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Post by ihsan on Feb 29, 2020 21:31:48 GMT
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Post by Capt’n Ron on Mar 1, 2020 16:10:14 GMT
Ihsan, thanks for posting the photos, and its good seeing an Evo 40 installed. it would be great if you cold post a few more photos with a wider view of the install to show the ducting and fuel, as well as the outlets you installed.
Cheers, Ron
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Post by ihsan on Mar 1, 2020 21:45:56 GMT
Ron, recently I took the boat from İstanbul to Marmaris from land to get ready for summer. In the coming weeks I will go and take more pictures regarding connections and tank of the Webasto. I wish I had taken pictures earlier. I am also planning to install a 15 liter water heater before summer. Probably the unit will be in the space available under the co-pilot seat. For this purpose, I plan to reach there from the corridor side by cutting the fiber and placing a suitable lid. After installing the webasto we were very happy indeed. But I wont advise any new boat owner to sleep in the closed cabin for some 3 or more months, may be more.. because the chemical activity in the fiber is still going on. I think heat increases the activity more. It is definitely not good for health. The smell is there. The new users like me should be aware of this issue..
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Post by zaphod on Mar 2, 2020 1:20:41 GMT
Hi folks In the end I didn't get any info re the heater from anyone. However I did make progress and managed to get one installed by a marine engineer. I am delighted with the outcome. A very neat job and took up a lot less space than I anticipated. The heater itself is a 2kw with 2 outlets, one in the main cabin andnthe outher adjustable one pointing to the sleeping quarters. The heater itself has been installed in the outside hold and the fan has 7 setttings. The higher the setting, the more power is used by the fan. So far we have had ig set at 2 or 3 in temperatures to -3. I have some photos but having trouble uploading at the moment The one concern is a general power one. The heater runs from the service battery along with the fridge, fishfinder etc. When i go fishing sometimes we can anchor up for a couple of days and this means the battery is a concern. As a result i am looking other options, one is to change the current leisure type battery with one of the new lilon type batteries that have a large capacity (see attached link) www.carplounge.de/en/loungebox-new ? Does anyone know if this is a viable option ? I know this is an old post, but I just came across it. I am not crazy about the what that heater is installed. I assume the red gasoline tank is actually being used as a diesel day tank for the heater? I certainly hope it isn't a gasoline tank! My concern with the installation is the heater is drawing inlet air directly from the locker. That means that if the fuel tank leaks, or fuel is spilled when refilling it, fuel vapors will be drawn into the living space. I cannot tell if the combustion air intake has been ducted to the outside, but I certainly hope it is. It is incorrect to draw return air and combustion air from the same space, particularly in a space that small. I don't think that installation is very safe.
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Post by ihsan on Mar 24, 2020 17:51:01 GMT
Ihsan, thanks for posting the photos, and its good seeing an Evo 40 installed. it would be great if you cold post a few more photos with a wider view of the install to show the ducting and fuel, as well as the outlets you installed. Cheers, Ron Hi Ron! I went to Marmaris last week to check the boat. Actually Webasto Evo 40 and its connections were made at the factory in Poland. What I did was I changed the location of the Webasto and the steel diesel tank. In addition, instead of this factory built tank I ordered a new custom made steel tank to fit in its new place. The original tank was a 24 liter steel tank, the new one is 18 liters. In my opinion it can even be a few liters smaller. The factory had installed its steel tank in the main storage unit at the stern where the battaries are located. And all the cables were traveling from one corner to the other to reach the Webasto unit mounted on the other side of adjacent seperation wall of the starboard storage . This meant you were almost not able to make use of your main storage and the adjacent starboard one. Because of the mounting of the Webasto its fresh air intake, hot air and exhaust lines were covering almost all area of this starboard storage, making difficult to reach and see corners. The hot air intake is placed facing inside the cockpit area and the exhaust is outside, facing the sea. The hot air pipes and outlets inside the cabin are placed professionally. No intervention was made. The main line goes from the starboard locker to the rear side of the kitchen and travels up to the pilot seat area which is actually the main outlet. From here it makes a sharp turn and reaches to the smaller cabin area outlet by passing throuh the second floor storage unit. From the cabin area outlet just in the floor opposite the head, it travels to the port side and from the corner reaches up to the window outlets from under. There are two outlets for the window placed symmetrically. The end of the line is the outlet facing the pilot area. I hope this information and the following pictures will be helpful.
