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Post by zaphod on Aug 10, 2020 1:59:53 GMT
On our recent cruise we did more anchoring than we have done in the past, and I anticipate doing a lot more in the future. Today we pulled all of our chain and rode out onto the dock and hosed it off, as well as climbing down inside the anchor locker and cleaning it out. Moving forward I would like to reduce the amount of grime that ends up in our anchor locker in the first place.
We had anchored in a couple of places that had a lot of really sticky mud. We don't have a built in washdown system so I just used a bucket of seawater to splash away the muck as the anchored came up. It worked ok, but it makes it a bit slow going if you have to refill the bucket a few times.
I am not sure I want to install another through-hull for a built in system, so I am contemplating other options. I am envisioning a small submersible 12v pump that I just drop over the side with a hose and nozzle so I can wash the chain as it comes up. Tying into the windlass power supply would be easy enough, so it should be a simple install. Has anybody done something like this? If so, how did it work out?
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Post by NZL50505 on Aug 10, 2020 9:12:05 GMT
Couple of Qs:
1. What boat and year?
2. Are you 100% sure you don’t have an existing through hull ready to go for this?
3. Do you have a salt water tap in the galley? If so, check where it comes from because T-ing off that could be your answer?
On our 42DS we have a through hull that supplies deck wash outlet mounted in anchor locker that nobody remembers installing - hence suspicion it was factory install.
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ronparker
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Jeanneau Model: 2002 SO40
Yacht Name: Jessabbe
Home Port: Gippsland Lakes, Victoria
Country: Australia
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Post by ronparker on Aug 10, 2020 12:59:38 GMT
Jessabbe has a deck wash outlet in the anchor well supplied by seawater via forward head. The deck wash pump is contained under front berth. An added feature includes a valve arrangement to swap water supply from saltwater to freshwater supplied from forward bathroom. Nice detail to keep the anchor locker clean and extend the life of anchor chain.
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Post by zaphod on Aug 10, 2020 18:12:52 GMT
It is a 2011 39i, and there is definitely no through-hull in the anchor locker. I honestly haven't looked anywhere else for one, but I don't recall seeing anything forward. We don't have a forward head, so no reason to have anything up there.
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Post by NZL50505 on Aug 10, 2020 20:48:10 GMT
Have a dig around the bilgess under the saloon / galley / companionway areas and see if you find a lurking inlet. Do you have saltwater tap supply to the galley?
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Post by jdl01 on Aug 13, 2020 20:18:53 GMT
I don't believe a small 12v submersible pump is going to give you the water pressure you are going to need to blow crud out of you chain links.
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Post by zzmeyer on Aug 17, 2020 16:55:28 GMT
I agree with jdl01. You need water pressure. On my 42ds I just teed into the head salt water intake. A good 3gpm pump is just over $100. I would recommend you get the same model, if possible as other pumps on board so you can sway.
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Post by sleighride on Aug 29, 2020 15:01:27 GMT
I tried your idea using an adequate pump mounted on a portable 2” by 6” by 14” plank,. However, when the chain started up and the boat moved forward, the input hose would not stay in the water and planed on the surface, especially after the anchor reached the roller when I needed to get the mud off the anchor itself. In addition, the portable pump on the plank and the two hoses were difficult to store back in the cockpit locker where I keep my power cord and fenders and mooring lines. I went back to the bucket which stores in the anchor locker and I have one less piece of equipment to maintain.😎
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Post by Evening Star on Aug 29, 2020 23:09:23 GMT
In our 479, we took sea water from the forward head sea water through hull with a T fitting and ran a water hose forward, through the forward cabin and into the sail locker. From there, we installed a water wash pump with the discharge running forward in the anchor locker, across to the STBD side along the forward sail locker bulkhead and through to he anchor locker. There is a water valve there and the sprayer on a coil hose. In the anchor locker here is a push/pull on off switch for the pump. It is only on when we are cleaning the chain while bringing up the anchor. Works great and a pretty simple instal. In the Chesapeake Bay we must use it every time we anchor.
