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Post by markclement on Mar 29, 2020 23:46:14 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Jeanneau have stopped using these glass splash back panels, I did ask the question for my Yachts 51, which is crying out for a splash back, but the only response was, they don't do splash backs anymore. Maybe the problem is the change in temperature range, causing the glass to contract and expand, if so the answer would be to set the glass in a flexible sealant to allow for this movement. Hi there, We added the much needed splashback on our J51 Beyond Cool just after commissioning almost three years ago. Our temps in Oz do not have extremes (esp no extreme cold with lowest winter temp of 5 deg C) and top temps of 30/ 35 deg downstairs on the hottest summer day.
See the details and pics on the link below to the closed Jeaneau 51 thread. Cheers Mark
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Post by jy51 on Apr 28, 2020 8:04:26 GMT
Mark, many apologies for the long delay in responding, my excuse being I only just logged on today, normally I view this site without logging in. I did view your pictures and followed your comments regarding installing the splash back. I have shown the pictures to my wife, who was very impressed and wanted to know why she couldn't have a husband as handy as you. I did promise to think about doing the same!
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Post by markclement on Apr 28, 2020 21:46:42 GMT
Mark, many apologies for the long delay in responding, my excuse being I only just logged on today, normally I view this site without logging in. I did view your pictures and followed your comments regarding installing the splash back. I have shown the pictures to my wife, who was very impressed and wanted to know why she couldn't have a husband as handy as you. I did promise to think about doing the same! Hi, My wife’s message to your better half is “be careful what you wish for” ..... The brackets were much better than the ones Jeanneau used to use I believe. This Melbourne, Australia supplier has a link to the detailed dimensions. btw - we are def glad we installed the splash back - effective and looks great. Cheers fgs.com.au/products/frameless-showers/brackets/u-brackets/sb10-c.html
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Post by jy51 on Apr 29, 2020 9:50:23 GMT
Mark, Thanks for the link, I see they are sold as glass shelf supports, I'm sure I can source them near to me, here in the south of France. Thank your wife, but my better half would prefer the expression that starts with "The devil you known is better than....." My standard response is always, "who would you get to sail the boat without your captain"?
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Post by sitara on Apr 29, 2020 22:59:55 GMT
Glass shelf supports, same or very similar to those I used in my boat. So they must be readily available. I got mine from a shower screen shop. I also used acrylic (10 mm) instead of glass and that has been fine.
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Post by MalcolmP on May 2, 2020 9:02:32 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Jeanneau have stopped using these glass splash back panels, I did ask the question for my Yachts 51, which is crying out for a splash back, but the only response was, they don't do splash backs anymore. Maybe the problem is the change in temperature range, causing the glass to contract and expand, if so the answer would be to set the glass in a flexible sealant to allow for this movement. Hi there, We added the much needed splashback on our J51 Beyond Cool just after commissioning almost three years ago. Our temps in Oz do not have extremes (esp no extreme cold with lowest winter temp of 5 deg C) and top temps of 30/ 35 deg downstairs on the hottest summer day.
See the details and pics on the link below to the closed Jeaneau 51 thread. Cheers Mark Now added as a permanent article in Hints and Tips www.jeanneau-owners.com/hintsandtips/splashback.html
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Post by coeur on Sept 28, 2020 17:58:10 GMT
Just bought a Sun Odyssey 35 which did not have the galley backsplash so I can't trace the original to have a new one fabricated. Does anyone have the specifications for the backsplash or can suggest where I can find a replacement?
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Post by andyirvine on Oct 8, 2020 5:07:51 GMT
I’m happy to share the drawing I made for my replacement but some dimensions were guesses as I had little to work on! Key dimensions were the spacing between the brackets and the spacing between the pair of threaded bosses on each bracket. The outside dimensions of the panel were guessed from photos I could find online, but weren’t really critical. I’d love a copy please ohana. Ours has shattered as well, and we are not in a rush. Cheers
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Post by ohana on Oct 10, 2020 22:24:09 GMT
Andy, sent you a PM
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Post by coeur on Oct 24, 2020 19:49:14 GMT
I’m happy to share the drawing I made for my replacement but some dimensions were guesses as I had little to work on! Key dimensions were the spacing between the brackets and the spacing between the pair of threaded bosses on each bracket. The outside dimensions of the panel were guessed from photos I could find online, but weren’t really critical.
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Post by coeur on Oct 24, 2020 19:50:34 GMT
Hello Ohana -
Thanks for your response. I would appreciate a copy of your drawings. My email is tagindy@aol.com.
Best regards, Indira
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Post by ohana on Oct 24, 2020 21:22:49 GMT
Hi, my apologies, my normally failsafe filing system has let me down and I cannot find the drawing I made of the panel!
I will take some dimensions when next on the boat for you, likely next week or so
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Post by coeur on Nov 9, 2020 20:51:24 GMT
I understand how that goes! Thanks so much for offering to send along dimensions...very much appreciated. If you could send a photo would also be great. Coeur
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Post by NZL50505 on Nov 9, 2020 22:37:59 GMT
Does anyone know the dimensions of the splashback for a 50DS? Think I'll get it made in acrylic.
My delivery skipper has reported mine has shattered :-(
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Post by NZL50505 on Dec 28, 2020 0:51:55 GMT
Ok so my replacement splashback glass has arrived from Jeanneau - time to fit. Q: how do I undo the fasteners? They wiggle and rotate freely but don’t unscrew / loosen. How do I remove them to slot my new glass into place? I don’t want to try too hard just pulling them straight off in case I break something? Such a numpty question I know but pls help! Thanks Attachment Deleted
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Post by NZL50505 on Dec 28, 2020 4:56:25 GMT
Solved my own question!
