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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 17:43:59 GMT
This weekend I installed an NMEA2WIFi router from Comar on my boat. Our RC435 is outdated and not able to display AIS data. So instead of investing in a plotter I want to use the iPad. If you compare Navionics charts from iTunes with the Gold versions for the plotter then it is worth investing in nmea 2 wifi.
Now the next thing is to select a proper working app combining charts with an AIS overlay. I found out that the Navionics charts won't do the job with the Navionics app, but by using iNavX there is the possibility to have Navionics charts with AIS overlay and instrument data.
Before I purchase this app I want to know if any of you have experiences with other apps, perhaps better or with even cheaper charts or with a possibility to have a combined upgrade for the RC435 as well or the possibility to run the app on iPad and iPhone simultanious.
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Post by puravida35 on Feb 3, 2014 20:06:01 GMT
I recently started using iNavx recently as a an alternative/backup to our Raymarine plotter. I have not interfaced it with a NMEA2WIFi router yet. Even without NMEA2WIFi, the app can use the iPad data connection to retrieve and display AIS info (will not transmit, only display other vessels within range of supported AIS stations). That is a free 3rd party web service that seems to be available in a beta or test mode, so not sure of it's future availability. It's my understanding that the iPad and iPhone versions require separate chart purchases (different formats) if you want to use navionics charts, but you can still use the freely available NOAA raster charts on either version.
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Post by bikerwookie on Feb 4, 2014 19:40:46 GMT
I use inavx with an iPad and wifi ais. It all works great and displays targets a lot better than our simrad nss at the helm. It does tend to need the wifi link reactivating (5 seconds) if the display lock is not disabled.
Only other option is seaiq that I know of. It also works well but I only use that for commercial shipping utilising the seaiq pilot version.
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Post by sailbleu on Feb 5, 2014 7:51:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 17:30:57 GMT
So it seems that iNavX is commonly used and suits my requested functionality. Apparantly there aren't that many alternatives.
I think I will do the purchase this week then I can test it this weekend with the NMEA2WIFI.
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Post by sailbleu on Feb 5, 2014 18:03:51 GMT
So it seems that iNavX is commonly used and suits my requested functionality. Apparantly there aren't that many alternatives. I think I will do the purchase this week then I can test it this weekend with the NMEA2WIFI. Please elaborate on your findings as I plan to buy in april . Regards |
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Post by super g on Feb 8, 2014 8:55:26 GMT
I intalled a vYacht wifi repeater a few months ago and very happy. It's permanently wired in with the instruments. It will take two nmea feeds. For £85 was good value. It works fine with inavx and I, particularly like how the software scales the vessels. However I'm mainly using it to repeat instruments such as depth and SOW, it's cheaper to use a spare kindle fire than buy a set of instruments at the chart table. Its quite funny when at sea and crew get al excited when they notice they have a wifi signal so far offshore. |
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Post by sailbleu on Feb 8, 2014 11:14:54 GMT
85 pounds ??
What is the exact make clouds ?
Wow , must check it out.But propbably no multiplexer ?
I would also like to connect AIS data to laptop ( USB)and openCPN , spread GPS to all applications including DSC VHF , and of course wifi to the ipad.
Regards
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Post by super g on Feb 8, 2014 14:28:57 GMT
85 pounds ?? What is the exact make clouds ? Wow , must check it out.But propbably no multiplexer ? I would also like to connect AIS data to laptop ( USB)and openCPN , spread GPS to all applications including DSC VHF , and of course wifi to the ipad. Regards The make is vyacht just google it. It will multiplex two feeds into one wifi. Not sure you really need a multiplexor for what you are doing, I don't and have one and have the raymarine gps feeding all sorts , including a laptop via USB, dsc radio, auto pilot, and the wifi router. I've actually taken the output from my c90w as that can output the most nmea data. Cheers. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2014 18:00:49 GMT
Today I continued testing but the result was not so good. I am strucling with the AIS gps cable. Probably I need new connectors because the crimping tool didn't do the job that good. I will go for soldering types now. Both with yacht iAIS as the iNavX i am fiddling with the iPad internal gps sensor. When I disable the iPad gps the software won't start the TCP/IP connection. Then when I enable it, it seems to work alllthough the instrument display shows the location from the internal gps instead of the nmea gps data. I receive a lot of AIS data from within a couple of miles. This is rather strange since Rotterdam port is over 10 miles away.
