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Post by stodge on Jun 24, 2019 17:19:00 GMT
I've been looking for a boat that's well suited to travel of longer distances around the Great Lakes. In addition to that I have a few creature comfort requirements. The boat that seems to fit the bill the best for what we want to do would be the NC series.
The NC 9 would be a good fit, but they don't appear to be made in the U.S. so supply of them seems a bit low (like almost 0).
The NC 895 is made in the U.S. so better supply, but since it has outboards there isn't a swim platform. I don't need the platform for the usual things (swimming, grilling etc.). But I really need to bring a dinghy along on longer trips. For that matter I need a dinghy on weekends on the lake around home as our dog won't do her business on the boat.
I saw a Boston Whaler this weekend that had a rack/platform over the outboard. I asked the owner and he said it was called an activity tower. It was like a wake tower but straight up instead of slanted. And it had a piece of Starboard on the top. My first thought was that I could put a 8 foot soft bottom dinghy upside down on something like that.
Short and long of it, I'm looking at dinghy options for the NC 895.
If anybody has found a way to accomplish this I'd be interested to hear how you did it.
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Post by lynnardm on Jun 24, 2019 20:54:13 GMT
Hello Stodge
Welcome to the forum. We have an NC895 and an Achilles inflatable dinghy. Most of the time it’s kept stowed in the cockpit locker. When Inflated I store it on the roof lashed to the roof handrails on each side. It’s small And lightweight (around 7 1/2 feet) so easy to get up and down. Of course this wouldn’t work with a heavy or non-inflatable and not with an engine.
Capt’n Lynn
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Post by westboating on Jun 28, 2019 4:04:11 GMT
Capt Lynn,
Can you post some dinghy pics? Does it roll up and fit in the bench or under the cockpit floor?
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Post by CruisingCascadia on Jun 2, 2020 20:47:00 GMT
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Post by captaintheo on Jul 12, 2020 19:57:13 GMT
I would love a permanent solution to as I don’t want to deflate it
Also I would like to pull the kids on the tube
Any suggestions?
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Post by westboating on Jul 12, 2020 22:57:17 GMT
I've seen that cut-water dinghy outboard lift. It's good idea, but it is heavy. A lighter version would be nice. There's a youtube video with a pair of arches over the outboard, but you have to haul the dinghy up and over yourself. I've seen smaller boats on the roof rack too.
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Post by jdinc895 on Jul 13, 2020 3:16:25 GMT
Attachment DeletedZodiac "Cadet". 6'-7" long and weighs only 45lbs. East to get up onto roof from the water. The smallest inflatable I could find. High quality build dinghy with a big price tag but it is a perfect fit for the boat given the circumstances that the outboards present.
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Post by captaintheo on Jul 13, 2020 10:53:20 GMT
View Attachmentodiac "Cadet". 6'-7" long and weighs only 45lbs. East to get up onto roof from the water. The smallest inflatable I could find. High quality build dinghy with a big price tag but it is a perfect fit for the boat given the circumstances that the outboards present. Thank you I just read your answers on the other post 💙 Zodiac seams to rest on your search light...problem turning left right?
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Post by westboating on Mar 9, 2021 3:19:50 GMT
I'm back at the dinghy challenge and I think I'm going for an ACHILLES LSI-260 E with the little EP Carry electric outboard. It's not much power, but with an 895, I can zip around in the mother ship and get to a crowded dock in the dink. All ofthe above gear should fit very well in the aft locker. At 64lbs we might be able to lift it onto the roof as well.
I have two problems to manage, inflating and charging. I have an awesome SUP pump which runs off it's battery (chargeable by 12V or 120 a/c) or clipped onto the battery. It rocks for the SUPs to 15 PSI, but I'm not sure if it has enough juice to inflate an 8.5 ft boat plus keel plus floor. As for charging, the light weigh EP Carry (21lbs) comes with a 120 A/C charger only, so when you're on the hook (the reason we have the dinghy) we'll have to hook up a small inverter to charge from one of our batteries. In the 895 the batteries are way aft, so accessing the bow thruster battery might be the best option.
