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Post by cpnb on Sept 9, 2019 11:59:45 GMT
Thanks rene,
The issue that surprised me is that it isn't getting to the bilge yet (it's an area above the bilge on the side of the boat) and there isn't an obvious ingress, so I thought I'd appeal to more experienced owners to see if this happened to anyone before.
I'll start a separate thread if I find the source.
- CPNB
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Post by Capt’n Ron on Sept 9, 2019 15:38:56 GMT
Hi CPNB, sounds like an odd one for sure. Not that it’s odd to have water in that area as I often get water there as well, but I have attributed to water access through my rod holders when it rains or some type of leak from my fresh water system, although I haven’t determined if its salt or fresh. I’ve not worried too much about it given Jeanneau built drain channels along that area so I figure they knew it could accumulate water, but I can’t rely on it being dry to where I could store anything that needs to be dry. I also haven’t determined when its happening; rain, wash down, on the trailer or under way, so I don’t have much I can help you there. Have you contacted the dealer? Cheers, Ron
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jb76
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Jeanneau Model: MF 795 (2018)
Yacht Name: Aldebaran
Home Port: Boat Lagoon Phuket
Country: Thailand
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Post by jb76 on Sept 26, 2019 5:51:37 GMT
Hi Jeremy, I‘d say it depends on the conditions you will be using it. In calm waters with little to no current the 6hp would probably be sufficient, but in winds and/or stronger currents I know I have to kick up my 9.9 high thrust to keep on course. The other thing to consider is I had to get the long shaft and a 5 inch extension for my kicker to get the prop far enough in the water given how high the mounting bracket is above the water line. You might not have room to stow a long shaft kicker. Cheers, Ron Hi Ron, I noticed your kicker set up and it looks impressive! I am currently trying to install a safety/kicker engine as well just to find out that it is not so easy on the 795 due to layout and the elevation of the plateform. Just to understand you were saying that you installed a 9.9HP yamaha engine, with 25" shaft and had it modified to be 30" ? Was it the 9.9T: yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboards/25-2-5-hp/9-9-8#specs-compareIs your engine fixed permanently ? I saw from your pictures that you have a big bracket was it of the shelf or you custom made it? I found one from panther and was wondering if this would work. Thanks, Jean
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Post by Capt’n Ron on Sept 26, 2019 18:34:02 GMT
Hi Jean, my kicker is the Yamaha T9.9XPH. I will admit, my kicker setup (mount) is way over engineered. It’s a custom mount my dealer installed, which did create an issue with depth in the water so I added the 5 inch extension from Bay Manufacturing (which is supported by the Yamaha warranty). If I were to do it again I would probably get a mount from Panther Marine products, which also enables the kicker to be lowered so you wouldn’t need the extension. I do keep my kicker attached year round, but that’s primarily due to the Garmin TR1 Gold autopilot I have installed which has hydraulic hoses and electronic wires hard connected to the kicker, so I can’t really take it off without a bit of work, although a couple years ago someone took it off pretty easily by just cutting my hydraulic and fuel lines and wires. . I had a lock on the kicker but they got through that pretty easily, so I’ve added a bunch more locks and 24 hour camera monitoring. Hope this helps. Cheers, Ron
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jb76
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Jeanneau Model: MF 795 (2018)
Yacht Name: Aldebaran
Home Port: Boat Lagoon Phuket
Country: Thailand
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Post by jb76 on Sept 27, 2019 3:01:40 GMT
Hi Ron, Thanks a lot for the reply and feedbacks. Very helpfull. Jean
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Post by ihsan on Dec 15, 2019 19:52:48 GMT
Hi Jeremy, I‘d say it depends on the conditions you will be using it. In calm waters with little to no current the 6hp would probably be sufficient, but in winds and/or stronger currents I know I have to kick up my 9.9 high thrust to keep on course. The other thing to consider is I had to get the long shaft and a 5 inch extension for my kicker to get the prop far enough in the water given how high the mounting bracket is above the water line. You might not have room to stow a long shaft kicker. Cheers, Ron
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Post by ihsan on Dec 15, 2019 19:56:07 GMT
