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Post by hoppy on Jul 11, 2016 5:48:32 GMT
Things happen and plans change, so now my cruising plans for 2016 consist of sailing from Corfu to Turkey and loading my yacht on a ship to send her to Newcastle NSW. I'm a bit sad that my "grand plans" have been cancelled and I'm taking the easy way to Australia, but as they say "Sh!t happens"  After 18 years in Europe my home will be once again, Melbourne, I'll be rejoining the real world (get a job) and whilst I dread leaving the Med, especially as I haven't even ventured out of Greece, I don't want to fly 24-30 hours to go sailing for 4 weeks (if I'm lucky) of the year. So I'll be interested to hear from Aussie sailors about any aspect of sailing in Aussie. I have toyed with the idea of sailing her up to QLD and basing her somewhere there, but after 6 years of flying from Sweden to Greece to have a sail, I want to try owning a yacht kept locally, so Melbourne it is. My Father has had several yachts in Melbourne so I am familiar with sailing there and do kind of dread it, but I can always move her up to QLD later. I’ve read enough of the importing to Aus, customs duty, GST, tax on shipping, valuation, AQIS etc to be numb on the idea and ready to be financially violated, so I’m more interested in stuff once the boat has cleared customs… Jessabbe should land in Newcastle in November and I’m thinking of taking her to Sydney for the summer before continuing onto Melbourne in Feb or March. So I'm interested on hearing any tips from anyone located in the region. Some of the things I’d like comments on 1. State rego… Jessabbe is currently Aus registered and I accept that I also have to get state rego. Home is Melbourne but she might stay in NSW for a few months. Can I just register her in Victoria whist she is on her way to Aus or must I register her in NSW to start with? 2. Mooring in Sydney, how hard is it to get a mooring for a few months over summer and from where and do I need to book long in advance? 3. Club memberships in Melbourne? Any comments on the clubs? I’m thinking go joining a club for social and the occasional races. I really like the Sandy club facilities (was there a couple of years ago as my fathers yacht was moored there at a brokers facility). However my home is in Albert Park and RMYS is so convenient (my Father used to be a member there) but I don’t know what the clubhouse is like. Not sure about the clubs on the Willy side, but if I end up mooring there, maybe they could be good. 4. Mooring in Melbourne options? I’m expecting to pay through the nose to start with for the first couple of years and pay a little less later (I hope). RMYS looks like it might be a good option, possibly with berths available. Docklands? Willy? Sandy looks like a good option but probably has a several year waiting list. I know there are a few Jeanneau owners with yachts based in Port Phillip Bay who occasionally post here and I'm curious to hear how you use your yachts? I think I will be wanting to do some club racing, including some of the Bass Strait races and will probably plan a summer cruising Tassie. |
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Post by sitara on Jul 12, 2016 0:13:30 GMT
Hi Hoppy,
My sailing pattern is day sails from Geelong, (Corio Bay does not have the nasty short chop that the sea breeze brings on the eastern side of Port Phillip), overnighters and shorter cruises on the Bay and then a couple of Bass Strait cruises. I do not race anymore.
RGYC offers good racing and facilities and hosts the annual Festival of Sails over Australia day weedend. The other major clubs all offer good bay racing. Ocean racing (Bass Strait and further) is organised by the ORCV (which is a club without facilities).
RMYS has recently opened a new floating marina, very nice. New marinas have opened at Mt Martha (Hidden Harbour) and at Werribee (Wyndhan Harbour) so there should not be any problems finding somewhere to park the boat.
Contact me if you need help with any specifics,
Rob
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Post by hoppy on Jul 12, 2016 4:50:44 GMT
I did not know about Wyndhan Harbour. Looks like it could be interesting, I hope they get enough business to build it fully. I had lunch at the marina in Mt Martha at the start of the year when I visited an uncle who lives by the golf course there. When I was a teen, a few times we sailed down to RGYC for the Australia day weekend. One year it was a fun sail back with the strong SW wind, surfing down the waves the whole way back  |
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Post by sitara on Jul 14, 2016 1:36:24 GMT
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Post by doxie on Jul 19, 2016 23:19:55 GMT
Hoppy as Jessabbe is landing in Newcastle I recommend that you take some time in Pittwater/Broken Bay which is about an 8 hour sail south of Newcastle and at that time of the year you should have a NE wind behind you all the way. Trevor (of this forum) and I are members of the Sail Cruising Division at the Royal Motor Yacht Club in Broken Bay and could help you with a mooring or berth. Just Google RMYC Broken Bay for more info.
Sydney Harbour (Port Jackson) is 14 nm south of Pittwater, 3 hours.
A month in Pittwater then down to Port Jackson for the Christmas new year (fireworks) could be the go.
Keep in touch.
Bob.