So somehow it is not working correct and without a proper chart the testing is even more dificult since the world chart does not zoom in that much. First thing to do is to fix the gps cable to the AIS.
2 iNavX questions:
Does the iPad internal gps has to be connected to iNavX or other similar apps like iAIS?
Any idea why the app doesn't show the nmea data like wind. Is it because the boat is not moving and that it enables a kind of silent mode?
To be continued.....
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Post by super g on Feb 10, 2014 0:23:59 GMT
Today I continued testing but the result was not so good. I am strucling with the AIS gps cable. Probably I need new connectors because the crimping tool didn't do the job that good. I will go for soldering types now. Both with yacht iAIS as the iNavX i am fiddling with the iPad internal gps sensor. When I disable the iPad gps the software won't start the TCP/IP connection. Then when I enable it, it seems to work alllthough the instrument display shows the location from the internal gps instead of the nmea gps data. I receive a lot of AIS data from within a couple of miles. This is rather strange since Rotterdam port is over 10 miles away. So somehow it is not working correct and without a proper chart the testing is even more dificult since the world chart does not zoom in that much. First thing to do is to fix the gps cable to the AIS. 2 iNavX questions: Does the iPad internal gps has to be connected to iNavX or other similar apps like iAIS? Any idea why the app doesn't show the nmea data like wind. Is it because the boat is not moving and that it enables a kind of silent mode? To be continued..... I found some iPad apps will capture/log nmea data, so you can see what is being output to it. You can do similar with a laptop for a wired serial/USB connection. I found ais a pain to test as you need available signals, and even then can take a few minutes to appear. I've found that the raymarine plotter doesn't output everything I would like, it has some odd omissions which would require a sea talk/ nmea bridge to obtain. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 18:46:51 GMT
It would be interesting for me to test that nmea logging app. What is the name of that app?
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Post by super g on Feb 13, 2014 22:17:04 GMT
It would be interesting for me to test that nmea logging app. What is the name of that app? I use 'boat instruments' by tucabo and that has a screen to monitor the nmea sentences. INmea Logger looks like a specific tool though I haven't used it myself. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 17:16:05 GMT
Perhaps I will try this app. Unfortunately it's not for free, so first some more testing with iNavX.
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Post by bikerwookie on Feb 14, 2014 22:13:25 GMT
Marien
I don't think inavx needs the gps as it can take it from the nmea over wifi. I only have used it on a gps ipad so cannot confirm this.
Sound like you are not getting the nmea coming through.
From memory when on the chart view click the i icon in the grey bar at the left hand side to get the instrument menu click on tcp/ip and make sure the link is turned on and the settings in there are correct.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 18:43:14 GMT
Will do some more testing next weekend. This weekend we have a storm here in Holland. I sent a couple of e-mails to iNavX but no answers so far. I would expect some more support taking this app price into account.
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Post by gowell101 on Feb 18, 2014 10:25:01 GMT
Maybe of interest to some that race? Just fitted a Madman WiFi bridge, sends NMEA info to my iRegatta app. Or any WiFi device. Easy to intsall, I put it inside cockpit table which is next to C80 and DC power. iRegatta has lots of great features, distance to line and time to line. Also next mark heading and distance, etc. Polars can be imported as well. I have no ties with Madman, just a good product from Aus. www.madmanmarine.com/  Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 16:01:46 GMT
Today I fixed the AIS. It is working fine now. Then I continued testing the wifi connection. What I still don't understand is that with iNavX but also with iAis when I make the wifi connection it won't show the instrument data. I do get the AIS data on iNavX but no other data over wifi. The location data is coming from the iPad own location services.