Hi Jeremy, I‘d say it depends on the conditions you will be using it. In calm waters with little to no current the 6hp would probably be sufficient, but in winds and/or stronger currents I know I have to kick up my 9.9 high thrust to keep on course. The other thing to consider is I had to get the long shaft and a 5 inch extension for my kicker to get the prop far enough in the water given how high the mounting bracket is above the water line. You might not have room to stow a long shaft kicker. Cheers, Ron
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Post by ihsan on Dec 15, 2019 19:59:44 GMT
Hi Jeremy, I‘d say it depends on the conditions you will be using it. In calm waters with little to no current the 6hp would probably be sufficient, but in winds and/or stronger currents I know I have to kick up my 9.9 high thrust to keep on course. The other thing to consider is I had to get the long shaft and a 5 inch extension for my kicker to get the prop far enough in the water given how high the mounting bracket is above the water line. You might not have room to stow a long shaft kicker. Cheers, Ron
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Post by ihsan on Dec 15, 2019 20:30:10 GMT
I have recently installed a 6 hp to my 795 . It is permanently mounted on the boat not on the swim platform. I really copied another boat 755 which I found in the forum pictures. I had to alter my platform into a smaller size like in the 755 to open up space for this purpose. As Captain Ron said it is adequate in calm waters. An up and down moving mounting bracket does the trick. Bracked is Standart long shaft is enough . I could not install 9,9 because of limited space. My main idea was to use it in case of emergency and I did use it when somehow I lost my hydrolic oil due to a failing connection in the auto pilot. It was repaired under guarantee by the distributer.
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jb76
New Member
Posts: 8
Jeanneau Model: MF 795 (2018)
Yacht Name: Aldebaran
Home Port: Boat Lagoon Phuket
Country: Thailand
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Post by jb76 on Mar 13, 2020 8:03:28 GMT
did you find it? just for info i had 2 leaks from my MfF 795 - Wipers water tank - Shower at the back of the boat Hi everyone, I'm troubleshooting an issue on my 2017 MF 695 and was wondering if anyone has any ideas given the similarity of the boats and lack of an active 695 group. The issue is that I'm getting water in the side of the boat when under power near where the steering cables are run down the starboard side of the hull. I've owned the boat for a few months now and have ruled out rain leaks, washdown issues etc. It seems to only happen when the boat is under power and I believe it's coming up from the stern. Any guesses? Here are some details: - It never has any water show up when in it's slip or after a rain (all summer) - I haven't had water show up when idling around harbor. - After 5 min of running under power water shows up - I'm guessing it could be a leak in the depth finder transducer mount (above the water line, but maybe not when under power). - Any other ideas? I tried uploading a photo of what I'm talking about, but I couldn't get it to work. Thanks for any guidance! PS. I also fell victim to defective glass as well. After owning for two months the glass shattered in the sunlight while in it's slip!
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Post by ihsan on Mar 19, 2020 13:39:55 GMT
FYI I noticed that miabellaragazza stated that a future addition to their 795 would be a float switch on their bilge pump. I purchased a 2019 NC 795 and launched in late April. I put the boat in a marina slip after a short cruise and went back 30 hours later to find approx 16 inches of water in my bilge. After investigation I found out there was NO Automatic bilge pump on this boat. I was pretty upset to say the least because I had asked a technician at the dealership, before I took delivery of the boat, what I needed to do to have the bilge pump function automatically. I was told as long as the Main Cabin power switch was turned on, the bilge pump would function automatically. NOT TRUE !! The only way the bilge pump would turn on was with the manual bilge pump switch on the helm (with the main Cabin power switch also turned on). I would have never taken delivery of the boat without an automatic bilge pump. I had a float switch added to the bilge pump connected directly to a fused hot wire from the battery to fix the problem. I wondered if other NC 795 owners were aware of this situation ? My boat could have sunk if I hadn't gone to check on it. Rob
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Post by ihsan on Mar 19, 2020 13:52:06 GMT
I know long time passed since you posted regarding failing bilge pump and water collecting about 30 cms in your 2019 model 795. I wonder did you locate where that much amount of water came in from during your initial trial at sea? Best regards. There is still no automatic bilge pump delivered from the factory. Thanks in advance. Best regards.