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Post by hoppy on Jul 20, 2016 15:16:59 GMT
An update....
I've now fully accepted the reality that I will not have time to fly up to Sydney to have a bit of fun on the harbour if I keep Jessabbe there for the summer and I also won't have time for a leisurely cruise down to Melbourne. I'd love to be on the harbour for the start of the S2H and for the NYE fireworks, but my girlfriend is due (yep having a kid, I might seem old for that but I much much younger than Mick Jagger).
So I will do a quickish delivery down to Melbourne with a few quick stops, weather permitting.
I this I will join RMYS and keep my yacht at their marina.
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Post by zofiasailing on Oct 24, 2016 23:21:41 GMT
Wow, hoppy, talk about your luck changing in an instant!
Congratulations on impending fatherhood. Your 'recreational time' aboard will now be at a premium though.
We have met many Melbourne sailors who keep their yachts in Pittwater and drive or fly up regularly to enjoy this stellar cruising ground in much kinder conditions than you'll EVER experience in Melbourne.
Your thoughts of possibly regularly cruising to Tassie is very noble too but don't underestimate the ferocity of Bass Strait to achieve that goal. The weather might not deliver the conditions needed on the days you have scheduled off. In facts Sod's Law would almost guarantee it! Kettering and Hobart could also be a great base. Arguably the cheapest sailing in Australia and easily accessible from Melbourne, although possibly not a winter playground. After years in Europe, you may not notice the cold - initially! Tassie cruising possibilities, although temperate, are unbelievable!
Maybe your weekly sailing fix might need to be as Crew around the cans in Port Phillip Bay with the benefit of making some new local friends?
FYI re boat rego. Tasmanian registration is $75 pa and you don't need to be a resident. Some other states can be x5 that figure!
Anyway, welcome home and congrats again. Big changes ahead, but the best ride of your life. Best wishes for safe arrival of Jessabbe AND baby!🎊🍾
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Post by hoppy on Oct 25, 2016 21:25:10 GMT
Thanks zofiasailing... About now I should be on my way to Newcastle to pick up Jessabbe, if the shipping company had kept to the original schedule which was, loading mid Sept in Fethiye, then Genoa, through the Panama canal, Auckland and Newcastle.. The dates kept getting pushed back and the route totally changed  Now the ship started in Portugal and went to Majorca, Genoa and is now in transit to Fethiye for loading on Saturday. It will then go through Suez to Phuket (was for a while planned to stop in Maldives) and then Newcastle and on to Auckland. The arrival date for Newcastle is not yet estimated. I had heard a month or so from Turkey so maybe it will be mid December  The baby is due just after NYE so my sail to Melbourne is all but cancelled for 2016. I'm probably needing to look for a mooring in Pittwater and keep Jessabbe there until I can bring her down. So maybe late Jan will be the time to sail her (already have permission for then). I need to start contacting places around Pittwater for a mooring.... As for Tassie... I suspect that the best way to do Tassie without loosing cruising time waiting for weather to do the crossing will be to get there in stages. 1st weekend go to either Queenscliff or Hastings and leave her there until there is good weather on a weekend for a Bass Strait crossing, then do t e crossing and moor her up on the North and fly home. The fly the family down for the summer cruise before returning her to the north coast and fly home. Then watch the weather and book a last minute flight to bring her home. That way a 4 week cruising holiday can be 100% in Tassie. |
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Post by vasko on Oct 27, 2016 19:54:02 GMT
Hoppy, First baby is the best thing in life I was 42 years old when my daughter was born . Now I'm 46 and she is still best thing in life Generally not much change for the father the first two years if you play it right . After the child turns two you start to notice that flying becomes more expensive (you buy full ticket after 2 years:) and we DO fly a lot Re sailing with youngster is all about how you manage the situation with the Admiral I started sailed with my daughter when she was 2 weeks old 1 year old she almost fell overboard as her grandmother did not listen and did not attached her life-jacket to a lifeline while sudden gust knock down the boat from Nidri towards Itaka. When she was 3 years old she fell from the pontoon in the water in our marina in south France and we got really scared as we were thinking that we lost her - it took us about 30sec to run to the end of the pontoon and the water was flat as nothing has happened and we ware devastated until we found her under the pontoon holding one of the piles and smiling. After that we spent about £1K on swimming courses until she now can swim but we are still scared for her but we sail three of us every month - including at the moment we are in south of France and sailing for the student holidays in UK:). Also we have lost her twice on airports as we fly almost every month... Things learned - swimming courses from the point the child is born, and BT tag in the pocket to track the child when go over 20 meters away. Also last but not less important the mom need to start working as soon as possible after the birth as things can go really crazy with non working moms - in some point the child become not part of life but the whole life for the mom this is kind of a problem when the child leave home when become 18 and start its own life.... |
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Post by hoppy on Oct 29, 2016 11:06:13 GMT
Also last but not less important the mom need to start working as soon as possible after the birth as things can go really crazy with non working moms - in some point the child become not part of life but the whole life for the mom this is kind of a problem when the child leave home when become 18 and start its own life.... I have a cunning plan... or perhaps it's just wishful thinking, which is for the Admrial to get working asap and I be a "stay on the boat" dad  Jessabbe has left the marina and is either near or on the ship now Seems that she should be in Aussie, in the first week of December. |
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Post by rene460 on Oct 29, 2016 11:56:22 GMT
Hi hoppy,
Until you find a suitable mooring in Port Phillip bay, you might consider Gippsland Lakes as a temporary home until you have it sorted. It is closer to Melbourne than Sydney, only 4 hours drive including a short break halfway for the family, pleasant location and practical for a weekend, closer to Tassie for a cruise and plenty of safe, sheltered moorings. I can tell you more about it if you are interested and point you to information sources.
