Adding a fresh water gauge.

[Capt’n Ron]

This is another feature that should be standard on the Jeanneau boats, a fresh water gauge.  I use my wash down all the time when I’m out fishing and it’s frustrating running out of water because I didn’t know how much water I had, so I added a gauge today on my 2016 795. It wasn’t difficult and took about 3 hours, and the toughest part was deciding where to put the gauge. 

btw, for those looking to install on an 895, Capt’n Lynn installed one on his 895 last year. 

Gauge - KUS CPWR-WS-240-33 Water level gauge- $29.97 (Amazon)
Sensor - KUS SSS Fuel & Water level sensor size 7.5” - $53.31 (Amazon)
Tinned wire - 18/2 AWG duplex flat DC marine wire, 50 feet - $23.74 (Amazon). I only used 15 feet. 
I also used heat shrink connector sleeves.

My dealer was going to charge $900 to install a fresh water gauge. 

Here are some photos. Let me know if you want the complete install details. 

Cheers, 
Capt’n Ron






Sensor installed in water tank

[alenka]

On some boats of course there are multiple tanks so one sensor isn't going to work.  On the 43 DS there is a water used gauge that counts down the litres and is reset when all tanks are full.

[dwp]

This is a great idea! Capt'n Lynn, could you share parts and maybe a picture for the 895?

[Capt’n Ron]

Hey Don, if you are going to install in your dash or another location with fiberglass remember to use my tip of drilling the hole saw in reverse to get a nice clean cut. It takes a little longer but turns out better than some dealer installs I’ve seen. Otherwise the hole saw teeth will grab and chip the fiberglass around the hole. 

Good luck!😁

[jgmallo]

Hello all,


I guess if you have a Garmin chartplotter or similar probably it will be better to install the level sensor with the NMEA 2000 conectivity in order to see the water level on the screen.


Below a link of the sensor:
www.francobordo.com/gauge-with-nmea-2000-outlet-signal-p-346317.html

Hope this help you.

[VickeyS]

Thanks for this thread. I think this should be standard as well, along with a battery SOC gauge. Thanks for the NMEA tip, I can see a spot on my chart plotter for reports like this and that should save drilling a hole for another gauge.

[Capt’n Ron]

Thanks Gmallo for providing that info as it is a good option to save drilling another hole.😉  I have a NMEA network and initially was going to install a sensor with NMEA to display on my chart plotter, but I decided I wanted a dedicated water gauge. 

[nanus18]

Capt'n Ron, Thanks for the explanations, it will be my option 'A', option 'B' would be this display that also measures the state of charge of the batteries: simarine.net something more difficult to install by the shunt's

[lynnardm]

Mar 11, 2020 15:17:38 GMT dwp said:

This is a great idea! Capt'n Lynn, could you share parts and maybe a picture for the 895?

Here is info on my installation of a water gauge on my 895.  I used sender and gauge components made by KUS.

The 1st pic shows measuring the tank depth for the sending unit.  It should should be ordered 1/2 to 1" shorter.  This is after removal of the mechanical gauge from the tank.



Pic 2 and 3 are of the installed sender.   Note the wiring coming from the sender.  Its the one initially with black tape then the white sheathing.  Its routed in a loop then then thru the wall panel with the other wiring that is there.  Ignore some of the stuff hanging in the 3rd picture as this also shows components for the autopilot.  I just took this pic and the autopilot is currently in work.





The 4th pic shows where the sheathed wire for the sending unit heads up into the area of the back of the helm.  Its tied with other white sheathed cables and a bunch of other cables. The hanging hydraulic hoses are the autopilot in work.  Also, dont be confused by the hole in the panel to the left.  Its where I have installed a captains glove box.  The glove box can be flipped completely open so I've done this to give a bit more light to work with.



Pic 5 shows the installed gauge.  I installed it where I removed the trim tab controller.  This is a great location as I can see it while filling the water tank from outside the helm door.




