Tasmanian Jeanneau Owners

[boatsalestasmania]

A forum for Tassie Jeanneau Owners to discuss life in the greatest cruising waters on Earth!

[MalcolmP]

Mar 5, 2012 23:30:52 GMT boatsalestasmania said:

A forum for Tassie Jeanneau Owners to discuss life in the greatest cruising waters on Earth!

I see that you have a blog at: blog.boatsalestas.com.au/

If you would like a regional section in this forum just for Tasmania (or perhaps one for Aus and Tas) I can set up a heading, just let me know, possibly it would have more activity than starting an entirely new separate forum

You are right about your fantastic coastline, I remember many years ago traveling around the coast - have to admit in a camper not a boat - and Port Arthur, St Marys, Hells gate are all still lodged in my mind

[chaika]

We just bought a 2010 SO36i and are looking forward to cruising Tassie's magnificent waters.

This is a great forum for tips and fixes - hopefully we won't need too many of the latter!

[boatsalestasmania]

Hi Webcrew,

An Australian specific section would be fantastic. I would have the rest of the dealers around the country to get involved as well.

Thanks for that!

[boatsalestasmania]

Welcome Chaika! It was great to see you at the Tasmanian Jeanneau Rally 2012. We will be posting photos of the Rally soon.

[MalcolmP]

Mar 22, 2012 0:27:34 GMT boatsalestasmania said:

Hi Webcrew,

An Australian specific section would be fantastic. I would have the rest of the dealers around the country to get involved as well.

Thanks for that!

All set up as you may now have seen seen. I will also PM you

[boatsalestasmania]

The Sanctuary Cove Boat Show – 24th to 27th of May, 2012.

Boat Sales Tasmania is pleased to announce we are co-hosting the largest display at the Show, featuring both Jeanneau Power & Sail plus Prestige Motoryachts.

Jeanneau Power & Prestige Motoryachts on display:
• PRESTIGE 500 Fly – European Powerboat of the Year 2012
• PRESTIGE 440 Sports
• JEANNEAU NC9
• JEANNEAU LEADER 10
• JEANNEAU CAP CAMARAT 8.5 CENTRE CONSOLE

In addition, the following sailboats will be on display:
• JEANNEAU SUN ODYSSEY 44 Deck Saloon – New Model
• JEANNEAU SUN ODYSSEY 379 – Cruising World Boat of the Year 2012
• JEANNEAU SUN ODYSSEY 409 – European Yacht of the Year 2011
• JEANNEAU SUN ODYSSEY 439

If you would like more information or a complimentary ticket and an obligation free viewing, please contact us.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Regards,
Paul Nanscawen
& The Boat Sales Tasmania Team
0362248288
0418385866

[boatsalestasmania]

Make a note in your diaries for this years SYDNEY INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW running from Thursday August 2nd to Monday 6th.

We will have 9 Jeanneau & Prestige yachts on display including the Australian debut of the new Sun Odyssey 509, the new 44 Deck-Saloon as well as the ever popular Sun Odyssey 439, Cruising World Magazine 2012 “Cruising Yacht of the Year” Sun Odyssey 379 along with the Sun Odyssey 33i which is available in swing-keel & shoal draft versions. Jeanneau’s powerboat division will be well represented with two Jeanneau Power models being the Leader 9 & NC 9 along with the Prestige 500 flybridge (European Powerboat of the Year 2012) & the Prestige 500 Sport.

[Xantia]

Xantia, our Jeanneau 42DS, is now in summer mode and less likely to be out cruising than in winter, when we were on the water more than we were at home. However, if anyone is out and sees us, give us a call or come over. We are often in the D'Entrecasteau Channel somewhere, and even if we are in the Kettering marina would lake to see you.

We are going to Port Davey in March, depending on weather, so if that suits you get in touch as we'd like some company. Other than that, I feel the need to catch some fish to restock the freezer and any suggestions are welcome. There are flathead around the Channel and kingies off Adventure Bay, but we usually settle for Atlantic salmon.