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Post by fritz on Mar 27, 2020 5:08:56 GMT
"The only way the bilge pump would turn on was with the manual bilge pump switch" Still no automatic bilge on a 2020 NC 795.
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Post by timbray on Apr 1, 2020 6:05:48 GMT
Everyone I tell about the 795 not having an auto bilge pump looks at me like I'm crazy, says it must be there, I just can't see it.
And I agree with them.
Except for, whenever I open up and look down in the hull, there's just the tiniest trace of water there, condensation I'm pretty sure. after rainstorms. After washdowns. After bashing through heavy swells. Never seen any significant water in 11 months of ownership.
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Post by MalcolmP on Apr 4, 2020 9:19:49 GMT
This Merry Fisher 795 thread has been wonderful and contains a lot of valuable information, plus lots of welcomes and introductions by new and prospective MF 795 owners.
However its success has also resulted in it becoming rather long and unwieldy, requiring a lot of trawling back and forth to find specific information.
So going forward please avoid replying to this thread if possible, but rather start a new thread that also has something specific mentioned in the title as well as Merry Fisher 795
Also remember to use the search function, which can often find a wealth of additional information, including on the sister NC 795 Sport (as the Merry Fisher 795 is known in North America)
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Post by ihsan on Apr 4, 2020 12:20:30 GMT
This is in reply to a post by paulmcc dated Feb 11, 2017 regarding his port side window leak. My 2020 795 has the same problem. Water drops to the cushion above the fridge from the window like his. There is a smell from the cushion and carpet soaked in water. It seems they dont care what the guarantee expenses cost to them. But we pay with valuable time. I have also got water leak from the chain locker section to the bow thruster section which, after two unsuccesful attempts by the distributor, still awaits repair causing already loss of two sunny weekends to me. I really wonder what the quality section in France does all these years.
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Rob
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Jeanneau Model: NC 795
Home Port: Sassafras River, MD
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Post by Rob on May 1, 2020 0:36:18 GMT
I know long time passed since you posted regarding failing bilge pump and water collecting about 30 cms in your 2019 model 795. I wonder did you locate where that much amount of water came in from during your initial trial at sea? Best regards. There is still no automatic bilge pump delivered from the factory. Thanks in advance. Best regards.
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Rob
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Jeanneau Model: NC 795
Home Port: Sassafras River, MD
Country: USA
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Post by Rob on May 1, 2020 0:38:49 GMT
Ihsan, Sorry it took so long for me to respond back to you to answer your question about the leak I had on my 2019 NC 795. The leak was caused by the technician at the dealership. When he installed my Garmin chart-plotter and transducer, the technician installed the transducer wire through the stern below the waterline. He caulked the hole and wire, but used no approved feed-through for the wire if there is such a thing, and it leaked. I had them remove the wire, repair the hole/haul to like new, and move the wire feed-through up to where the motor wires and hydraulic lines go through in the walk-around step. They also installed a float switch right near the bilge pump with a fused hot wire connected directly to the battery. In response to timbray's comments, I can say without a doubt that my NC 795 didn't have an automatic bilge pump switch and I couldn't believe it either. I would have never excepted delivery of the boat without one. I have also never seen a drop of water in my bilge, the drains around the cockpit work great. This is the switch they put in that I can reach down and lift the float lever to verify operation. www.westmarine.com/buy/rule-industries--rule-a-matic-bilge-pump-switch--8247082?recordNum=1Rob
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Post by ihsan on May 3, 2020 0:01:45 GMT
Rob, thanks for the information. Installing a float switch by direct battery connection sounds wise. Luckly I have got the sounder installed without a hole in the hull..Only you see the wire climbing up. Water coming from my window and chain locker section await somebody from the dealer to come and fix them. In the mean time I have machine washed the back seat cover and the carpet twice for the bad odour to disappear. The inner foam of the seat was handwashed in the tub thoroughly too.
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