rene460
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Post by vasko on Oct 29, 2016 14:21:57 GMT
Also last but not less important the mom need to start working as soon as possible after the birth as things can go really crazy with non working moms - in some point the child become not part of life but the whole life for the mom this is kind of a problem when the child leave home when become 18 and start its own life.... I have a cunning plan... or perhaps it's just wishful thinking, which is for the Admrial to get working asap and I be a "stay on the boat" dad Jessabbe has left the marina and is either near or on the ship now Seems that she should be in Aussie, in the first week of December. Every mom after the first baby wants to stay home and care for the baby - it is just nature..... I solved my problem by getting a full-time nanny from the native town of my wife - a middle age lady about 50 she was doing everything cooking, cleanning , dealing with the baby etc. And my wide did not have anything to do at home anymore and had no reason to not return to work.., Btw: old lady is way better then yang gurl fir nanny - we try with tang nanny for a month and it is more like babysitting only with permanently chatting over the smart phone. Btw: simotoms for probkems with mam's - saying that vaccination is wrong - usung homeopatic drugs - want to brestfeed the baby more then 6 month or a year - using a "sling" - insists on going always together everywhere - no private time for boys things - tells everyone that you are making all decisions togeter as a family and in fact she is making the decisions - accept only work from home - start talking about home schooling - wants to go only in hotels - e.g you go on boat trips but you are forced to stay during the night in hotel as the boat is too rocky to be able to sleep on it ( and 2-3 years ago this was not a issue at all) etc. And all this starts with deciding to not go to work and only look after the baby.... I have seeing this hapening on about 50% of my friends and half of them in the end break the fimily and devorce half lower there hads and accept the life thus way - bith not good solutions., |
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Post by hoppy on Nov 14, 2016 22:08:18 GMT
Jessabbe is about halfway home now  I've always thought that I needed line of sight to the Iridium satellites for my YellowBrick tracker to work, but this year I discovered that it worked from inside the cabin. So I rigged up a USB point directly to the battery and left the YB on in a cupboard. Annoyingly I discovered just a few days ago that my YB is chewing through the credits even though it is only transmitting a position a couple of times a day. I was about to write YB until I found that my tracker is set to check for messages every hour.... bugger. |
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Post by hoppy on Nov 14, 2016 22:25:56 GMT
I have a cunning plan... or perhaps it's just wishful thinking, which is for the Admrial to get working asap and I be a "stay on the boat" dad Jessabbe has left the marina and is either near or on the ship now Seems that she should be in Aussie, in the first week of December. Every mom after the first baby wants to stay home and care for the baby - it is just nature..... I solved my problem by getting a full-time nanny from the native town of my wife - a middle age lady about 50 she was doing everything cooking, cleanning , dealing with the baby etc. And my wide did not have anything to do at home anymore and had no reason to not return to work.., Btw: old lady is way better then yang gurl fir nanny - we try with tang nanny for a month and it is more like babysitting only with permanently chatting over the smart phone. Btw: simotoms for probkems with mam's - saying that vaccination is wrong - usung homeopatic drugs - want to brestfeed the baby more then 6 month or a year - using a "sling" - insists on going always together everywhere - no private time for boys things - tells everyone that you are making all decisions togeter as a family and in fact she is making the decisions - accept only work from home - start talking about home schooling - wants to go only in hotels - e.g you go on boat trips but you are forced to stay during the night in hotel as the boat is too rocky to be able to sleep on it ( and 2-3 years ago this was not a issue at all) etc. And all this starts with deciding to not go to work and only look after the baby.... I have seeing this hapening on about 50% of my friends and half of them in the end break the fimily and devorce half lower there hads and accept the life thus way - bith not good solutions., I guess I have a few challenges ahead of me |
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The baby is due just after NYE so my sail to Melbourne is all but cancelled for 2016.