It’s a strange double-screw mechanism with a screw for the glass retention itself and another outer screw for the cosmetic cap.
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Post by MalcolmP on Dec 28, 2020 7:42:08 GMT
Solved my own question! It’s a strange double-screw mechanism with a screw for the glass retention itself and another outer screw for the cosmetic cap. Result! Can you add a photo of the outer screw? Sure would help others understand how these go together. Good luck with rest of install.
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Post by NZL50505 on Dec 29, 2020 7:36:14 GMT
I would except I’ve packed the whole lot away (including screws) in disgust. After paying steeply in advance and waiting 2 months for Jeanneau to manufacture and ship the glass to me here in NZ, today I finally offer it up to find..... the screws holes don’t align. Despite the paperwork inside the box saying it’s glass to fit 45 / 50 D models it obviously doesn’t fit my standard 50DS.
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Post by MalcolmP on Dec 29, 2020 8:19:20 GMT
I would except I’ve packed the whole lot away (including screws) in disgust. After paying steeply in advance and waiting 2 months for Jeanneau to manufacture and ship the glass to me here in NZ, today I finally offer it up to find..... the screws holes don’t align. Despite the paperwork inside the box saying it’s glass to fit 45 / 50 D models it obviously doesn’t fit my standard 50DS. Oh no! So frustrating, hope it gets sorted.
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Post by sailingabe41ds on Dec 30, 2020 2:25:00 GMT
Hi..
I guess your options are to have Jeanneau fix the problem and send you a correct piece. Or now that you have the piece take it to a local glass/plexiglass shop and tell them you want an identical piece but with the holes located in a different area. Then send this back to Jeanneau for a full refund.
Abe
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Post by jenw on Jan 12, 2022 8:22:36 GMT
Hi Ohana,
I was interested to read your post as we arrived at our Jeanneau 409 also built in 2012 today to find our glass kitchen splashback has spontaneously shattered into 5 million pieces and there are shards of glass spread all over the cabin from the head to the front bedroom and all over the lounge area. Lots of cleaning up before we could unload the groceries!!!
While there was some large chunks, it had obviously exploded with some force as there was little 'needles' of glass everywhere.
We are going to need to wear socks for quite a few days, despite damp mopping quite a few times.
Out boat is in the tropics and has been for quite a few years, so different weather conditions.
We will be replacing with perspex.
Interesting reading about the causes.
Thank you for the thread.
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 12, 2022 8:58:32 GMT
Hi Ohana, I was interested to read your post as we arrived at our Jeanneau 409 also built in 2012 today to find our glass kitchen splashback has spontaneously shattered into 5 million pieces and there are shards of glass spread all over the cabin from the head to the front bedroom and all over the lounge area. Lots of cleaning up before we could unload the groceries!!! While there was some large chunks, it had obviously exploded with some force as there was little 'needles' of glass everywhere. We are going to need to wear socks for quite a few days, despite damp mopping quite a few times. Out boat is in the tropics and has been for quite a few years, so different weather conditions. We will be replacing with perspex. Interesting reading about the causes. Thank you for the thread. How frustrating, I keep meaning too, but will now make a template of the existing splashback so I can get the same shape cut in perspex. Good luck in getting all the glass pieces.
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Post by talise on Jan 12, 2022 10:50:55 GMT
Just in case anyone hasn't joined the dots, it looks like this pretty generic glass manufacturer is the original supplier of these glass bombs: www.macocco.com/en/contact-us.htmlMaybe contact them for some context and / or a cheaper option to replace?
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Post by ohana on Jan 12, 2022 11:47:11 GMT
Hi Ohana, I was interested to read your post as we arrived at our Jeanneau 409 also built in 2012 today to find our glass kitchen splashback has spontaneously shattered into 5 million pieces and there are shards of glass spread all over the cabin from the head to the front bedroom and all over the lounge area. Lots of cleaning up before we could unload the groceries!!! While there was some large chunks, it had obviously exploded with some force as there was little 'needles' of glass everywhere. We are going to need to wear socks for quite a few days, despite damp mopping quite a few times. Out boat is in the tropics and has been for quite a few years, so different weather conditions. We will be replacing with perspex. Interesting reading about the causes. Thank you for the thread. Jenw - so sorry to hear this, it is an awful thing to arrive back to the boat to find this has happened. From experience, check around some of the wood trim in the vicinity, when mine shattered, I found some of these glass shards embedded in nearby parts of the cabin. The perspex replacement has been perfectly fine and would recommend this to anyone in the same situation
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Post by jy51 on Jan 13, 2022 10:31:53 GMT
I think, with all issues, we sometimes overlook the fact that there is a considerably amount of flexing within a boat and its structures. Whilst on the hard, it is not unknown for hulls to droop a few millimetres, even over tightening standing rigging can lead to deformed hulls.
On other threads here today, people are talking about squeaks coming from bulkheads and wood structures within the boat. I have had similar flexing problems even on very heavily built boats.
Flexible sealants and glues are used throughout boat manufacturing. Glass fixed to a ridged structure, is bound to eventually break.
Maybe in time the perspex will crack also, would the answer be to drill over size holes in the Perspex and fit rubber grommets to allow for expansion and movement.
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