Hope to see you out there.

Ian Fletcher

[chaika]

Hey Ian,

We might be interested in PD, depending on timing etc. Were you aware that the RYCT's circumnavigation was planning to descend on Port Davey/Bathurst Harbour 10-14March? Could be crowded then!

Alex & Jackie

[Xantia]

Hello everyone

Russ Middleton sent out an email on the Yanmar SD50 gearbox clutch problem.

I have done some research on it and how to avoid it. Here is a version of an article I was writing.

We were walking through the slipyard the other day and met a bloke pulling out two nearly new Yanmar 54 HP diesels with SD50 saildrives from his catamaran. He was replacing them with Yanmar shaft drives. It turns out that SD50 saildrives can need a lot of maintenance, depending on how they are used. Our Jeanneau uses the same saildrive so more research was needed.

The SD20 saildrive used on smaller Yanmar engines uses a dog clutch and is rugged and reliable. The SD50 uses a cone clutch and is also reliable provided you follow the manufacturer’s instructions. However, that is not always the way you want to use the engine. First, here is my theory.

The cone clutch gives beautifully smooth gear changes, because it relies on the friction between an inside and an outside cone. The torque from the engine tends to drive the cones together, so the harder you drive it, the better it works. The rub is that if you have a lightweight catamaran and two 54HP engines, everything is very lightly loaded, so the engine torque doesn’t engage the clutch hard enough.

Now it gets worse if you motorsail. There is even less torque coming from the engine and the propeller can even be driving the gearbox rather than taking the engine power. Add a following sea to that and the load on the clutch can be varying wildly, even going negative. The clutch slips, wears, and starts making horrible noises, needing premature maintenance. Lapping the clutch to solve the problem is fairly straightforward and doesn’t require slipping the boat, but why spend the time and money if you don’t have to.

That cat is an extreme case, but any boat could suffer the problem. Follow the manufacturer’s instructions and go a bit further is my advice.

Never engage the gearbox when you are sailing. Just put up with the propeller rumble and whine. After all, the louder it is, the faster you are going.

Avoid motorsailing when there is nearly as much power from the sails as from the engine. My rule is that we don’t motorsail at less than seven knots and the engine goes off if we can make three knots under sail. If the wind is coming in puffs, the three knots is on the peaks of the wind, not the lulls.

Don’t motor slowly with a big following sea. The seven knot rule applies.

Don’t travel slowly under engine any more than necessary. By slowly I mean less than 1500 rpm. Of course this only applies to passage making, not berthing or other maneuvers.

[MalcolmP]

Nov 19, 2012 21:30:09 GMT Xantia said:

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That cat is an extreme case, but any boat could suffer the problem. Follow the manufacturer’s instructions and go a bit further is my advice.

Never engage the gearbox when you are sailing. Just put up with the propeller rumble and whine. After all, the louder it is, the faster you are going.

Hi Ian

Thanks for raising this important issue. As it will be of interest to all owners I have started a new thread at:
jeanneau.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=eq&action=display&thread=2372

[Xantia]

Hi Everyone,

If you are heading down the d'Entrecasteaux Channel over the New Year period don't forget your fishing rods. There are plenty of good size flathead in Barnes Bay and other parts of the Channel. Try in about 10m of water off the little bays. Otherwise go where the tinnies are in the Channel. I was in the dinghy in Quarantine today fishing for flathead with soft plastics, getting plenty of nibbles but no strike. I suspected crabs but managed to entice the culprits up to where I could see them. Squid, and lots of them, but I didn't have a jig and after getting one from the boat I couldn't find them again. The moral is to take a squid jig as well when chasing flatties.

Doing the fishing from a dinghy is a good idea if you don't like cleaning your boat. Squid ink comes off plastic easily with a scrub and plenty of salt water but I don't want to try it on the teak.

There are also a few escaped Atlantic salmon close inshore if you have a gillnet or are a dab hand with a fly rod.