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Post by ihsan on Mar 24, 2020 19:48:14 GMT
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Post by Capt’n Ron on Mar 25, 2020 16:27:18 GMT
Ihsan, thanks for posting the photos, and its good seeing an Evo 40 installed. it would be great if you cold post a few more photos with a wider view of the install to show the ducting and fuel, as well as the outlets you installed. Cheers, Ron Hi Ron! I went to Marmaris last week to check the boat. Actually Webasto Evo 40 and its connections were made at the factory in Poland. What I did was I changed the location of the Webasto and the steel diesel tank. In addition, instead of this factory built tank I ordered a new custom made steel tank to fit in its new place. The original tank was a 24 liter steel tank, the new one is 18 liters. In my opinion it can even be a few liters smaller. The factory had installed its steel tank in the main storage unit at the stern where the battaries are located. And all the cables were traveling from one corner to the other to reach the Webasto unit mounted on the other side of adjacent seperation wall of the starboard storage . This meant you were almost not able to make use of your main storage and the adjacent starboard one. Because of the mounting of the Webasto its fresh air intake, hot air and exhaust lines were covering almost all area of this starboard storage, making difficult to reach and see corners. The hot air intake is placed facing inside the cockpit area and the exhaust is outside, facing the sea. The hot air pipes and outlets inside the cabin are placed professionally. No intervention was made. The main line goes from the starboard locker to the rear side of the kitchen and travels up to the pilot seat area which is actually the main outlet. From here it makes a sharp turn and reaches to the smaller cabin area outlet by passing throuh the second floor storage unit. From the cabin area outlet just in the floor opposite the head, it travels to the port side and from the corner reaches up to the window outlets from under. There are two outlets for the window placed symmetrically. The end of the line is the outlet facing the pilot area. I hope this information and the following pictures will be helpful. Hi Ihsan, thanks for the detailed description of the installation as it’s very helpful. I’ve talked to a few other owners with the factory installed heaters and one complaint I hear is the location of the outlet at the helm (below the helm seat around the calf of the leg?) that it gets too hot and I believe this outlet cannot be closed, correct? I’ve not seen the location of the heater install from the factory, but it sounds like your changes have made the compartment useable again. If someone could post photos of the heater installation and vent locations that would be great. Thanks, Ron
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Post by ihsan on Mar 25, 2020 22:41:57 GMT
Ron its true, The outlet next to the helm is the first outlet and the wider one. The heat from the webasto reaches this unit without making any turns. Therefore, it gets hot, especially during the first stages of the firing, however later it becomes moderate when inside temperature rises and heat decreases. For this reason, personally I find it tolerable. The heat and blow decreases as the line proceeds to your other outlets.
I think you can place it further down closer to your feet in the helm position. Otherwise, the only alternative seems the corridor side of your storage area under the table or the co pilot seat. Almost opposite side of the helm. This would be a better option for the even distribution of the heat with some sacrifice from your storage area. You may have to compansate with a little heat loss since your line will be a little longer and have to make a 90 degree turn.
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Post by fritz on Mar 30, 2020 22:53:01 GMT
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Post by nanus18 on Mar 31, 2020 7:10:49 GMT
thanks, great job!!!
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Post by rickywales on Apr 19, 2020 19:36:53 GMT
I had a 10 litre tank on my princess and a 7 day timer on Eberspacher heater, it was set to come on 3 times per day for 1 hr at a medium temp setting, I had a Auxiliary 110ah battery that was charged from two solar panels and found that 10 litres would last a month in the winter
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