The last 2 pics are not specifically for the sender and gauge wiring but rather indicate where the sheathed white wire heads to the fuse block area. Ignore what I'm pointing to in the last pic.  ITs the power heading to the electric toilet pump/macerator.   For my install I picked up power via the factory installed on/off accessory switch.  The 12v cigarette lighter and a 12v indicator gage and charger are also controlled by this switch.  This way I can turn all this on or off thereby (specifically for the water gauge and the 12v gave) its turned on only when I want it on so it doesn't draw current all the time.  I haven't included details on the electrical as it will differ on most peoples boats.  The 12v power goes to the gage then the gage is connected to the sending unit.  The instructions received with the KUS gauge and sending unit provide wiring info.





This is one of my best additions to my boat.  I don't recall the specific part numbers but you should be able to easily find them plus Captn Ron provided some info on this.

Captn Lynn

[dwp]

Thank you Capt'n Lynn!  It will be a few days before I can get to my boat and look but I believe on my 895 where you installed the gauge is a small clear cap with a 6 bolt setup.  There is a pattern for a 5 bolt setup embedded in the plastic on the other side of the tank that looks to match the sender unit used but not sure I want to drill new holes in the water tank.   

Thanks again!

[lynnardm]

Dwp

The small clear cap sounds like it’s the cover on the mechanical gauge. That’s the one I removed. I don’t recall if there were any other mount locations on my tank. I removed the mechanical gauge and drilled a new hole pattern for the sending unit. This was easy. The plastic was fairly thick at the the pattern location so good for holding screws. Some tips if you decide to use this location... I drilled holes about or slightly larger than the size of the screws inner diameter. Use a flat file as necessary to make sure the mating surface where you drilled is flat (without edges of plastic sticking up where you drilled). I don’t recall if I used the existing screws or got new ones. But they were sheet metal style screws which self tapped quite nicely and pulled down tight on the gasket with no problem. Just gently tighten the screws. There’s no pressure or forces on the sending unit so this should be problem free.

Capt’n Lynn

[Gio]

I would like to thank you all for the instructions posted in this thread - I have installed the water gauge in my Sport/Marlin 895 and it works perfectly.

This is how the water tank was looking before the installation:



Here the tool used to drill the hole, and I opted for stainless steel screws as shown in picture, with these i avoided to pre-drill a hole as the tank material is soft enough for these to penetrate and stay solid.



I have opted for a NMEA 2000 fluid adapter so i can send the data directly to the plotter. This is how the installation looks like:




Tested and all is good, this is where i opted to see the water tank data:



I think the analog solution posted above maybe is more handy as you can see the water info any time without surfing the functions of your chartplotter, I opted for the NMEA solution to avoid to drill an additional hole in the cabin.

[Capt’n Ron]

Nice job Gio, looks great!  I agree, this should be standard equipment. I was quoted $400 by the dealer to do this install on a new 895, but as we have experienced, it’s not a difficult or expensive DIY project and you didn’t even have to drill holes in your boat.😊

What’s great about this forum and discussions is over the past 4 years I’ve seen Jeanneau add many of the discussed features as standard equipment on the newer boats, so I anticipate the water gage will also become standard in the near future. 

Cheers,
Ron

[Gio]

Thanks Cap't Ron, but first of all thanks to you for the valuable info. It costed me around $150 for the parts, and a couple of hours for the installation.


Question for you and others in the community - what about the gray water tank? (the flush water coming from the toilet)

Anyone successfully installed a gauge there? It seems very difficult to access.

Measuring the level of the water there would be another very useful feature...

[pnw895owner]

Gio,
I think I’m going for the NMEA version as well. Was this your part list:

- www.francobordo.com/gauge-with-nmea-2000-outlet-signal-p-346317.html

- Tinned wire - 18/2 AWG duplex flat DC marine wire, 50 feet - $23.74 (Amazon).

