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Post by philipsymonds on May 27, 2023 11:44:46 GMT
I have a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42DS 2010 for 6 months only. The right saloon front window is leaking when it rains. I've tried to fix by applying some Black 3M Marine Adesive Sealant, but it still leaks. May be I have to take out all of the old sealant and apply again, or do I have to take the window out and start from scratch? How do I take the window out without damage the frame or the inside material?
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Post by philipsymonds on May 27, 2023 12:01:09 GMT
Hello. I am new to the forum but have been reading all the sorry tails of the design on the Sun Odyssey 42 DS. The windows are all designed with the bonded fixing method, as you would find with a car. The problem is that cars rarely sit all year in the sun and salt water environment!. My boat, and I must add that I love her, is a 2008 model and based in and around the Med. I have the same issue only on the port side. I guess which side goes first is usually the afternoon sun side when your moored up. So I have been thinking, while reading. I have 3 options. The first is to dig out the old Sikaflex, repair a few small cracks using a Dremel and repair and replace the periphery Sikaflex. Or two, remove the existing windows and re-bond, but I have read stories of them breaking in two on removal. Mine too are looking externally tired. The black coating has started to wear off and so needs repainting too. Thirdly to have them professionally replaced with new. Here is my issue-I have asked Shepherds in Gibraltar for a quote. They are Euros 1350 each window to buy plus shipping. This is extortionate for two small plexiglass windows and 6x my front Land Rover Discovery front window with all its bells and whistles. Does this seem a correct price, has anyone been offered anything different please, if so where, mindful that I am in Europe? I would be most grateful for a response and help. Kind regards Phil
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Post by Tafika II on May 27, 2023 16:46:27 GMT
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Post by NZL50505 on May 28, 2023 6:48:17 GMT
Likewise I had my 42DS windows resealed in-situ and it was successful. If it had not been I would have proceeded to next stage of (much more expensive) removal. But that’s wasn’t required.
So I suggest you also try the non-removal re-seal option first!
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Post by philipsymonds on Oct 21, 2023 22:09:00 GMT
Hello all.
Here is the latest. I took the first easy option that was, non removal, re-bonding. This was professionally done and failed in a day after with heavy rain. I now have tape over the windows.
I have spent the last 5 months investigating all the removal and re-bonding methods and I have no fear of doing any of it. The issue is simple now for us all. Jeanneau no longer support our boats. They have some windows left in stock and some not. If you attempt to get the window out and break it, you have a serious issue.
After talking to over 20 Plexiglass manufactures all over Europe, the conclusion is that there isn't a manufacturer with the tooling. Each window has a bend in two directions of between 20mm to 120mm and you cannot manufacture successfully without tooling and an industrial oven up to 140 degrees. Its certainly not a DIY job if you ever want to sell your boat.
In addition, the tooling many of the companies quote is single use. The cost per set >£2000 but more importantly, they need your old windows as patterns! for me that's four weeks without windows in place and a serious amount of logistics, customs and packaging. One manufacture I found in Portugal has prepared multi use tooling, so I am currently discussing them making >10 sets for the 42DS Sun Odyssey 2008 model. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who might potentially want a complete set (6 windows). They don't add the Frit or the internal primed surface, but that part is not difficult. phil_symonds@msn.com
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