the motor was trimmed up for storage.

Luckily the hose routes to a fitting that you can access via the cockpit hatch (so you don’t have to trace the hose all the way back to the helm).  In my case, I removed the damaged hose and brought it to a local hydraulic shop that worked on Manuli branded hoses, and as the hose is actually quite long (you’ll find a lot of it is coiled inside the transom area), they were able to cut off the punctured section and place a new fitting on.  

You are right that it is a less used fitting size, so if they don’t stock it, you will have to get it ordered, however this would probably be a faster/less expensive method vs. buying a whole new hose.

If you go this route, make sure the shop slides the plastic flex fitting (that attaches to the transom) over the hose before they attach the fitting.

Cost me about $20 and 3 hours of my time to replace. I probably spent more time bleeding the system than actually wrenching. 

Also for the fluid, you can use Seastar Hydraulic Steering fluid (according to the local Jeanneau dealer).

[captaintheo]

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[charlies]

Thanks for the info.  I'm getting a Weekender 795 and I now know to check this for potential issue at Sea Trial.  If so, then I can work with the dealer using these pictures for a guard of some kind.   I'll add it to my notes of things to check.

[timbray]

Aug 20, 2020 23:03:30 GMT ayang00 said:

Cost me about $20 and 3 hours of my time to replace. I probably spent more time bleeding the system than actually wrenching. 

Also for the fluid, you can use Seastar Hydraulic Steering fluid (according to the local Jeanneau dealer).

Just to follow up a bit, I've attached a picture of the upgraded hoses.  Note the anti-chafing spiral wrap, and the cable ties to keep everything in place.

I didn't do it myself, hired the local boat service folk. Cost me a lot more than $20. As ayang00 says, the hose access turns out to be nice and straightforward, so they had little trouble getting the old hose out, and got a replacement fabricated by a local shop the next afternoon.  I'm in awe of ayang00's accomplishments, getting everything put back together and properly wrapped and bleeding the steering fluid require more skill than I have. 

[beaufortnc795]

We just had the same failure, and fortunately just outside the marina.

The local Jeanneau dealer wasn't sure if it's a warranty issue (they're a new dealer).

I'm guessing this would be a Jeanneau warranty vs. a Yamaha warranty?

Does Jeanneau install the steering at the factory?

I'm not happy that the dealer isn't up to speed on this.