I'd love to hear about anyone else's story on dinghies and outboard cruisers.
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jgmallo
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Jeanneau Model: Merry Fisher 895
Yacht Name: Trasno
Home Port: Portonovo
Country: Spain
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Post by jgmallo on Mar 9, 2021 13:27:31 GMT
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Post by ihsan on Mar 9, 2021 19:21:11 GMT
View AttachmentZodiac "Cadet". 6'-7" long and weighs only 45lbs. East to get up onto roof from the water. The smallest inflatable I could find. High quality build dinghy with a big price tag but it is a perfect fit for the boat given the circumstances that the outboards present. There is a lighter version of the Zodiac Cadet 200. It is Bombardier AX1 also sold by Zodiac is 15 kg. İt is the same lenght but weighs 5 kilo less. If available one may think of it. Storing the inflated dinghy over the outboards is a solution. The only disadvantage is hindering the back view. Over the roof is the other option. May cause wind resistance. Solar panel etc. may not work properly. Storing the inflated dinghy at the bow of the boat partly over the sundeck head down may be a third solution for 895, if space and angle there permits and it does not hinder the pilots view. I have Zodiac Cadet 200 Aero in the cockpit locker of 795. If it was available I would have gone for AX1, but it was not. Yamaha 2.5 is stored in standing position in the head. Tail and propellor rests inside the lower shelf. No obstruction to users. One size bigger is 230 in cadet and 240 in Bombardier. In this case the dinghy is for 3 persons instead of two.
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jgmallo
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Jeanneau Model: Merry Fisher 895
Yacht Name: Trasno
Home Port: Portonovo
Country: Spain
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Post by jgmallo on Mar 9, 2021 21:44:25 GMT
View AttachmentZodiac "Cadet". 6'-7" long and weighs only 45lbs. East to get up onto roof from the water. The smallest inflatable I could find. High quality build dinghy with a big price tag but it is a perfect fit for the boat given the circumstances that the outboards present. There is a lighter version of the Zodiac Cadet 200. It is Bombardier AX1 also sold by Zodiac is 15 kg. İt is the same lenght but weighs 5 kilo less. If available one may think of it. Storing the inflated dinghy over the outboards is a solution. The only disadvantage is hindering the back view. Over the roof is the other option. May cause wind resistance. Solar panel etc. may not work properly. Storing the inflated dinghy at the bow of the boat head down may be a third solution for 895, if space and angle there permits and it does not hinder the pilots view. I have Zodiac Cadet 200 Aero in the cockpit locker of 795. If it was available I would have gone for AX1, but it was not. Yamaha 2.5 is stored in standing position in the head. Tail and propellor rests inside the lower shelf. No obstruction to users. One size bigger is 230 in cadet and 240 in Bombardier. In this case the dinghy is for 3 persons instead of two. Hello Ihsan, Could you share a pic of how you store the Yamaha 2.5 outboard? Thanks!
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Post by ihsan on Mar 9, 2021 22:59:28 GMT
For the time being I will have to describe it for you. As I mentioned earlier the engine is a Yamaha 2,5 hp, short, 2019. The 795 is year 2020.
There are two storage shelves in the head adjacent to the hull. These extend from the wash basin and wash locker to the panel behind the toilet wall. Place the tail of the engine to the lower storage shelf. The skeg (tail) should touch to the wash basin fiber wall, which is the end of the shelf. The skeg and the propellor rest inside the shelf. And the plexiglass outer edge of the shelf houses the skeg and the propeller exactly, leaving no space for any movement.
Then rest the front part of the engine cowling on the wooden panel behind the toilet, close to the hull. Now the engine is reclining like 25 degrees or so, but in perpendicular position. In this position the engine is stable and under tension both from the head, tail and starboard side hull. It does not move at all.