I won't take any flathead from the duckpond or other poorly flushed areas. There are already brown sausages with white streamers floating around. When will Tasmanians learn to install holding tanks and use them?

Have a happy and safe festive season and for goodness sakes, avoid taking care; a calculated risk is much more fun.

See you out here,

Ian

[leecondell]

Look out for Pieter Van Der Meere from Sydney currently cruising the Tassie East coast on his 42DS "Syrah".

[Xantia]

Hi or maybe ho ho to you all,

I wrote on this matter some time ago but am only now trying to publish it. Can anyone who reads it please consider letting me know how useful or wrong it is.

By the way, has anyone worked out a way to clean large fish on a Jeanneau sailboat. It takes me so much time cleaning up after catching an Atlantic salmon or tuna.

Cheers

Ian

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[rene460]

Hi Xantia, re digital TV
Our experience is in a fringe area, the coat hanger idea definitely does not work with weak signals. Hard to tell how far we are from a transmitter as obviously repeaters on slightly different frequencies are used. Our favourite spots only 15 nm apart require retuning when we move from one to the other. Obviously different towers, different frequencies. However our powered antenna on top of the Bimini but not shading the solar panel seems to work. Cheaper variants do not. Have not seen the diversity type, but at 2 m spacing it seems too big for our SO 30i. We have 12 V digital TV.
Interference has come from iPad etc chargers, solution is to locate them further from the TV. Some LED's interfere with FM radio.
Car radios etc have a yellow wire in addition to 12 V red wire. It should be connected with only a small fuse to the battery even when all else is isolated. Maintains tuner memory only. Bigger problem is what to do about the bilge pump!
Fringe area radio more sensitive to interference than digital TV. Definitely need a 3m whip aerial in the push pit rail, not the little powered internal aerial supplied, and preferably a better radio for fringe area reception.
That is our experience, I hope that it helps you.
Rene460

[Xantia]

Thanks Rene

The diversity antennas work really well on either a targa bar or on the spreaders. The spacing is not critical. Thanks for your other comments, especially about the yellow wire on the car radio. I have always built my own filters but you can probably get one from Jaycar or Altronics to fit on your bilge pump. Even if it's not waterproof it needs to be close to the pump. You could encase it in wax, silicone or even epoxy.

In SE Tas we mostly use the main VHF services from Mt Wellington. In some places only analog TV is available on UHF but that will soon change. There are several sources on the web to find the location of transmitters near you. Some are easier to use than others.

Good comments on radio, especially about the rubbish antenna the boat comes with. There is another thread on this site about this too.

Cheers

Ian

[entourage]

Entourage is currently at Mackay in Qld and we will be starting for home in October. Already have crew for the legs to Sydney but have space for more crew for the Sydney to Hobart section. Anticipate leaving Sydney on 24th October and depending on weather arriving in Hobart a week later. Let me know if you want to join in this trip. Should call in to Bermagui and perhaps Flinders along the way.
Lyle 0419494350

[Xantia]

Hi everyone

Well winter is over and you will be thinking of getting out on the water. For us, of course, it's the opposite; we're not looking forward to the spring winds. The last two weeks of winter were perfect, except for the swell which made overnighting in the Deep Hole Southport a rolly affair. If anyone sees Xantia on the water this season come over and say hi please.

Ian and Wendy

[zofiasailing]

Hi Xantia
Agree that the worst of winter seems to have passed. We'll look out for you. Currently in Portland but will reach the north coast of Tassie by early Nov. Being lifted in Kermandie in Dec. Xmas in Hobart and summer exploring your wonderful east coast. Where are you based? Any advice on 'must visit' lists appreciated.   Equally appreciative of any local knowledge re tricky parts. We are studying the cruising guides but every bit helps.
Brian and Eva
SV Zofia 42SODS

[dralyagmas]

must see spots and tricky parts would be appreciated by many so could you post them on the public forum.

