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Post by sabmd42 on Sept 5, 2019 21:34:45 GMT
The windlass on my 1999 SO 45.2 is not working. It had been working intermittently before but now doesn't work at all. I can hear clicking when I push the up or down buttons, but the windlass motor does not come on. It is a Goiot, I think model 312. I suspect it is a bad relay or solenoid. There is a plastic box in the forward storage compartment (in front of the forward cabin), which I believe contains to eelectronic controls for the windlass. I cannot get the screws out to open it. They have some give but seem to be plastic, and I am afraid I will break them if I use too much force. Does anyone have any experience removing these screws and opening this box?
Steve
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Post by ForGrinsToo on Sept 6, 2019 17:26:57 GMT
The 36i breaker is mounted at the battery panel. I found that under load there was more than a 2V drop across the breaker, which was enough to prevent windlass operation. The relay/contactor was fine. Replaced the breaker (easy), problem solved.
Screws holding the cover on the 36i are stainless steel with flip-top plastic covers, and easily removed. I really can’t believe yours are plastic wood screws, but understand your concern.
Good luck,
Geoff
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Post by vasko on Sept 6, 2019 18:11:31 GMT
If it clicks most likely is the bearing or corroded something - in the windlass itself ...
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Post by ForGrinsToo on Sept 6, 2019 18:30:40 GMT
For me, there was a click followed by chatter. I could see that power to the contactor was > 12.7 until the control button was pushed. Batteries stayed at 12.7V. I had the Admiral working the remote while I crawled around with DMM probes. No load: less than 0.1 drop across the breaker. Contactor engaged, > 2V drop. Who would have thought?
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Post by ianpowolny on Sept 7, 2019 6:24:03 GMT
It could be the solenoid is defective. If you have some jump leads you could connect directly to the terminals by passing the solenoid. You should wear heavy gloves and safety specs. The jump leads get very hot very quickly and there may be some sparks. We had to do this for a couple of weeks a few years ago. Make sure you have communication signals. You can’t hear someone shouting from the deck. Winchmax ANCHOR WINCH SOLENOID 12V HEAVY DUTY WINDLASS GYPSY CAPSTAN MARINE WINCH 400A www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0713YX2FQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_mM0CDbAFYC4EB |
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Post by so36idavid on Sept 8, 2019 0:50:26 GMT
You can diagnose which part is broken by tracking down the voltage drop in the system. If it's not across the windlass then it's not the windlass. It sounds very much like the solenoid. Open the solenoid and inspect the contacts. They look like little brass colored blocks. If they're corroded or covered in soot then sand them clean.
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Post by panoramix on Sept 10, 2019 21:52:30 GMT
If it was working intermittently before, good chance that the brushes need to be replaced.
The carbon brushes will wear overtime and get shorter until they can no longer press enough on the collector of the rotor.
You will have to remove the back-cover of the motor in order to get access to the brushes.
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Post by sabmd42 on Sept 26, 2019 1:46:25 GMT
An update on my windlass problem.
I finally got the cover off the control unit. The plastic "screws" were not screws but were latches. By pushing and turning they popped out, and the cover came off. The control unit consists of 2 solenoids, one for up and one for down. I jumped the heavy wires to bypass each solenoid, and the windlass worked fine. I just had to avoid the sparks. This indicated that it is not the brushes in the windlass motor or the circuit breaker, but could be the switches, wiring or solenoids. I replaced the solenoids, and it worked perfectly. Surprising that both solenoids stopped working at the same time, but now all is well. Thanks for all the great suggestions.
Steve
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samree
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Jeanneau Model: 2003 Sun Odyssey 45.2
Yacht Name: Champagne
Home Port: San Diego, CA
Country: USA
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Post by samree on Feb 3, 2020 22:37:06 GMT
Thanks, I've got the same windlass issue. Intermittent and now nothing.
I can also hear a clicking when depressing the control buttons.
Where did you find the solenoids?
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Post by NZL50505 on Feb 4, 2020 4:57:32 GMT
I’ve had 3x windlasses exhibit exactly the same symptoms of intermittent working (especially under heavier loads) and the stopping altogether. In every instance the windlass motor had died and needing new brushes / rewinding. Or replacement (often not much more expensive).
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Post by sabmd42 on Feb 6, 2020 1:15:47 GMT
I just searched the internet and found solenoids that were rated for continuous use and the right size and orientation for the space. They are working great. I got it from Amazon. Here is the description, but I don't know if your arrangement is the same as mine:
Max 300A Continuous Duty Solenoid Relay Nickel-Plating For Golf Carts ,Winch, Marine In Rush 12VDC
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