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Post by lscbob on Nov 9, 2017 17:20:47 GMT
I bought a 2006 Sun 2500 (love it!), this summer and now have it ashore on blocks for the winter.
Having jet-washed the mud from the keel box, I am wondering how often the lifting keel should be removed to check the pin and the bushes. It seems a bit floppy to me, ie too much sideways movement when half down.
Does anyone have experience of maintaining this keel and knowledge of where to obtain any spare parts required?
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Post by MalcolmP on Nov 9, 2017 17:50:14 GMT
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Post by MalcolmP on Nov 9, 2017 18:11:46 GMT
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Post by rene460 on Nov 9, 2017 20:57:50 GMT
Hi Iscbob,
Welcome to the forum. I am sure you will enjoy your boat.
If you have a bit of a trawl through the various general topics you will find more information about lift keel experience in addition to the hints and tips Malcolm has pointed to you, as well as lots of other interesting information.
I have a lift keel SO30i, and have not not removed the keel since new in 2009. Some side play is not an issue, if you have no clearance it will jam, especially if you leave the boat in the water for more than a couple of weeks. When you are sailing, there is sufficient side force on the board to hold it in place. In addition to the heeling which also holds it against the side of the casing. In fact you probably could not adjust it while sailing due to the friction.
I have done most of my sailing in trailerables over forty years, and the only ones that annoy are occasionally when one is hanging entirely on ropes, a lifting board with no pin, has a bit much clearance and flops around when you are trying to sleep on a dead calm night. Anything that heels your boat the slightest bit will keep them quiet.
The only thing I would suggest checking is that the pin has not worn the hole too big, so not side to side clearance but movement up and down on the pin. But this is very hard to check if the keel is heavy. And also inspect the lifting rope, especially where it attaches to the keel when ever you have the opportunity, and replace it if in any doubt about its condition. The part above the water line in the casing causes very little problem.
The important thing is to understand your keel. Is it heavy and hence intended to contribute to stability? In this case, always put it full down, preferably with a hold down device, before raising sail and until you have dropped the sails, and always sail with it full down. Obviously up is fine for motoring , though you will probably need it down a little for steering. Also no problem to lift it a bit in shallow water until you are back in the deep. Or is the keel light weight like a dingy centreboard, intended only for lateral resistance when tacking, and not a contributor to stability, in which case you can lift it sailing downwind like a dingy of you really want to. On the 30i, it is the latter type, though long habit with a heavy board leads me to normally leave it down. I only make minimal extra leeway when it is up.
I hope that helps,
Enjoy your sailing
rene460
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Post by lscbob on Nov 10, 2017 19:29:44 GMT
Thank you Malcolm and rene460, some very useful advice. My keel is actually quite heavy, but I have been pleasantly surprised at how well the boat sails even when the keel is right up. The stub keel and box is also very heavy and totally below the bottom of the boat so I guess that is why.
Regards Bob
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Post by rene460 on Nov 11, 2017 5:44:51 GMT
Hi Iscbob,
It sounds like your lift keel,is similar to the 30i, where the stability is indeed provided by the fixed long keel under the boat. When I say the board is light, I should have qualified that it is light when submerged in water. On the crane in the boat yard it is heavy compared with what I can lift, but in the water, it displaces its volume in water. And it proves Archimedes correct every time. Despite its weight in air, the most common trouble on the water is refusing to go down. In fact the 30i even has special fittings to enable us to push it down. Check if you have a mysterious through hull, just aft of the table, on centre line over the keel! If so, there should also be somewhere on board, a long stainless steel rod with a T handle on one end and the other end finished concave so it does not slip off the back of the board when it is up and a short clear reinforced hose with a fitting one end to screw into that through hull before you open the valve. Or perhaps yours is heavy enough to always go down.
While you have it all up on blocks, get the yard to lift the boat with the crane so you can completely lower the board and clean out the centreboard casing thoroughly. To remove any barnacles or firmly packed mud, you may need a narrow paint scraper fitted with a long handle, and thoroughly antifoul the insides of the casing. Again you may need to fit a long handle to one of those miniature rollers or a foam brush in preparation.
rene460
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Sailors-Looking for a 2000-2006, 21'-26', jeanneau in america, regards
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Post by penna1 on Jun 20, 2018 13:19:46 GMT
I bought a 2006 Sun 2500 (love it!), this summer and now have it ashore on blocks for the winter. Having jet-washed the mud from the keel box, I am wondering how often the lifting keel should be removed to check the pin and the bushes. It seems a bit floppy to me, ie too much sideways movement when half down. Does anyone have experience of maintaining this keel and knowledge of where to obtain any spare parts required? Ahoy Iscbob, Your post is a little old to reply to but I am searching for 2000-2006, Jeanneau 24-25' sailboat in the USA. I like your choice of the 2500. I have been unable to find a one in the states. Former Benneteau 235 skipper. Thanks for any leads sailors. penna1@aol.com St. Louis, USA |
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