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Post by michaelpannone on Aug 19, 2017 9:08:11 GMT
Hi everyone,
Ill introduce myself, my names Michael, I'm a 25 y/o and have just purchased a 1983 Sun Fizz in south France and I need help!
This might be a long shot, but would anyone be able to provide me with a Jeanneau Sun Fizz 40 builders certification. I need the information that's on it. I know that I can get the info from Jeanneau.com but they are currently on holidays for the month of August and I need the info asap so that I can register my boat asap. I'm an Australian buying a Sun Fizz in France and in order to get the boat registered in Australia I need a builders cert, so if anyone has done this before and has a copy of an old one or can give me any help id really appreciate it!
Thank you for any help or advice,
Michael
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Post by hoppy on Aug 19, 2017 10:33:37 GMT
Michael,
You don't need the builders certificate for the rego. I registered mine in Aus last year and instead of the builders cert, there was a stat dec you can fill in with the dimensions.
You should call amsa as they are very helpful. As well as making it clear about what docs you need, they asked me to email all documents to them and the checked them for mistakes ad omissions so that when I posted the originals to them it was just a formality.
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Post by hoppy on Aug 19, 2017 10:57:32 GMT
The stat dec is a document called "Statutory declaration for builder's certificate" and is document AMSA222 which you will find on this page www.amsa.gov.au/forms-and-publications/international/forms/Ship_Reg/index.aspNot all items need to be filled. Several of the tonnage values are not needed for yachts. I took most measurements from the owners manual. One of the only values I needed to get measured was "moulded depth of amidships (n)?". Go through the document filling in as much as possible and ask the guy from AMSA about anything you are unsure about. I believe that there is only one person who handles the registrations, so if he is still there you will probably end up talking to Pat
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Post by michaelpannone on Aug 19, 2017 11:11:45 GMT
Hi Hoppy,
Cheers for the info, I know about the stat dec as well, I guess I am just posting on this forum to see even if anyone has filled one out for the same boat so that I can reference it. The reason why is because I have looked over the stat dec and I find it a bit overwhelming and don't believe I have enough knowledge to fill it out properly (Im not very boat tech savy)! I will look into filling out the stat dec using the owners manual etc and see how I go! Thanks for the help mate!
Cheers, Michael
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Post by moe58 on Aug 24, 2017 16:13:05 GMT
Hi All
I have just joined the owners network. So I apologize if I am not posting the proper way. My wife and I recently bought Lady Gracious, our 2017 Sun Oddyssey 389. Our home port is Sooke, British Columbia. This is the first time ever we buy a sailboat, and we are also new to the sailing world as well. We are trying to find out if we can get help in creating a maintenance and winterization checklist for her. We would also appreciate any tips on sailing and taking care of her. Many thanks.
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Post by Don Reaves on Aug 24, 2017 19:01:02 GMT
moe58 -- Try looking at this thread for a winterization checklist. I don't recall any threads specifically on maintenance, but you might try using the Search page to look for keywords you're interested in. Congratulations on your new boat! Don
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Post by moe58 on Aug 25, 2017 16:02:38 GMT
Thanks very much Don!
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Post by jdl01 on Aug 25, 2017 21:08:10 GMT
Hello Moe58' We have enjoyed a 379 here on the BC coast for the last 5 years. I"m happy to answer any questions on this site or directly at jim.lowden@shaw.ca for stuff that you don't think is worth putting on this board. I"m assuming you are contemplating an in water winterization.
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Post by moe58 on Aug 26, 2017 15:12:24 GMT
Hi jdl01
Thanks very much for offering to help! As this was our first boat purchase we were surprised to find out there are no maintenance or winterization checklists in the owner's manuals, other than for the engine. The manuals have lots of maintenance items but they are spread out all over the content. Also, according to our broker, who is an expert sailor, some of the maintenance recommendations in the owner's manuals are excessive. It's difficult for us to tell what is and is not excessive. If you have developed a checklist for your 379 you can share or can advise us on the key items, it would be greatly appreciated. We will be winterizing our boat in the water. Cheers.
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Post by MalcolmP on Aug 26, 2017 15:26:59 GMT
Hi jdl01 Thanks very much for offering to help! As this was our first boat purchase we were surprised to find out there are no maintenance or winterization checklists in the owner's manuals, other than for the engine. The manuals have lots of maintenance items but they are spread out all over the content. Also, according to our broker, who is an expert sailor, some of the maintenance recommendations in the owner's manuals are excessive. It's difficult for us to tell what is and is not excessive. If you have developed a checklist for your 379 you can share or can advise us on the key items, it would be greatly appreciated. We will be winterizing our boat in the water. Cheers. This article on our Hints and Tips section is a good guide too, depending on your climate www.jeanneau-owners.com/hintsandtips/winterization.html
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Post by moe58 on Aug 27, 2017 15:44:05 GMT
Thank You!!