I have Tassie on the wish list for the next few years so I am starting to think of starting to plan

[zofiasailing]

We've finally made it to Tassie! So far visited King Island, Three Hummock Island, Stanley, Wynyard, Devonport and Low Head Pilot Station. Currently hiding out deeper into Tamar River. Apart from the obvious, that it's all stunning, the north coast (or Bass Strait coast) is incredibly tidal and this can have a serious effect on the sea state. Banks Strait can ONLY be negotiated West to East and East to West with the tide.

[zofiasailing]

Hi Xantia
We've made it to Port Arthur and hope to reach Hobart by weeks end. Really looking forward to a summer cruising down here and did notice a lot of Jeanneau's at Tamar YC. It's been a lonely spring across the top of Tassie and down the East coast. We hope for some company soon. Can only think that we'll find 'everyone' around Hobart. We're getting lifted at the Royal in 2 weeks. Any tips would be welcome.
SV Zofia

[Xantia]

Hi Zofia

Sorry, I haven't looked at this for months it seems. Was that you on the wave attenuator at Kettering on Monday? I saw a 42 from our berth but it's a long way around and it was gone pretty quickly so I missed it. we hauled out on Tuesday so I was busy. I'll give you a call on 16 next time we are out which may be soon as the weather will improve as soon as the kids go back to school.

Cheers

Ian

[Xantia]

Hi dralyagmas,

I must be becoming more and more lazy for I didn't notice your request for info. First of all, get a copy of the Tasmanian Anchorage Guide and of Cruising Southern tasmania. Our idea of perfect weather for boating is obviously different to others, as you can see a couple of posts above. We think the best weather starts at the end of January and ends towards the end of June. Then the roaring forties are whispering and the summer sea breezes aren't so annoying. Of course we have a heater, but it's not hard to heat any boat. Spring and early summer are usually very windy, westerly and cold, but we still go out for at least you don't have an easterly sea breeze changing westerly on nightfall and slopping up the boat.

For those who want to know, Xantia draws 2.13 m so getting through the Denison Canal can be tricky. The shallowest point is in the leads just south of the canal, in Norfolk Bay, so you want to be there on Hobart high tide, whichever way you go. It's close enough to high water. Going north this is easy but heading south it's complicated by the need to have slack enough water at the Marion Narrows end. And if it is blowing from the northeast, as it often is, or there is a big swell, getting into the narrows can be dangerous and you'll need to be close to high tide there too. As they are a couple of hours apart, it may not be possible and we have considered anchoring at Dunalley and waiting for the next tide to transit the canal. Marion Narrows are deep but very very narrow and they shift so get the latest chartlet from the MAST website, and put someone on the bow or aloft. Blackman Bay is also shallow but only dangerously so as you enter the canal from the north side. Yes, both ends are a problem, not to mention the current in the canal. It's worth going through the canal but you do miss Pirates and Fortescue Bays and Port Arthur.

The Channel is our home water. We moved here to use it. Many of the good anchorages are rarely used, but you can find good shelter from any wind but see my notes about sea breezes. The most versatile are Quarantine Bay and Mickeys Bay. Both only cop a full southerly, which is rare and it doesn't take long to move to a good spot in such conditions. We never do the cruising thing and go to Recherche Bay and sit waiting for good weather to go to Port Davey. The Bureaus forecasts are so good these days, we go to Recherche the day before and just head off at dawn. Telstra Mobile internet coverage is usable almost everywhere in the Channel, so you can always get the forecast. If you go at night, sail with no motor, never ever. The south coast is always infested with craypot lines and you'll end up diving to clear the propeller in the dark. There are no other hazards normal prudence won't avoid.

If you want to stay in Hobart for free, Cornelian Bay is in easy walking distance, and has a bus. It cops the westerlies but the next bays upriver are OK. Anyway you won't drag. It's shallow and the mud is firm and toxic so it sticks to your anchor. Sometimes you can stay in the free berths right next to Elizabeth Pier, but the are busy in summer and guarded by council parking inspectors.

That's enough for one day. Seeya Ian