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Post by johnt on Apr 14, 2021 9:46:44 GMT
 Hi All, Ive just purchased a 2008 Sun Odyssey 50DS, which has a fitting in the anchor locker for a deck wash hose to attach to, but there is no hose onboard and i'm struggling to find one that will fit the attachment, there is CDC or CPC written on top of the plastic fitting (photo attached). Does anyone know what the brand fitting is, or which hose would fit it? If i can find a hose that fits, i suppose the next option is to replace the fitting. Many Thanks, John |
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Post by so32foot on Apr 14, 2021 14:23:12 GMT
I have a submersible pump in the anchor locker with hose and a watertight switch in the electricity cable on my SO32, since 2012. Just put it overboard and switch the pump on and I can clean the anchor chain, anchor and locker. There is not much pressuere on the outlet, but I've choosen an overdimensioned pump, so the volume of water compensates the lack of pressure and it works fine and it was cheap.
I use it very frequently as I mainly sail in the Swedish east coast archipelago where I anchor almost every night when I stay there permanently on board from early June to end of August.
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Post by sailfirefighter on Apr 16, 2021 19:47:51 GMT
View AttachmentHi All, Ive just purchased a 2008 Sun Odyssey 50DS, which has a fitting in the anchor locker for a deck wash hose to attach to, but there is no hose onboard and i'm struggling to find one that will fit the attachment, there is CDC or CPC written on top of the plastic fitting (photo attached). Does anyone know what the brand fitting is, or which hose would fit it? If i can find a hose that fits, i suppose the next option is to replace the fitting. Many Thanks, John That looks to me to be a CPC coupler. CPC is the name of the company, cpcworldwide.com. It looks like it could be one of their HFC 35 or HFC 37. You should be able to find the correct male fitting on their website. |
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Post by johnt on Apr 17, 2021 12:45:24 GMT
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Post by ForGrinsToo on Apr 17, 2021 21:23:29 GMT
That looks to me to be a CPC coupler. CPC is the name of the company, cpcworldwide.com. It looks like it could be one of their HFC 35 or HFC 37. You should be able to find the correct male fitting on their website. Yes, Colder Products(Company: CPC) - they make a wide variety of quick disconnects. I'm planning to install a 12VDC outlet near the 36i helm (new wiring) and a 12VDC outlet in the anchor locker pulling power from the windlass wiring loom. I bought a Shurflo kit and plan to put it in a plastic tackle box so I can use it forward or aft, as needed. I will weight the intake hose to keep it submerged as we move away from the anchorage, as the anchor comes up. We typically move very slowly out of an anchorage. On the North America Great Lakes, the early-summer bugs can be unreal. I want to be able to hose them away from the cockpit. Worth noting that 90% of our time aboard involves nights at anchor. Geoff |
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Post by NZL50505 on Apr 19, 2021 3:07:28 GMT
View AttachmentHi All, Ive just purchased a 2008 Sun Odyssey 50DS, which has a fitting in the anchor locker for a deck wash hose to attach to, but there is no hose onboard and i'm struggling to find one that will fit the attachment, there is CDC or CPC written on top of the plastic fitting (photo attached). Does anyone know what the brand fitting is, or which hose would fit it? If i can find a hose that fits, i suppose the next option is to replace the fitting. Many Thanks, John That’s interesting. We have a 2012 50DS “Black Label” (as in top-spec) but I haven’t noticed a deck wash in our anchor locker! Maybe I should take another look... Do you know how it’s pressurised ie where is the pump that supplies it and the on/off switch? |
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Post by jaminb on Apr 21, 2021 19:39:11 GMT
Would this do the job? I have one but have never thought about it for this application?
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Post by dbostrom on Apr 21, 2021 20:47:55 GMT
Would this do the job? I have one but have never thought about it for this application?
That looks pretty darned handy. Could be fed w/a hose from fresh water supply, and being a pressure washer won't sip very much. Nice. |
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Post by rxc on May 1, 2021 15:52:05 GMT
I would be very wary about using that pressure washer as a washdown pump, because it expects to see clean, potable water, and if you suck on seawater you are bound to get a bunch of stuff in the water that it will not like. They tend to have pumps with very close tolerances, in order to get the high pressure.