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Post by jdl01 on Aug 29, 2017 17:05:29 GMT
Hello Moe, Our southern coast BC, in water winterizing program looks like this. Strip and take home all sails. If they have salt on them, give them a fresh water spray down and dry first. Mildew is a significant problem here. Sky all halyards and mast lines. Remove running rigging lines. Again, mildew and mold issues. We have a three piece full boat cover over boom and spin pole extension. This is a personal preference - it sure reduces weathering on the deck, dodger and cockpit fittings. I assume you have ready access to 120v power. We have a major league 120v dehumidifier draining into the galley sink - it's on a timer and runs 10 hours out of 24. We feel this is critical for a dry, mildewless interior - ours works so well that we can leave the folded sails below all winter. The exhaust is slightly warmed and helps keep the interior from freezing. Drain potable water tank - open inspection port to pump out residual that regular circulating pump on board [12v] will not pick up. Unscrew the head of the cockpit shower and blow back any water in the line - this is the one plumbing fixture that is liable to freeze. We did put non toxic antifreeze in the potable water system first winter season, but it was unnecessary and difficult to remove the taste the following spring. Since then we have simply drained the system - leave all fixtures wide open. We do put non toxic antifreeze in the head - salt water - as it is difficult to totally drain the line to the holding tank. We do run a small 120v space heater - use only a high quality unit with a thermostatic shut off and fan assisted - for 6 hours out of 24 on an opposing cycle to the dehumidifier to minimize overload possibilities. You have to leave the house batteries on to activate the automatic bilge pump, so ongoing battery charging is required. To minimize battery wear we alternate 3 days charging/four days off, as we visit the boat twice weekly to make sure all 120v stuff is in good order. Although the moderating effect of ocean temperature generally keeps things from freezing below decks, we do remove all containers of non alcoholic beverages just in case they might freeze and break. The vents in the companionway hatchboard and the action of the dehumidifier is good enough that you don't need to leave anything else cracked open. With our deck enclosure, otters and mink can be a major messy and disheartening problem. We leave a couple of small pails - large yogurt containers - filled with cushion stuffing and completely saturated with original "pinesol" liquid cleaner, in the cockpit - one at the companionway and the other under the aft end of the cockpit table. After 30 years, this is the best defense we have found to keep the wee buggers at bay. We hope this is helpful and can contribute more if needs be. Cheers, Jim
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Post by moe58 on Aug 30, 2017 14:11:24 GMT
Hi jdl01
Thanks very much for the winterization tips! We have an in-mast furling main sail and a furling head sail. We also have a Webasto air heating system in the cabin. Would those make a difference as far as what we need to do when winterizing her?
Cheers
Moe
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Post by jdl01 on Aug 30, 2017 15:12:20 GMT
Hi Moe, Your forced air installed heater is at once inefficient and a fierce draw down on your house batteries. Save it for when you are away from shorepower in the shoulder seasons. I also feel it is unsafe to leave unattended for long periods. Locally, mold and mildew are a constant menace for sails in cool always damp weather - especially where there is little air circulation as in a rolled sail. You will see lots of local boats with sails left on, but by and large they are winter sailors or slobs who don't value the appearance or long term durability of their sails. Some local sailmakers will take down and store your sails for a fee if the removal looks like a daunting task. In my last post I forgot to mention engine stuff. Make sure your diesel tank is completely full before you put the boat away. This reduces the opportunity for condensation in the tank which will eventually result in water in the fuel. Cheers Jim
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Post by moe58 on Aug 30, 2017 22:13:36 GMT
Thanks very much Jim! I may have some more questions for you as we get closer to winterizing her.
Cheers Moe
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Post by j24sailor on Sept 16, 2017 4:48:56 GMT
Hi All I have just joined the owners network. So I apologize if I am not posting the proper way. My wife and I recently bought Lady Gracious, our 2017 Sun Oddyssey 389. Our home port is Sooke, British Columbia. This is the first time ever we buy a sailboat, and we are also new to the sailing world as well. We are trying to find out if we can get help in creating a maintenance and winterization checklist for her. We would also appreciate any tips on sailing and taking care of her. Many thanks. Hi Moe58, Congrats on your new boat, we have a Jeanneau "Hound's Hollow" just north of Sidney, please say hi if you see us, plus if you have any questions just email me at j24sailor@ gmail.com James
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Post by moe58 on Sept 16, 2017 15:58:00 GMT
Hi J24sailor
Thanks for the offer! Hope to see you sometime. Cheers
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Post by Chris Meyer on Feb 17, 2020 19:20:05 GMT
Hi All I have just joined the owners network. So I apologize if I am not posting the proper way. My wife and I recently bought Lady Gracious, our 2017 Sun Oddyssey 389. Our home port is Sooke, British Columbia. This is the first time ever we buy a sailboat, and we are also new to the sailing world as well. We are trying to find out if we can get help in creating a maintenance and winterization checklist for her. We would also appreciate any tips on sailing and taking care of her. Many thanks. Hey Moe58, We just took delivery of a 389 and will launch in a couple months. Still cold here in Michigan! I agree that the manual is a little bit light on maintenance. I look forward to learning from you! Chris
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Post by moe58 on Feb 18, 2020 16:17:07 GMT
Hello Chris This will be our third season sailing our 389. Fortunately we have not had any issues with her so far. The forum is a great source of technical information that complements the owner's manual. Enjoy! Moe58 Hey Moe58, We just took delivery of a 389 and will launch in a couple months. Still cold here in Michigan! I agree that the manual is a little bit light on maintenance. I look forward to learning from you! Chris
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