Furthermore no response on my questions towards iNavX. It might be bad service but I begin to suspect their website which is not fit for the iPad. I will try to contact them from a normal computer now.
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Post by super g on Mar 3, 2014 21:37:22 GMT
Today I fixed the AIS. It is working fine now. Then I continued testing the wifi connection. What I still don't understand is that with iNavX but also with iAis when I make the wifi connection it won't show the instrument data. I do get the AIS data on iNavX but no other data over wifi. The location data is coming from the iPad own location services. Furthermore no response on my questions towards iNavX. It might be bad service but I begin to suspect their website which is not fit for the iPad. I will try to contact them from a normal computer now. I'd work through each component logically.,firstly have you tried takin the feed that goes into the wifi router and checking sentences received? You can add a serial plug and connect to a laptop. Once you've confirmed the sentences are being passed to the router are all present and correct, check the baud rates that the router port is set at (32k), matches what you sender is transmitting at. Have you gone into ipad settings and selected the router in wifi settings and successfully logged in? If all that looks good then I'm sure inavx has a nmea log screen that shows sentences received from wifi. I found it quite difficult to find the required screens. Hope this helps. |
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Post by super g on Mar 3, 2014 21:43:44 GMT
Today I fixed the AIS. It is working fine now. Then I continued testing the wifi connection. What I still don't understand is that with iNavX but also with iAis when I make the wifi connection it won't show the instrument data. I do get the AIS data on iNavX but no other data over wifi. The location data is coming from the iPad own location services. Furthermore no response on my questions towards iNavX. It might be bad service but I begin to suspect their website which is not fit for the iPad. I will try to contact them from a normal computer now. I'd work through each component logically.,firstly have you tried takin the feed that goes into the wifi router and checking sentences received? You can add a serial plug and connect to a laptop. Once you've confirmed the sentences are being passed to the router are all present and correct, check the baud rates that the router port is set at (32k), matches what you sender is transmitting at. Have you gone into ipad settings and selected the router in wifi settings and successfully logged in? If all that looks good then I'm sure inavx has a nmea log screen that shows sentences received from wifi. I found it quite difficult to find the required screens. Hope this helps. Sorry it is 38k baud not 32k. I notice the nmea2wifi already has a wired nmea output, so I'd connect a laptop up to that. If easier I think most chartplotters well capture nmea logs so use that instead. |
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 13, 2014 7:25:31 GMT
I am now the proud owner of inavx on my ipad3.
Works great , and combined with a wifi- multiplexer it can show gps position and AIS data on the charts.
I would like to add the gribfiles so they can be used in an overlay .
Could anyone recommend what app I should be using , or maybe there other weather apps that arte also interesting to use , but its just that I was familiar with gribs on my openCPN laptop application. Has to be compatible with inavx of course.
Suggestions anyone ?
Thanks
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 13, 2014 7:54:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 18:15:50 GMT
Are you using the positioning service of the iPad or via the NMEA. Now the boat is ready for the season I continue the testing on our configuration. Which NMEA2WIFI device did you purchase?
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Post by sailbleu on Apr 27, 2014 16:11:17 GMT
Marien,
please see my post feb 5 for the wifi-multiplexer.
I'm not using the internal gps as this takes too much power .
My ipad is connected through wifi (and multiplexer) straight to an AIS transponder.
Also bought an ipad > VGA converter that allows me to relay the inavx charts on a waterproof cockpit display.
Regards
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 21:28:46 GMT
The iNavx is working fine now. I have all the NMEA data on the iPad. Almost starting the vacation I started testing the autopilot control via iNavx. The iNavx manual is bad, not explaining well all the steps you have to take. As far as I can imagin I select a waypoint on iNavx and press GoTo. Then I press auto on the Raymarine autopilot followed by track. Then the autopilot displays No Data. So I'm doing something wrong, but what.
When using the old-school RC435 I get no autopilot error, so that part of the system is working fine.
Is there somebody with more iNavx experience?
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