Better to bite the bullet and buy a washdown pump designed for SW use, with a strainer. When I changed the aft head in our boat to freshwater flushing, I used the thruhull to supply a dedicated washdown pump (Shurflo). It feeds a flush deck connection up on the bow made by NewFound metals. Nicely done for about $80, and not a toe stubber. You can run a feed line using ordinary PEX tubing.
Just remember to shut off the pump when not in use (and shut the thruhull, if easyily accessable). Also, do not use one of those helical hoses. The pressure drop thru them is enormous, and if it is long enough, you won't much flow to blast the anchor.
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Post by Cpt Twisty on Jun 24, 2021 18:22:14 GMT
In our 479, we took sea water from the forward head sea water through hull with a T fitting and ran a water hose forward, through the forward cabin and into the sail locker. From there, we installed a water wash pump with the discharge running forward in the anchor locker, across to the STBD side along the forward sail locker bulkhead and through to he anchor locker. There is a water valve there and the sprayer on a coil hose. In the anchor locker here is a push/pull on off switch for the pump. It is only on when we are cleaning the chain while bringing up the anchor. Works great and a pretty simple instal. In the Chesapeake Bay we must use it every time we anchor. Thanks for the idea, Evening Star - this sounds like a fantastic approach. We purchased a 2016 Jeanneau SO 479 in Annapolis a few months ago - no w/d pump was installed, and had been pondering what to do to deal with all the mud. Luckily, the heads have been converted to freshwater, and I can still access the thru-hull in the forward head. I'd be curious which pump you selected for this (and if you're happy with it?) |
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Post by moonshadow on Jun 24, 2021 20:16:44 GMT
West marine has a wash down pump/hose kit that they sell for less than they sell just the same pump alone for.
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Post by chuckr on Jun 28, 2021 18:17:01 GMT
SoulMates has had one since she was launched in 2003. We have a t off the head saltwater thru hull with a screen to keep stuff out of the pump. The pump is located under the forward berth with the water line entering the anchor locker and a hose attached with a nozzle for pressure. For electrical it is attached to the shower pump breaker.
I have anchored in some really nasty mud and crud and it works great. Simple to operate and very effective.
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Post by j24sailor on Jul 20, 2021 4:52:43 GMT
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Post by zaphod on Jul 20, 2021 17:33:14 GMT
That looks interesting despite the bizarre description! (Car wash pump? Huh?) I could see having that ties into the windlass power and just dropping the intake hose in the water when needed. (We don't have a forward head, and I would rather not install another through hull.) Does it prime itself easily? Does it have enough pressure and flow to rinse off heavy mud? |
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Post by j24sailor on Jul 20, 2021 22:30:06 GMT
I am behind on my magazine reading but picked up the April 2021 Cruising World magazine and there is an article about building your own washdown with a regular garden hose going over the side. I know the one we bought was weighted and it would be easy to put a small weight on the end of the hose and even a bit of a strainer.
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Post by Evening Star on Sept 4, 2021 17:08:37 GMT
In our 479, we took sea water from the forward head sea water through hull with a T fitting and ran a water hose forward, through the forward cabin and into the sail locker. From there, we installed a water wash pump with the discharge running forward in the anchor locker, across to the STBD side along the forward sail locker bulkhead and through to he anchor locker. There is a water valve there and the sprayer on a coil hose. In the anchor locker here is a push/pull on off switch for the pump. It is only on when we are cleaning the chain while bringing up the anchor. Works great and a pretty simple instal. In the Chesapeake Bay we must use it every time we anchor. Thanks for the idea, Evening Star - this sounds like a fantastic approach. We purchased a 2016 Jeanneau SO 479 in Annapolis a few months ago - no w/d pump was installed, and had been pondering what to do to deal with all the mud. Luckily, the heads have been converted to freshwater, and I can still access the thru-hull in the forward head. I'd be curious which pump you selected for this (and if you're happy with it?) |
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