j57
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Post by j57 on May 29, 2011 23:34:04 GMT
Are there any Jeanneau 57 owners out there? Seriously considering that boat and would appreciate feedback from anyone who owns one!!
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Post by esmith on Jun 11, 2011 19:14:12 GMT
Bay Yacht Agency, Annapolis here. We have sold several and I would be happy to share with you how these owners chose to equip them. Also, to better explain our 5 star commissioning process which allows the owner a huge say in how his boat is customized for his particular needs. BYA is the oldest, largest Jeanneau dealer in N. America--We would be pleased to discuss this fabulous boat with you. We will have 2 57's here this summer, and already have a couple of 53's, several 50's and others as well.
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Post by Zanshin on Jun 12, 2011 3:02:50 GMT
One of those 2 Jeanneau 57 yachts going through Bay Yacht agency is going to be mine
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Post by blackcaiman on Jun 17, 2011 15:08:47 GMT
Congrats! Zanshin... Can't wait to see pictures, may even book a trip to the boat show! You will not be disappointed with Bay Yacht Agency and their contractors, they are all experts. If you have any questions regarding contractors and systems, send me a note
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gregs
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Post by gregs on Jul 4, 2011 8:09:13 GMT
I've spent a lot of time (and many miles) on the DS54 and the newer J57. Didn't much care for the old DS54 but the J57 is a different beast - v liveable, very solid and sails like a dream. She really is a delight.
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Post by Zanshin on Jul 5, 2011 6:40:41 GMT
I just got back from a factory tour yesterday and will select and post some pictures over the next couple of days. Not only did the weather play along but in addition to seeing the production process at Jeanneau I got to see my future "Zanshin" (hull #68) in the final stages of construction. The operation at Les Herbiers is very impressive and worth seeing. Now I am even more excited about picking up the J57 and taking her for a 1500NM test spin in November - down to the warm Caribbean waters.
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gregs
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Post by gregs on Jul 5, 2011 17:07:26 GMT
Great boat - you'll enjoy a lot. Did you go for the in mast furling main or a fully battened one?
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 5, 2011 17:56:16 GMT
I just got back from a factory tour yesterday and will select and post some pictures over the next couple of days. Not only did the weather play along but in addition to seeing the production process at Jeanneau I got to see my future "Zanshin" (hull #68) in the final stages of construction. The operation at Les Herbiers is very impressive and worth seeing. Now I am even more excited about picking up the J57 and taking her for a 1500NM test spin in November - down to the warm Caribbean waters. Just reading the Sail review from last year are you going for the 8'2" or the shallow 6'10" keel? Malcolm
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Post by Zanshin on Jul 5, 2011 18:21:59 GMT
Malcolm: I'm going for the deep keel - the Marianas trench of draft I'm editing the pictures (300 of them) for the best 40 or so and will post them later on tonight.
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j57
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Post by j57 on Jul 12, 2011 21:02:39 GMT
Hi Zanshin and all others J57 Lovers
I've been told 360 Docking will be available on 2012 J57's...I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on that!
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Post by Zanshin on Jul 13, 2011 6:40:21 GMT
I'd go for it - my only real stress moments aboard are when approaching and leaving docks.
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Post by tedp on Jul 13, 2011 8:18:29 GMT
Malcolm: I'm going for the deep keel - the Marianas trench of draft I'm editing the pictures (300 of them) for the best 40 or so and will post them later on tonight. If you do a lot of blue water sailing, a deep keel is best. Not like the tiny 5ft fin on my SO32. But then we're always sailing in shallow waters. I can imagine you're looking forward to your new boat. Regarding 360 degree docking, if you're sailing shorthanded in a boat that size I can imagine you like more control. Are you going to fit a bow thruster as well? Good luck, Ted
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Post by Zanshin on Jul 13, 2011 9:21:30 GMT
I have a bowthruster, but my model still has a standard shaft and I won't be getting the 360 degree docking (but I will be getting lots of fenders!). The shallow keel was never really an option for me, but with 8'3" draft I won't be going into Anegada in the BVI anymore.
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Post by tedp on Jul 13, 2011 11:01:02 GMT
Wish we were close to that kind of cruising ground! We would be under way the best part of two months to get anywhere even subtropical, like the Med or the Canary islands. On the other hand we don't have hurricanes during the season. Only a few summer gales - it's blowing another force 7-8 over here Nothing wrong with using fenders and spring lines, but I imagine a bow thruster is handy in a blow. You cannot stop a 57 footer by pushing off!
