NC 11 Anchor, Chain, Rode advice please...

[ctjeanneau]

Just bought a used 2015 Jeanneau NC 11, and the former owners had a very small anchor and 25 feet of chain to 75 ft of nylon rode. I think the chain is 5/16. As a former sailor , I am not happy with this arrangement but am torn between overweighting the bow and affecting performance vs an effective and strong anchor system. The Mantus web site recommends a 45 lb anchor for a 35-39 ft boat. Seems a bit much, but the Ultra web site recommends the same. Any thoughts on anchor size, chain and nylon rode length? 
We cruise in eastern CT/Block Island / Newport area. Thanks.

[sjgoodwin]

Hi. My view is you want all chain. I think I have maybe 80’ but never measured. Anchor is 36 lbs and it’s an Ultra model. I’m not sure how to attach a pic. This anchor is supposed to be one of the best. Use a bridle at anchor overnight and don’t leave weight on windlass.

My email is [e-mail] if you want to email me and I can send a pic. I’m also part of an email group of a bunch of NC11 owners in NA and Europe if you want to join.

[ctjeanneau]

Thank you. I'll send you an email.

[borys]

Chain is fine.  Add bigger anchor...several sources recommend a bigger one.  Add more line if you need longer anchor line.  Pretty simple.  I suspect you are reluctant to spend $$$ for new anchor and you want someone to assure you what you have is acceptable...fact is, many independent sources recommend bigger anchor.  Choice is yours...keep what you have, sell anchor on Kijiji and buy a new one. 

[lynnardm]

There are lots of opinions and approaches to anchors and rodes. On my 895 I settled on keeping the 14 kg anchor, 30 ft of chain, and 300 ft of 8 plait line. Although these are smaller boats there is good reference info in this chain “795 maximum chain and rode length “

Capt’n Lynn

[ian222]

We have the rocna anchor 100’ of chain and 200’ of rode for a Total of 300’. This set up works very well here on the west coast. We also get over 15’ of tide and have some fairly deep anchorages

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Jul 27, 2020 15:32:22 GMT ian222 said:

We have the rocna anchor 100’ of chain and 200’ of rode for a Total of 300’. This set up works very well here on the west coast. We also get over 15’ of tide and have some fairly deep anchorages

Rocna for me too: just throw it overboard, reverse, and the boat holds.

[borys]

Jul 27, 2020 15:32:22 GMT ian222 said:

We have the rocna anchor 100’ of chain and 200’ of rode for a Total of 300’. This set up works very well here on the west coast. We also get over 15’ of tide and have some fairly deep anchorages

FYI everything connected to the anchor is "rode"...rode is made up of all chain or chain/rope.

[richardc1]

Thinking of adding some chain to my NC11 and upgrading the anchor. My boat is still put away for the season. Can someone please confirm the size of the chain to suit the NC11 windlass?
Recommendation on chain length to add 'enough' weight to the bow but not 'too much'?
Thanks!

[hegrelma]

All chain rode is great in principal, but it is heavy to wrangle and expensive.  For my 2017 NC 11, I went with Defender's 8-plait and chain combination as a good compromise giving 50ft of chain, 300+ft of rode overall and not breaking the bank or my back too much.  It works great in my Lewmar windlass.  If you also have a Lewmar, be sure to check the gypsy code here: www.lewmar.com/Windlass-Gypsy-Guides to confirm the chain and line sizes for your gypsy.  Both the chain and line on the rode that came with the boat were too small and did not work in the gypsy. I also added a bow cleat between the windlass and the bow roller to tie off.  I have links to the gear I purchased here:  mvorca.net/gear

[richardc1]

Thanks, yes I was hoping to find someone who had access to their NC 11 that could look up the Gypsy code for me. I am 500 miles away from my boat until the start of the season. My boat is a US spec boat in case that makes a difference.

[hegrelma]

My gypsy code is 003 for a V Series Lewmar and the specified 3/8in chain and 5/8 8-plait works perfectly.  I do not know how consistent Jeanneau is with the gear it uses.

[richardc1]

Thanks, that's great. I appreciate your help, Richard

[drbob]

Apr 3, 2021 13:13:13 GMT richardc1 said:

Thinking of adding some chain to my NC11 and upgrading the anchor. My boat is still put away for the season. Can someone please confirm the size of the chain to suit the NC11 windlass?
Recommendation on chain length to add 'enough' weight to the bow but not 'too much'?
Thanks!

[drbob]

My 2017 NC11 came with 90' of 10mm chain and 140' of line with a 16kg Fortress (Danforth style) anchor on a Lewmar gypsy. The bow does not ride too low and there is room for more chain in the chain side of the anchor locker so I'm sure you could have more chain on. 
At least another 50lbs = ~ 30' I think and maybe more.
I've been told multiple times by boating experts that the more chain the better.

I have a bridle attached on either side to the bow cleats with a large snap hook with a chain hook on it as well. I use the snap hook  for attaching to mooring buoys and the chain hook for attaching to the chain. It  keeps the stress off the gypsy and bow roller when anchoring and drops the angle of pull below the surface. That increases the scope in the same depth of water. I'm thinking that instead of calculating your scope using the depth and the height of you bow roller you can calculate it from where the pull starts from  below the surface.
I've never run this by an expert but it makes sense to me. 
Can anybody comment on this theory?

I had a Rocna with my previous boat which served me well and I've heard good things about the Ultra. I'm tempted to switch but so far I've had no issues with the Fortress.

Bob