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Post by hoppy on Jan 10, 2016 10:39:10 GMT
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Post by vasko on Jan 10, 2016 11:53:59 GMT
+1 Brrrrrr
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Post by On y va on Jan 10, 2016 12:06:21 GMT
Respect!
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 10, 2016 12:23:29 GMT
Thx Hoppy for sharing - impressive - but I know why I am heading south....
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georgecasa
Junior Member
Posts: 24 
Jeanneau Model: 1989 voyage 12.5
Home Port: North Port
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Post by georgecasa on Jan 10, 2016 21:01:04 GMT
Outstanding!
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Post by On y va on Jan 10, 2016 22:12:07 GMT
It´s a shame there is hardly any info on what they added/changed to the boat to make it "Spitsbergen ready" so to speak.
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Post by hoppy on Jan 10, 2016 22:55:39 GMT
I see they are not afraid to venture into the ice fields
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Post by hoppy on Jan 10, 2016 23:08:18 GMT
It´s a shame there is hardly any info on what they added/changed to the boat to make it "Spitsbergen ready" so to speak. Yep... I see they have added an inner forestay. None of the press articles seem to show interest in the boat. Maybe the upcoming cruising world article might touch on the topic or perhaps not. |
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Post by On y va on Jan 11, 2016 16:31:17 GMT
I read that they have insulated the hull. Something I started doing too, first from floor level up to the first stringer (so plus and minus 30cm of the waterline). The biggest problem is the floor itself. Haven´t found a good solution for that yet.
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 11, 2016 17:01:55 GMT
Their blog doesn't seem to (perhaps for good reason...) explain what happened to their previous SF37 Memento Mori - which they had already sailed successfully to Greenland and back. They went to Shetland in her but then the story seems to just finish - hopefully not in a calamity?
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Post by On y va on Jan 15, 2016 20:01:55 GMT
I had some email contact with the guy from the Jeanneau SF37 "Barba". For whoever is interested, here is what I asked him, and his reply:
My email to Andreas: I have a Sun Odyssey 40, so near enough the same boat, which I am preparing for extended voyaging, hopefully including Patagonia. Can I ask what you have done to prepare the Barba for the cold? I read that the hull has been insulated. How and with what did you do this? And have u changed the main hatches? I am thinking of turning them around, so they open to the stern, not the bow. And what sort of heating do you have on board? And last but not least, how many Ah´s in batteries do you have?
Maybe, if you have time one day, you can add something about the boat on your page, as I know a lot of people would be interested to find out how you have changed Barba to make her suitable for all this.
Reply from Andreas: Busy times. I´ll try to get a blog post out as requested in the next couple of months.
Your boat will do for a couple of months in arctic climate. It´s not ideal, but it works, and the best boat is as always the boat you have. If you plan on staying for a longer time, I would consider a different boat .
I have been in temperatures down to -20 C without difficulties. A few hints of advice.
Hatches. You keep them closed most of the time, so I would not bother changing the opening. I use a plexiglass attached with welcro inside, to get a layer of insulation. Works very well.
Heating. I only have on webasto 3900. I would recommend a 5 kw on your boat. Don´t go bigger, makes it run at suboptimal rate, which is not good. Follow the manual when you install it (mine is port side, in the small compartment just behind the storage hatch). Keep the webasto running all the time to keep condensation at bay. Condensation is your main concern. Consider an extra webasto heater as backup. Critical component. Ensure that the room where the webasto sits is wented, to avoid a vacuum.
Off course a diesel stowe is ideal due to reliability, but I assume you dont want to do much alternations to your boat.
Mast. Important to insulate. I have used a hull insulating material. (Like a sleeping mattress with glue underneath).
Cheap sleeping mattresses under all beds, as well as on the side of the hull in the aft bedroom compartments.
I use the bow for storage only. Impossible to keep warm, as it´s surrounded by water, far from engine and heater.
Install a heater that draws heat from your engine cooling water. Mine is installed next to the warm water tank next to the mast.
I have installed thin insulting mats in some of the cupboard, as well as behind the couch where you typically have your library.
The main heat loss is through the gangway. Difficult to insulate though..
In short the more insulation you add the better. You could use hull insulation on all available parts of the hull as well as under the floor..
You need to access how much work/money you want to put into it, and also ensure that you dont modify it in a way that makes it difficult to sell it later on.
Batteries, I have 90ah. Too little. Working on a sponsorship deal to test out lithium batteries with twice that capacity.
Back to sailing business here. Out of range for the next couple of weeks.
Best of luck,
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Post by MalcolmP on Jan 17, 2016 11:04:32 GMT
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Post by On y va on Jan 17, 2016 11:43:12 GMT
Cool photo Malcolm! literally too.
What amazes me, that they only have one 90Ah service battery!! Andreas does say it is not enough, but I have 3x that and still think it is not enough!!! I really want to get to 400Ah, but that means moving the engine starter battery....so maybe not.
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Post by hoppy on Jan 17, 2016 22:03:57 GMT
What amazes me, that they only have one 90Ah service battery!! Andreas does say it is not enough, but I have 3x that and still think it is not enough!!! I really want to get to 400Ah, but that means moving the engine starter battery....so maybe not. I have 4x110ah house now, would like more also. I guess they must run their motor a lot an take advantage of the heater connected to the coolant |
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Post by vasko on Jan 17, 2016 23:18:35 GMT
put LiFePo4 400ah really big difference as charging really fast from shore or engine... but make sure that you have low voltage cut off and hi-voltage cut off to make sure if charger\alternator fails you don't ruin the batteries ... with 50 to 100amps charger is perfect for 400ah LiFePo4 bank but for this guy in the cold LiFePo4 are not good as charging under 0 degrees is not working\ruining the batteries... www.ev-power.eu/Winston-40Ah-200Ah/WB-LYP400AHA-LiFeYPO4-3-2V-400Ah.htmlif you are worried about cell equalization - the easiest way is to make sure that the last 0.2v charging are done with small power e.g. <0.02c wich for 400ah is max 8amps |
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Post by hoppy on May 6, 2016 16:24:26 GMT
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Post by MalcolmP on Oct 9, 2016 7:39:24 GMT
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Post by MalcolmP on Oct 17, 2016 12:00:46 GMT
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