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Post by Zanshin on Jul 13, 2011 12:50:15 GMT
tedp - I'm in Germany now and the low has moved in here (but I'm a good 500Km from salt water in any case). I regularly docked and de-docked on the 49 footer alone, at first without a bowthruster but then I repaired it and life got a lot easier. I wonder how big the bowthruster needs to be for the Jeanneau 57 360 docking system; 20HP probably won't be sufficient to get those 27,000Kg moving sideways.
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Post by tedp on Jul 13, 2011 19:04:05 GMT
If you're in Germany now you should have an idea of the weather we have over here, only on the coast the wind is about two notches up. It's another of those wet summers I'm not sure about the power you need for a bow thruster as I never had one. The SO32 is the biggest boat I had and usually it can be managed without one, at only 4.5 tons empty! If I want to come alongside all on my own, I put a stern line ashore, belay and put the engine in forward gear to pull her alongside. Having a bow thruster would speed the process especially in a crosswind. I think the main factor isn't deadweight, but wind leverage up forward. The bow thruster should be able to move the bows sideways against the strongest crosswind you expect to encounter. I think there should be benchmark lists for you to choose a thruster from. They might have shown you one at the yard when you went to see the new boat. Sorry I couldn't give you better advice... Ted
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Post by Zanshin on Jul 13, 2011 19:24:41 GMT
the problem with the 360 docking is that the bowthruster needs to be be even stronger, since it has to work together with the aft propeller to make the boat move sideways. Thus the bowthruster needs to output the equivalent to an idling 140HP engine. normally 16HP are enough for a bowthruster, as it is deep and way forward, but for 360 docking I think that this needs to be redesigned.
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Post by MalcolmP on Jul 13, 2011 20:07:52 GMT
the problem with the 360 docking is that the bowthruster needs to be be even stronger, since it has to work together with the aft propeller to make the boat move sideways. Thus the bowthruster needs to output the equivalent to an idling 140HP engine. normally 16HP are enough for a bowthruster, as it is deep and way forward, but for 360 docking I think that this needs to be redesigned. I tried the 360 on a SO45DS - really impressed - the bow thruster does not work that hard as the saildrive pod is at 90 deg and (I think) nearer to the centre of effort so it does a lot of the work. Also most times you don't actually need to move at right angles - at anything less than 90 deg the pod will be doing most of the effort
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Post by Zanshin on Jul 24, 2011 12:09:51 GMT
I just added a page with the 3 side view schematics of the Jeanneau 57 with pictures that popup when you move the mouse over the appropriate part of the drawing. It is raining here and I can't wait to take delivery, plus I'm learning HTML. See www.sv-zanshin.com/Miscellaneous/Jeanneau57Clickable.php
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Post by MalcolmP on Aug 20, 2011 19:53:07 GMT
Ian Van Tuyl has just loaded an informative walk through on Angelina the new J57 with the champagne topsides that has just been commissioned in San Diego
worth watching
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Post by Zanshin on Aug 21, 2011 6:39:23 GMT
I'll give it a look when I have a fast internet connection, but Ian's videos tend to make me dizzy. I just heard that my delivery date moved back 10 days, but the boat will still be presentable by the Annapolis show and fully commissioned by November (I hope).
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j57
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Post by j57 on Aug 28, 2011 22:08:56 GMT
Hey Zanshin...I find Ian's Videos to be very cool and extremely informative!! Congrats again on your new 57. I believe I'll test drive a 2012 '57 w/ 360 in France in September or October and will keep you posted. Have fun!
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Post by MalcolmP on Oct 2, 2011 18:31:03 GMT
Any pictures yet? I saw from your twitter that she is now in Annapolis, but cant see any new images on your website
trust commissioning is going according to plan without too many hassles
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Post by Zanshin on Oct 3, 2011 11:21:03 GMT
Commissioning is going slowly, the Awlgrip took much longer than expected due to inclement weather. Now the boat is being prepped for the boat show in Annapolis but almost nothing has been installed that wasn't already in place at the factory (I have about 2 pages of extras that will get installed after the show, from a watermaker, washing machine [ahhh, finally clean sheets and T-Shirts] to the big 5000W inverter and the electronics suite). So far all I have are a couple of pictures that I posted at www.sv-zanshin.com/miscellaneous/zanshin-commissioning.php - I hope to add to that page soon!
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Post by Zanshin on Oct 3, 2011 20:07:33 GMT
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