- heat shrink connector sleeves & stainless steel screws.

Anything I’m missing? And did you tie into the electrical as Captain Lynn showed in those pics?

Otherwise this seems relatively straightforward and useful project that will be pretty hard for me to screw up too badly.

[Gio]

Jul 5, 2020 15:43:28 GMT pnw895owner said:

Gio,
I think I’m going for the NMEA version as well. Was this your part list:

- www.francobordo.com/gauge-with-nmea-2000-outlet-signal-p-346317.html

- Tinned wire - 18/2 AWG duplex flat DC marine wire, 50 feet - $23.74 (Amazon).

- heat shrink connector sleeves & stainless steel screws.

Anything I’m missing? And did you tie into the electrical as Captain Lynn showed in those pics?

Otherwise this seems relatively straightforward and useful project that will be pretty hard for me to screw up too badly.

Hi there,

i used a different setup as i had some parts already:

1x Sensor - KUS SSS Fuel & Water level sensor size 7.5”
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y831Q0I/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the same analog sensor recommended by Capt. Ron above

1x Fluid sensor NMEA for Simrad + T junction
(this is specific only for Simrad)
www.amazon.com/Lowrance-Fluid-Level-Sensor-Pack-0/dp/B01DFSLIIQ
it comes with 3mt of cable already

1x NMEA extension cable 1m
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XQ65XF3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I needed an extension to reach the nmea backbone

2x heat shrink connector sleeves, 3x stainless steel screws

I didn't connect anything else, power comes from the NMEA backbone so was a very simple job, pretty much plug and play.

In general, i think the NMEA sensor that you included in your post should work, but i think you only need a nmea cable extension only + the T junction.

[jgmallo]

Jul 4, 2020 8:56:11 GMT Gio said:

I would like to thank you all for the instructions posted in this thread - I have installed the water gauge in my Sport/Marlin 895 and it works perfectly.

This is how the water tank was looking before the installation:



Here the tool used to drill the hole, and I opted for stainless steel screws as shown in picture, with these i avoided to pre-drill a hole as the tank material is soft enough for these to penetrate and stay solid.



I have opted for a NMEA 2000 fluid adapter so i can send the data directly to the plotter. This is how the installation looks like:




Tested and all is good, this is where i opted to see the water tank data:



I think the analog solution posted above maybe is more handy as you can see the water info any time without surfing the functions of your chartplotter, I opted for the NMEA solution to avoid to drill an additional hole in the cabin.

Hello Gio,


Nice work! Could you please let us know which depth/longitude have you choosen for the sensor? As I said, I am looking for install the same system in our new 895 sport.

Thanks!

[Gio]

Jul 6, 2020 7:16:23 GMT jgmallo said:

Hello Gio,


Nice work! Could you please let us know which depth/longitude have you choosen for the sensor? As I said, I am looking for install the same system in our new 895 sport.

Thanks!

Hi there,

thanks, i spent quite a bit of time and the setup is perfect. 

the "depth" or size of the sensor is the one recommended above by Capt'n Ron: 7.5". Just follow the link and you can find it. Water tanks are standard across the same model.

Longitude: i am not sure I understand what you mean.

[jgmallo]

Jul 6, 2020 17:07:15 GMT Gio said:

Jul 6, 2020 7:16:23 GMT jgmallo said:

Hello Gio,


Nice work! Could you please let us know which depth/longitude have you choosen for the sensor? As I said, I am looking for install the same system in our new 895 sport.

Thanks!

Hi there,

thanks, i spent quite a bit of time and the setup is perfect. 

the "depth" or size of the sensor is the one recommended above by Capt'n Ron: 7.5". Just follow the link and you can find it. Water tanks are standard across the same model.

Longitude: i am not sure I understand what you mean.

Thanks Gio! That's the info I need. Longitude and depth in this case for me have the same meaming. I will do this retrofit next month.