To prevent any possible movement to the port side, I placed a stainless steel hook to fiber glass and fixed the engine with a rope. Some cartoon piece for protection of the tail base and front of the engine is there also.
This is a working solution tried under rough seas with no problem at all. You can use the toilet, and the wash basin, wash locker, both the storage shelves, including the one which houses the tail of the engine. In addition the back of the toilet which is a relatively large area is still there and you can also make use of it for any purpose. The lid of the toilet does not go back fully, as before because it touches the engine if you open it wide towards the back. But it opens enough to stand upright and causes no problem.
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jgmallo
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Jeanneau Model: Merry Fisher 895
Yacht Name: Trasno
Home Port: Portonovo
Country: Spain
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Post by jgmallo on Mar 11, 2021 11:55:43 GMT
OK, thanks for the detailed explanation!
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ea
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Jeanneau Model: NC 895
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Country: CANADA
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Post by ea on Mar 13, 2021 2:39:17 GMT
NC895. Has anyone installed a Weaver davit system with the quickkit and extended davit heads on the swim platforms?
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Post by westboating on Mar 15, 2021 3:39:30 GMT
There are a number of issues with the weaver davit system on theses boats. The 4" extension is interesting, but likely insufficient to clear the outboards when down and certainly if they were tilted up at all. The other limitation is the starboard davit would have to be mounted in the middle of the swim step.
If you could get the brackets modified to mount vertically on the inside of the swim step with a little more extension, you might make it work. I suspect the clearance would be critical at the extremes of the outboard travel.
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ea
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Post by ea on Mar 15, 2021 4:00:23 GMT
There are a number of issues with the weaver davit system on theses boats. The 4" extension is interesting, but likely insufficient to clear the outboards when down and certainly if they were tilted up at all. The other limitation is the starboard davit would have to be mounted in the middle of the swim step.
If you could get the brackets modified to mount vertically on the inside of the swim step with a little more extension, you might make it work. I suspect the clearance would be critical at the extremes of the outboard travel.
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ea
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Post by ea on Mar 15, 2021 4:08:20 GMT
Thanks for your input. The company says they can make 6” extensions, or even custom ones, as long as they clear the water when the bow is high and stern low. They wanted to know if the swim platforms would be strong enough as the further you go out, the more weight on the platforms. As for the middle of the swim ladder, the extensions in the quickkit can be taken out when there is no dinghy to be carried. Therefore, they will only be mounted when the dinghy is carried on the way. I will look into it more to see what can be done. It is still winter here, I can’t take any real life measurements.
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Post by westboating on Mar 17, 2021 5:07:15 GMT
I do note the swim step is wet sometimes when under way. I'm going to look at how the water moves back there next time I'm out. I'm guessing they are worried about the dinghy dragging when you're going over the bow wave.
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ea
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Post by ea on Mar 17, 2021 11:41:43 GMT
Yes, I believe so. Thank you
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Post by shaodx on Mar 24, 2021 3:22:31 GMT
How about hanging system? St. Croix is also selling different size risers.
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ea
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Post by ea on Mar 24, 2021 15:35:50 GMT
How about hanging system? St. Croix is also selling different size risers. very difficult with the outboards on the nc895.
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Post by shaodx on Mar 24, 2021 15:54:37 GMT
Do you mean it's difficult to install? They can be installed on the swim platform beside the engines and it looks like the hanging dinghy won't block engines.
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ea
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Post by ea on Mar 24, 2021 17:03:57 GMT
Do you mean it's difficult to install? They can be installed on the swim platform beside the engines and it looks like the hanging dinghy won't block engines. they would either have to be about 6 feet(or more) tall to hang the dinghy over the engines or about 6 feet off the boat for the dinghy to clear the engines. Neither seem to be a good solution. And they take up very valuable space, considering they would have to be mounted permanently.
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Post by sanjuan895 on Jul 19, 2022 5:46:16 GMT
[mention]ea[/mention] curious if you ever settled on a solution for your dinghy
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