[westboating]

My 2018 Garmin chart plotter has the ability to place these readings on your home screen.  I'd love to send the black water and fesh water level to the plotter.

[captaintheo]

Mar 9, 2020 1:11:20 GMT Capt’n Ron said:

This is another feature that should be standard on the Jeanneau boats, a fresh water gauge.  I use my wash down all the time when I’m out fishing and it’s frustrating running out of water because I didn’t know how much water I had, so I added a gauge today on my 2016 795. It wasn’t difficult and took about 3 hours, and the toughest part was deciding where to put the gauge. 

btw, for those looking to install on an 895, Capt’n Lynn installed one on his 895 last year. 

Gauge - KUS CPWR-WS-240-33 Water level gauge- $29.97 (Amazon)
Sensor - KUS SSS Fuel & Water level sensor size 7.5” - $53.31 (Amazon)
Tinned wire - 18/2 AWG duplex flat DC marine wire, 50 feet - $23.74 (Amazon). I only used 15 feet. 
I also used heat shrink connector sleeves.

My dealer was going to charge $900 to install a fresh water gauge. 

Here are some photos. Let me know if you want the complete install details. 

Cheers, 
Capt’n Ron






Sensor installed in water tank

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[captaintheo]

Since this company (sensor) is in Europe my Jeanneau Dealer recommended kus-usa.com/products/liquid-level-sender/

Thoughts?

Jul 4, 2020 8:56:11 GMT Gio said:

I would like to thank you all for the instructions posted in this thread - I have installed the water gauge in my Sport/Marlin 895 and it works perfectly.

This is how the water tank was looking before the installation:



Here the tool used to drill the hole, and I opted for stainless steel screws as shown in picture, with these i avoided to pre-drill a hole as the tank material is soft enough for these to penetrate and stay solid.



I have opted for a NMEA 2000 fluid adapter so i can send the data directly to the plotter. This is how the installation looks like:




Tested and all is good, this is where i opted to see the water tank data:



I think the analog solution posted above maybe is more handy as you can see the water info any time without surfing the functions of your chartplotter, I opted for the NMEA solution to avoid to drill an additional hole in the cabin.

[Gio]

Jul 18, 2020 16:46:55 GMT captaintheo said:

Since this company (sensor) is in Europe my Jeanneau Dealer recommended kus-usa.com/products/liquid-level-sender/

Thoughts?

Jul 4, 2020 8:56:11 GMT Gio said:

I think is the same I used, see the links above. It is the same brand and model recommended in other posts

[icebreaker]

Thanks to all involved in this thread, it was good reading. We have been driving our 895 Sport/Marlin for a couple of months now and unfortunately I have to admit that it has been more pain than joy for us. The name of our boat, Joy2me couldn´t be more wrong. We have done almost 1000 nautical miles in all kind of conditions so I think I have some kind of a "picture" about the boat. Many things are positive so don´t take me wrong, I am not a picky guy who cries about everything but when You see my list of troubles I guess some of You will admit that sofar I haven´t been the lucky guy. I will put up a new thread  soon and hopefully we will have a creative chat that ends up in sunshine for Jeanneau powerboat owners.

Greetings from Icebreaker

[captaintheo]

Aug 7, 2020 20:39:33 GMT icebreaker said:

Thanks to all involved in this thread, it was good reading. We have been driving our 895 Sport/Marlin for a couple of months now and unfortunately I have to admit that it has been more pain than joy for us. The name of our boat, Joy2me couldn´t be more wrong. We have done almost 1000 nautical miles in all kind of conditions so I think I have some kind of a "picture" about the boat. Many things are positive so don´t take me wrong, I am not a picky guy who cries about everything but when You see my list of troubles I guess some of You will admit that sofar I haven´t been the lucky guy. I will put up a new thread  soon and hopefully we will have a creative chat that ends up in sunshine for Jeanneau powerboat owners.

Greetings from Icebreaker

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